(L) Tari Tari

[DragoonKain3]

I personally couldn't wait to watch new episodes of HSI every chance I got. And at least from my perspective, one must have been drinking gallons of Okada Mari Haterade in order to not enjoy it.

Tari Tari on the other hand? While no means a bad show (I rate it something like 4th or 5th best show this summer season), it lacks the edge, oomph, and impact of HSI. I just don't have the urge to watch it immediately like I did HSI. :shrug:

[Utsuro no Hako]

You have to give Okada this -- HanaIro has been over for almost a year and it's still generating more discussion than some shows that are currently airing. Madoka doesn't come up in conversations this often.

Now, back on topic. I feel so bad for poor Wakana. How can anyone be so blind to the overwhelming awesomeness that is Wien?

Oh, and she seems to attract death flags like a dog turd attracts flies.

[Reckoner]

That's because infamy lasts longer than fame, and infamy is not a good thing .

[deadite]

I personally can't wait for the movie...

[Vena]

Originally Posted by Utsuro no Hako

You have to give Okada this -- HanaIro has been over for almost a year and it's still generating more discussion than some shows that are currently airing. Madoka doesn't come up in conversations this often.

In the context of itself, HSI hasn't generated that much discussion long-term post its completion. Its being discussed here on the basis of comparison that it was the most recent, similar work from PA with a key difference coming down to the writer. We'd discuss other shows if there were a basis for it (such as K-On's art style in Kokoro Connect) but in recent times, HanaIro (and AnoHana, which has also been mentioned... and again has the same writer) is the closest on many levels (except episode count).

Originally Posted by Utsuro no Hako

Now, back on topic. I feel so bad for poor Wakana. How can anyone be so blind to the overwhelming awesomeness that is Wien?

Oh, and she seems to attract death flags like a dog turd attracts flies.

Most everyone is blind to Wien right now.

Death flags in Tari Tari!?

[Utsuro no Hako]

Originally Posted by Vena

In the context of itself, HSI hasn't generated that much discussion long-term post its completion. Its being discussed here on the basis of comparison that it was the most recent, similar work from PA with a key difference coming down to the writer.

But this thread is hardly an isolated incident. Any time a discussion takes a turn towards Okada Rage, it inevitably devolves into an argument about whether or not HSI is an example of what's wrong with her.

We'd discuss other shows if there were a basis for it (such as K-On's art style in Kokoro Connect) but in recent times, HanaIro (and AnoHana, which has also been mentioned... and again has the same writer) is the closest on many levels (except episode count).

There are as many similarities to Chihayafuru (girl ropes classmates into starting a club so they can take part in a non-athletic competition) and Ano Natsu (group of friends undertake a project together, dramatic revelations slowly build up to something resembling a plot).

Death flags in Tari Tari!?

Her mother, obviously, was surrounded by them in the flashback, while her cat got one in the present -- which is good since it takes the death flags away from Father Going To Perform Outdoor Labor While A Big Storm Is Coming.

[relentlessflame]

I just want to ask that we please try to keep this thread on-topic, as there are people who are watching this show who never even watched Hanasaku Iroha, and the spoiler policy requires that all comparisons of a show to other works require properly-labelled spoiler tags (and the comparisons are only permitted when they are relevant and on-topic). If people really want to discuss the studio's works, or the other show's writer, I believe there are threads in the General Anime section for both.

[Gohan78]

Originally Posted by Vena

Most everyone is blind to Wien right now.

Well, I think that Wien is a fun character to have around for comedic purposes but to be honest he lacks depth (as of episode 5). He just seems to go around with everything that his friends do, never expressing an opinion or a desire of his own.
But I want to be optimistic and believe that he will get proper exposition in future episodes.

[Liddo-kun]

Episode 5:

Spoiler:

Wakana seems really down. I think she should have attended the club celebration. The others could have cheered her up. Or maybe, Wakana is the type who keeps problems to herself?

Her cat missing too..

[deadite]

I knew that something was up with Wakana from the very beginning. She is a generally pleasant character who avoids getting into things way too easily. Also her making a big fuss about Konatsu's desire to start a club and still helping her as "unofficial member" shows that deep inside she still wants to sing and by not letting Konatsu's dream die, she's doesn't want to let go of the thing her mother love. I have a feeling that Konatsu and Wakana were very much like Miharu and the Vice Principal in their younger days.

[Arturia Polaris]

Well I'm really enjoying this series. It just got exponentially better.

Also, dem buttslaps.

What I like is how P.A. Works can make awesome OPs like HanaIro and Tari Tari now.

Sawa's VA normally plays yandere flat chested girls... it's a nice change :P

AAAAAND YES. Dorama. I love seeing stuff like this.

Cheers
Arturia

EDIT: I swear, Konatsu is going to be such a yuri and fetish magnet later on...

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by Arturia Polaris

...Sawa's VA normally plays yandere flat chested girls....

Really? You mean like Saki in Eden of the East, Ikaros in Sora no Otoshimono, Wako in Stardriver, or Musubi in Sekirei? I think Hayami Saori tends to play soft-spoken innocents. But anyway, I think she's great here, too, as she graduates to playing shikkari upper-crust young ladies (which is what she is herself, I believe).

