(L) UQ Holder (Ken Akamatsu's new series)

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Lisemer

Can we just revive Negima sub-forum and re-name it as "Akamamatsuverse Series" or something similar, so we can get this inside and a new thread for discussions about UQ Holder and Negima Connections and Plotholes?

I don't think you can make a subforum based on the same author.

If you could, the Nasuverse should have a subforum before this, but it doesn't.

[Dusk_]

About the whole Konoe lineage speculation...If Negi married Konoka, she would've taken the Springfield name. If Konoka married some other man, she would've taken his family name.

In other words, Touta could only be a Konoe if:

1) She and Setsuna adopted, and that's Touta's father.
2) Konoka had an illegitimate child (Lol).
3) The other Grandfather was the Konoe, and Konoka isn't even part of the direct family tree.

[Myssa Rei]

It doesn't quite work that way. Remember, in Japan, STATUS also has a say on whether or not a surname is retained. If the family of the bride has a higher social status (and the Konoes are pretty high in the totem pole) the groom "marries in" and takes on his wife's surname.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by Dusk_

About the whole Konoe lineage speculation...If Negi married Konoka, she would've taken the Springfield name. If Konoka married some other man, she would've taken his family name.

In Japan men who have a lower social status (poorer) than their wife can take the wife's family name.

Konoka's father himself is an Aoyama who took his wife's name. Its never been established how related he is to Tsuruko and Motoko.

Tsuruko and Motoko took care of Setsuna when Eishun brought her in to the Shinmeiryuu. This was before Motoko ran away to Hinata Inn.

Touta being a swordsman makes sense as he is descended from a clan of samurai exorcists.

Given his failure at magic something tells he'll learn Ki based techniques like Ku's kung fu, Shinmeiryuu style and Urashimaryuu style.

[bludvein]

I think people are really just overthinking the Konoe bit. Konoka may have been the main line, and Touta from a branch. Or maybe Eishun had another kid after Negima ended (I don't think he was too old yet).

Konoka doesn't have to be in his direct line at all.

[Freeter]

The pixiv movement begins...

Spoiler for dat Eva:

[Xellos-_^]

i got to say i really look forward to when Touta finds what Eva really looks like.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Dusk_

About the whole Konoe lineage speculation...If Negi married Konoka, she would've taken the Springfield name. If Konoka married some other man, she would've taken his family name.

In other words, Touta could only be a Konoe if:

1) She and Setsuna adopted, and that's Touta's father.
2) Konoka had an illegitimate child (Lol).
3) The other Grandfather was the Konoe, and Konoka isn't even part of the direct family tree.

Negi could've married into the Konoe family or their children could've taken on the Konoe surname, while Negi kept his own since it has it's own importance, so as to keep the lineage going. It's not an uncommon practice to do. A lot of the time it is mostly just about keeping family lineages going.

Or they had children and used the Springfield name and when one of those children grew up they took on the Konoe name for inheritance purposes. Which also isn't too uncommon to see in important families which focus on having someone to keep the name alive.

[trinitem]

Negi could've married into the Konoe family or their children could've taken on the Konoe surname, while Negi kept his own since it has it's own importance, so as to keep the lineage going. It's not an uncommon practice to do. A lot of the time it is mostly just about keeping family lineages going.

With respect to separate laws for the real world and the negima world, Japan currently doesn't allow keeping different last names after marriage. A few tried through legal action, and ended in failure, around May this year.

Tl;DR Japan doesn't allow married people to have different last names.

[Seitsuki]

And so Eva begins her attempted conquest of the third Springfield! Having learned that mature doesn't work and loli doesn't work, this time she goes for the cool Onee-san approach! Will she finally succeed? It doesn't matter, since she already has my heart ♥

[Dusk_]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

In Japan men who have a lower social status (poorer) than their wife can take the wife's family name.

Konoka's father himself is an Aoyama who took his wife's name. Its never been established how related he is to Tsuruko and Motoko.

Tsuruko and Motoko took care of Setsuna when Eishun brought her in to the Shinmeiryuu. This was before Motoko ran away to Hinata Inn.

Touta being a swordsman makes sense as he is descended from a clan of samurai exorcists.

Given his failure at magic something tells he'll learn Ki based techniques like Ku's kung fu, Shinmeiryuu style and Urashimaryuu style.

Right you are, completely forgot that Eishun took the Konoe name.

