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View Poll Results: Claymore - Chapter 113 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 11 | 16.42% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 8 | 11.94% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 16 | 23.88% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 17 | 25.37% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 12 | 17.91% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 2 | 2.99% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 1.49% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-06-01, 13:31 | Link #282 | |
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Hmmm This sounds like a very exciting chapter, I wonder if we'll finally get to see these abyssal zombies yet? |
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2011-06-01, 14:20 | Link #283 | |||
The One Eyed King
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Wow... I didn't think anything interesting was going on this thread since the posts where so far apart, and so I didn't bother reading them. Feel bad now that I wasn't there to give rafael1932 back up. It's quite simple Falcor, haters are going to hate and argue for it (consciously or not). While I too personally dislike Priscilla and Teresa is my all time #2 fav manga character I've chosen remain objective here and the only conclusion I was able to draw was that Priscilla was just overtaken by the monster side in those moments, just like she acted without thinking against Isley after he pierced her gut. rafael1932 did a decent job explaining the Clare losing control of her body is proof that Priscilla wasn't in a state to have planned anything either angle but we also do have other examples of Priscilla just acting, even after awakening such as Isley. Hell, she’ll kill someone in a fair fight, or if she thinks they're gonna start a fair fight, or if they bother her, or if it’s over Raki, or if she's gettin guts; mostly only when she's gettin guts. But plotting to play dirty before she awakens, when does that get fun? Quote:
Anyways I hope this chapter comes out soon... I need new chapter to unwind to. Even if Raki is as stated in it
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2011-06-01, 14:47 | Link #284 | |
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*ahem* I sense this time Rakis truly gonna end up DEAD
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2011-06-01, 14:58 | Link #289 |
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the play statue trick is an interesting question. It depends if it is a "normal" batch of feeders or a "claymore-rebellion-failsafe-feeder-batch"...
ah ...that's to say, if they are the remnants of those used against Isley or Riful they ought to go for their scent only and "freezing" might work. However, if the org was cautious, and kept an "extra" batch of feeders locked away (those BIG HEAVY doors ...) and those "special" feeders were actually fed Claymore flesh and blood ... than they would go for the Claymores aggressively, standstill or not ... even worse, theoretically if even a small remnant of one of the Ghosts was collected - these feeders might go specifically for half-awakend Claymores ...
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2011-06-01, 15:19 | Link #291 |
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So easy priscilla will not get away with it.
I say it was priscilla's human side which did not want to die attacking theresa. 1. She recognised that theresa powered down and was off guard. Why didn't she attack theresa when she still had yellow eyes and was powered up? Was that only coincidence? That isn't some reflex or swing of sword like clare did in rabona. This is deductive thinking. 2. She grabbed the sword actively. 3. she disarmed theresa by dismembering her (again not blindly swinging at her but targeting her arms. There is an idea/reason behind her action) 4. she got up on her feed ran to the helpless theresa and beheaded her so that she never ever could trouble her again. She was out for the kill why else the beheading. Why not run her claymore through theresa. Even splitting her in half like denve a strong warrior like theresa could have perhaps somehow survived. No, i think priscilla wanted to make sure that irene someday could say: "There is no warrior alive who could kill priscilla." It is true that clare for a moment swung her claymore at raki but this was one swing and she had her sword already in her hands not a chain of relatively complex actions like in priscilla's case. In pieta Clare's "arms" moved on its own like those of doc ock in spiderman. Like doc ock she needed all her strength to make them stop. Priscilla murdered theresa as a human, not as a monster. She wanted to live at all costs in the end and ignored theresa's warning before driven by her injured pride and her brainwashed mindset. That's the way i see it. I think she planed steps 1 - 4 at a time point chronologically before step one.
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2011-06-01, 15:37 | Link #292 | |
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The town where Copernicus was born.
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@Ryus, rafael1932 and Falcor
I would not want to discuss it again so let me sum it up: from trying to kill Teresa Priscilla went to killing Teresa. Even assuming that she was overtaken by youma, as a human she wanted to kill Teresa at all costs. IMO it would be too convenient for her to weep as a Claymore tell Teresa to kill her and shortly after, at the exactly right time youma would take over and use it to its advantage. She was already over her limit when she said that and we haven't seen any change until after she killed Teresa so I'm pretty sure it was all an act and it wasn't youma that was talking then. In all cases we know, Claymore who wasn't awakened could restrain himself. By definition Claymore who went over his limit but did not awaken was still a Claymore and was still fighting with youma inside. With Clare it was a bit different but she was partially awakened then and all her limbs were weapons that seemed to have own consciousness. In Priscilla's case she needed a claymore to do that. Besides, Clare still managed to warn everyone that she doesn't have control over her body anymore. When Clare went over her limit for the first time she has almost killed Raki but she could restrain herself. Priscilla couldn't do it because in the end she wanted Teresa dead as much as a youma inside her. So even assuming youma took over earlier she's still guilty of not trying to stop it or warn Teresa and she's still guilty of trying to kill Teresa at all costs. Priscilla was the one who let the youma take over in order to kill Teresa or she was fully conscious then and wanted to kill Teresa. Either way it's bad, "lesser evil" at best. Quote:
You're right :D. Edit: Well said irvinethearcher. I completely agree. |
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2011-06-01, 15:46 | Link #293 |
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: In a hole, I just need to dig myself out
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......Maaaaaan.....I can't believe we went the entire month without realizing till now that the poll is for Chapter 113
Not even gonna say a word on the Priscilla awakening thing - I'm not a fan of "I told you so's" . I am more interested in that Raki is getting some more screentime this chapter -- the fighting though makes me wonder if Yagi has made up his mind whether he's gonna get powered-up or not because the back and forth is starting to annoy me.
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2011-06-01, 16:10 | Link #296 |
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Yes ITA with irvinethearcher. From what ive seen with Claymores awakening I came to the conclusion that the degree of control an AB has over his/her actions is solely based on their mental state. Usually if a claymore is really focused or has a really strong emotional drive towards a certain goal they will remain in almost full cognitive control
eg. Clare: needing to kill Rigaldo to save Miria et al.Clare only lost control after she acheived her goal. Priscilla's need to defeat Teresa was not just for the job, it was deeply rooted in her personal moral code and belief that Justice must triumph over evil. She became desperate and was willing to do whatever it takes, that was Priscilla's emotions in control not the monsters IMO.
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2011-06-01, 16:15 | Link #297 | |
The One Eyed King
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Work was done by number551. Must warn you huge Priscilla = HUGE Image . EDIT:@irvinethearcher, Gooral, and Mighty_frog... Your theory really explains why Priscilla was still crying after killing Teresa. Oh wait... it doesn't Clare herself said it was the monster that killed Teresa, not Priscilla... choice of wording is very important. That was Yagi's way of saying what really happened, just like Deneve explaining why Clare reverted after trying to awake vs Priscilla; or Riful explaining the merger of Luciela and Raphaela that she didn't witness and admitted she was just speculating on.
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