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The hair isn't Suzaku's but the expression somehow just fits him. |
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2007-08-19, 22:36 | Link #1087 |
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By the way in episode 24, how can Viletta survive the thug attack from episode 23? (from ougi's house till a elevens breaks in and kill villetta)
1.What is Viletta going to do next in the season 2? Rejoin Britannia and get someone's a bounty hunter and Zero's identity will finally exposed to public even some ashford students too! 2.Imagine Code Geass is spiderman 3. Lelouch is peter parker but comes a revenge for his uncle, Ben parker. Suzaku is Harry osborn but comes a revenge to his friend, Peter for what he did last time. (spiderman kills green goblin(Harry's Father, Norman Osborn) |
2007-08-19, 22:43 | Link #1088 | |
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* i wont tell them who is zero cuz it would draw more people.* she want to capture zero so she can get promoted to a higher rank |
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2007-08-21, 19:42 | Link #1091 | |||
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Since I didn't want to clutter the "Overall Impressions" thread. We moved this discussion between wingdarkness and me that started on page 5, here.
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Zero, he has an agenda that only a few people know about. He isn't supported by his own flesh and blood. He is supported by "foreign" people that he just picked up, and they just picked him as their leader. As a traditional leader, Zero sucks. But he isn't a traditional leader because he was instantly brought up into a position of power, unlike other leaders who have worked for their position. Quote:
But, the whole point of that was to say that his actions to save his sister aren't selfish and actually practical. Because Nunully is his reason for fighting. Just as the Independence of the US was the reason for Washington to fight. Quote:
As a human being, which Zero still is, emotions cloud judgment. It's something that happens quite a lot of times. Therefore, if someone very precious to you was kidnapped. Wouldn't you instantly go find that person despite the circumstances? To continue, are you that cold? You criticize him for his actions there, but are you that different that you would do something different? Imagine the emotions that are coursing through Zero's mind. Can you make a sound, logical decision with those emotions that overwhelm you? (Note: I'm viewing you, as a watcher. Not from the perspective of those in the field. Just a watcher of the show that is criticizing.) |
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He did NOTHING! How cold is he to sell out an entire society based on the principles inwhich his sis was the inspiration? Heck yeah better IS better, because "something better" is the difference between night and day if "better" means giving those guys a fighting chance as opposed to basically no chance...Lulu is too smart not to have any contingencies planned...He simply snapped once his sister was taken and he lost all association with the plan he created because of his sister...That's not good leadership at all...He took on the mantle of Zero, he should own up to it... Quote:
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2007-08-22, 13:05 | Link #1094 | |
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Chudley - When you make a pact with people to fight toward a certain goal together you just can't turn your back on them when it becomes inconvenient and call yourself the leader of a rebellion...Simple as that...And to do this at the most critical "win-lose" juncture of the battle, it's just not defensible...
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2007-08-22, 20:56 | Link #1095 | ||
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2007-08-23, 00:00 | Link #1097 | |
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My point here is that for Euphemia, Cornelia would be willing to go to extremes. Just like how Lelouch had no qualms abandoning the OoBK for Nunally. Remember how Cornelia sacrificed all her air troops just to lure Zero in (so that she can personally exact revenge on him)? I'm sure that if Cornelia was in Lelouch's shoes and Euphemia was the one abducted, she'll do exactly what Lelouch did. |
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2007-08-23, 00:16 | Link #1098 | ||
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Moreover, the point of being a leader is to prepare for different possible outcomes, and that's something Lelouch certainly didn't do in not nurturing subordinates. Just because that hadn't bit him in the butt yet hardly excuses such a serious lapse. As a historical note, just about all renowned leaders also managed to surround themselves with excellent subordinates. Quote:
Besides, my argument is that Nunally is far more than Lelouch's source of weakness; she's largely his source of inspiration as well. In classical terms, she'd be his muse.
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2007-08-23, 01:12 | Link #1099 | ||
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Regarding your 2nd point, the reason why the OoBK are in complete disarray is due to two unforseen circumstances. 1)Nunally's abduction puts Zero out of the picture. 2)Ougi(vice-commander), who could have taken over Zero, was shot at the command post, thus putting him out of the picture as well, hence why the OoBk are in deep sh*t. Who says Zero doesnt have excellent subordinates? Todo and Kallen are extremely capable fighters, Diethard handles tasks efficiently and provides valuable information to Zero, Ougi serves as his vice-commander. 1 major difference between renowned leaders and Zero is that the former truly fights for their country while the latter fights instead for a loved one, hence why renowned leaders nurture successors while Zero pretty much does things his own way. Quote:
I do agree with you that Nunally is largely Zero's source of inspiration as well as his weakness. Last edited by Chudley; 2007-08-23 at 01:58. |
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