[Voceane]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

If you could, the Nasuverse should have a subforum before this, but it doesn't.

I just want to know about this manga so I read this topic. But, sorry for my ignorance, what's Nasuverse?
Is it an eggplant universe? or the generic title for manga with nurses? I don't see Eggplant nor Nurse, so I'm a little lost.

[chaosprophet]

Originally Posted by Voceane

I just want to know about this manga so I read this topic. But, sorry for my ignorance, what's Nasuverse?
Is it an eggplant universe? or the generic title for manga with nurses? I don't see Eggplant nor Nurse, so I'm a little lost.

Nasu is the name of the creator of Tsukihime, Fate/stay Night, between others. Nasuverse = Nasu Universe, because all his stories seems to happen in the same universe/multiverse.

[Gundamx]

Originally Posted by Lisemer

Can we just revive Negima sub-forum and re-name it as "Akamamatsuverse Series" or something similar, so we can get this inside and a new thread for discussions about UQ Holder and Negima Connections and Plotholes?

Doubt it, since other anime in same timeline don't share sub forum
(Steins;Gate, Chaos;Head and Robotics;Notes share same time line but only Steins;Gate have sub forum)

Originally Posted by trinitem

With respect to separate laws for the real world and the negima world, Japan currently doesn't allow keeping different last names after marriage. A few tried through legal action, and ended in failure, around May this year.

Tl;DR Japan doesn't allow married people to have different last names.

Anime not same as real world
fate stay night > Kiritsugu Emiya marry Irisviel von Einzbern
have son name Shirou Emiya and daughter name Illyasviel von Einzbern

[chaosprophet]

Originally Posted by Freeter

The pixiv movement begins...

Spoiler for dat Eva:

Liked that one, and also this one:

Spoiler for dat Eva:

And also on pxiv is an UQ Holder doujin coming! XD With the three lolis show on that character page (not Eva).

[Hiss13]

Originally Posted by Gundamx

Anime not same as real world
fate stay night > Kiritsugu Emiya marry Irisviel von Einzbern
have son name Shirou Emiya and daughter name Illyasviel von Einzbern

You have to realize that those were different circumstances (a whole slew of 'em). Plus, I am pretty sure that they weren't married in Japan but somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Freeter

The pixiv movement begins...

Spoiler for dat Eva:

Ooooh...It finally begins.

[SoloPanda]

Negi could have just not married anyone. I mean he was an enemy of all women when he was 10. He could have gotten worse and have children from 31 different women and Konoka and Setsuna are just two of them. It's be funny if everyone in the group picture was a grand child of negi with different grandmothers.

[Gundamx]

Originally Posted by Hiss13

You have to realize that those were different circumstances (a whole slew of 'em). Plus, I am pretty sure that they weren't married in Japan but somewhere else.




Ooooh...It finally begins.

Different circumstances = anime circumstances = Negi can have that too
+
so what if they marry each other else where?

Example:
Negi can marry Konoka in magi world or human world but he won't change his name since he is a hero in magic world ( too famous + higher state )but didn't give his to child his name so he can have easier life
(Negi hero > son of hero and queen)

Negi could have just not married anyone. I mean he was an enemy of all women when he was 10. He could have gotten worse and have children from 31 different women and Konoka and Setsuna are just two of them. It's be funny if everyone in the group picture was a grand child of negi with different grandmothers.

That will be interesting
after all he is King in mage country so I guess he can have harem?
(he is direct son from previous queen so I think he should have higher priority than Asuna as next heir)

[Krono]

Originally Posted by SoloPanda

Negi could have just not married anyone. I mean he was an enemy of all women when he was 10. He could have gotten worse and have children from 31 different women and Konoka and Setsuna are just two of them. It's be funny if everyone in the group picture was a grand child of negi with different grandmothers.

Or more simply, Konoka and Setsuna got married, wanted a kid but needed a sperm donor, and Negi agreed. And Negi went on to marry someone else.

[Gundamx]

Originally Posted by Krono

Or more simply, Konoka and Setsuna got married, wanted a kid but needed a sperm donor, and Negi agreed. And Negi went on to marry someone else.

it will work if not for Negi know them + good person

Do you believe he will see his own blood child and feel nothing?
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Will that child call him father/grandfather instead Setsuna?
Will Setsuna/Konoka accept that? or will they even tell him about his real father?

or maybe it was one father and 2 mothers family