[Arturia Polaris]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Really? You mean like Saki in Eden of the East, Ikaros in Sora no Otoshimono, Wako in Stardriver, or Musubi in Sekirei? I think Hayami Saori tends to play soft-spoken innocents. But anyway, I think she's great here, too, as she graduates to playing shikkari upper-crust young ladies (which is what she is herself, I believe).

Her latest roles are Aragaki Ayase, Haqua, Chiriko Tsuruma (Oreimo, TWGOK, AnoHana)

That's what I'm referring to. Tsun tsun or Yandere flat chested girls.

I'm not really sure about her other works but I have her pinned to those 3 names.

Cheers;
Arturia

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by Arturia Polaris

Her latest roles are Aragaki Ayase, Haqua, Chiriko Tsuruma (Oreimo, TWGOK, AnoHana). That's what I'm referring to. Tsun tsun or Yandere flat chested girls. I'm not really sure about her other works but I have her pinned to those 3 names. Cheers; Arturia

And here I thought I was a big fan of hers. Haven't watched much of those first two shows. I will now. Thanks.


Edit:
Live singing performance Sunday at Wonderfest by Hayami Saori (Sawa, left) and Seto Asami (Konatsu, right):

NicoNico

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18479806

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One commenter says he got goosebumps. I did, too, particularly when Hayamin started singing. As I've said before, I think she has one of the most purely "beautiful" voices in the world. Other comments mention some quavering, and also legs....

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[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by InfiniteDistance

Even though I prefer this to not have any romance at all, I agree that at this point romance is probably the only thing that can make the male cast more relevant. Honestly though, at this point it seems a bit late. The only kind of 'chemistry' we've seen so far is probably Sawa and Tachi this episode, and it felt a bit forced. I'm also guessing that the badminton part has served () it's purpose now.

As for Wakana's drama, I thought that was handled pretty nicely and I do believe she's a worthy lead. I may be slightly partial though, having lost my mother as well and knowing how that clusterfuck of emotions can be a pretty hefty load.

As for Wien, how did he steal all your hearts? I find him pretty annoying, regardless of screentime..

There's no question that of the three school life shows airing on summer weekends, Tari Tari tacks closest to formula. What makes it interesting to me is that it's incredibly generic superficially, but so far manages to feel fresh and interesting most of the time. It's just quirky and ironic enough to make it work.

When you see decisions like who the narrative focuses on and who is sacrificed, TT tends to take the conventional route more often than not, because structurally it's a conventional show. That seems to limit just how good it can really be, because fundamentally it's trying to do generic things in a pleasing way (and generally succeeding) rather than try to do anything really original.

[kk2extreme]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Edit:
Live singing performance Sunday at Wonderfest by Hayami Saori (Sawa, left) and Seto Asami (Konatsu, right):

NicoNico

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18479806

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One commenter says he got goosebumps. I did, too, particularly when Hayamin started singing. As I've said before, I think she has one of the most purely "beautiful" voices in the world. Other comments mention some quavering, and also legs....

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waiting for OST

[Kirito]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

And here I thought I was a big fan of hers. Haven't watched much of those first two shows. I will now. Thanks.


Edit:
Live singing performance Sunday at Wonderfest by Hayami Saori (Sawa, left) and Seto Asami (Konatsu, right):

NicoNico

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18479806

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One commenter says he got goosebumps. I did, too, particularly when Hayamin started singing. As I've said before, I think she has one of the most purely "beautiful" voices in the world. Other comments mention some quavering, and also legs....

To get rid of the streams of comments, click the three dots in the balloon at the lower right.

I really hope they do a "Reflectia" tribute like in episode 1 with that choir, that still continues to give the chills every time I hear it. Thanks for sharing, these two seiyuu's are amazing, as always!

[SRanger]

just picked this up series, thinking it might be some K-On clone, but i was gladly disappointed.

Wakana is adorable..her suffering is very touching. I'm so glad I picked this up and gave it a shot, because I wouldn't have found this gem.

[deadite]

Wakana was angry at her mom that she was messing around instead of teaching her that piano piece. I think Wakana loves music in the same way Vice Principal loves music. It pretty obvious as well that Vice Principal Loves music to a point that she is a perfectionist. You don't need to be all smiles like Konatsu and Miharu to show you love music.

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

There's no question that of the three school life shows airing on summer weekends, Tari Tari tacks closest to formula. What makes it interesting to me is that it's incredibly generic superficially, but so far manages to feel fresh and interesting most of the time. It's just quirky and ironic enough to make it work.

When you see decisions like who the narrative focuses on and who is sacrificed, TT tends to take the conventional route more often than not, because structurally it's a conventional show. That seems to limit just how good it can really be, because fundamentally it's trying to do generic things in a pleasing way (and generally succeeding) rather than try to do anything really original.

not to rag on you or anything Enzo but what is your beef with not being original? It think execution and direction of a piece are way better than originality. Don't you like reading books or watching shows about people doing mundane things? Ideas much less original ideas are a dime a dozen. What's the point of being original if you can't execute it well it write it well?

I'll give Tari Tari originality in not often used concept of a main character who doesn't take center stage.

[Guardian Enzo]

I don't have a "beef" with unoriginal shows. My point is that because TT is basically a formula show, it tends to make decisions that conform to formula. It doesn't do much that's really surprising or bold - it tries to do what's already been done in an enjoyable way. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, but I'd argue that some of the concerns viewers have expressed with the show (like the depiction of the male characters) are a direct result of this general tendency to tread the well-trodden path.