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Old 2009-03-11, 15:39   Link #101
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Yeah. Grahard was a former Heavens Blade and was defeated by Layfon and lost his position as Heavens blade and tried to get the position back from Layfon by blackmailing him.
I'm not sure how you ended up with this conclusion but Garhald was never a Tenken to begin with.But his older brother Savaris is indeed a Tenken.

Full list of Tenken current member can be found in here.Their members (as in the one listed on the list) never changed ever since Layfon joined it when he was still a small kid...and the number of Tenken members were always 12,which means that the Queen itself is not a Tenken.

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Old 2009-03-11, 16:29   Link #102
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I'm not sure how you ended up with this conclusion but Garhald was never a Tenken to begin with.But his older brother Savaris is indeed a Tenken.

Full list of Tenken current member can be found in here.Their members (as in the one listed on the list) never changed ever since Layfon joined it when he was still a small kid...and the number of Tenken members were always 12,which means that the Queen itself is not a Tenken.
I made one mistake, Layfon fought Garhald for the position for Heavens blade but neither of them were Heavens blade.

And Layfon defeated him when he was only a kid so the grudge came from there.
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Old 2009-03-11, 16:54   Link #103
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I made one mistake, Layfon fought Garhald for the position for Heavens blade but neither of them were Heavens blade.

And Layfon defeated him when he was only a kid so the grudge came from there.

we don't know if Garhard and Layfon had before. The match in the flashback was actually when Layfon was defending his title and was already a HB.
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Old 2009-03-11, 16:58   Link #104
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In the first episode,we saw Layfon when he was still a small kid,but already became a member of the Tenken.As a proof of him being a Tenken,the Queen gave him 2 things...first was the Sky Sword (the one he used in episode 1),and secondly the Tenken title Volfstein (I'm not sure where i read this but literally itmeans a Swordsman).

When he fought against Garhald (as shown in episode 9),he wielded the Sky Sword with him,and also when the match ends,the announcer mentioned his name as "Layfon Volfstein Alseif".This means that even before he fought against Garhald,the Tenken title was already belong to him..he didn't even need to fight against Garhald to obtain the title,coz he already became a Tenken few years before the match between him and Garhald even started.

Beside it doesn't make any sense isn't it if he was expelled by the Queen becoz of the incident of him chopping Garhald's hand IF he was not a Tenken.


EDIT - Ah swt i mistook Garhald with Gorneo....gomen >"<

EDIT2 - To add to the post above...well we don't actually know the past history between Garharld and Layfon before Layfon was accepted into the Tenken.But i think Garhald's grudge towards Layfon was not about the Tenken title...probably something else.Unless someone can show me any line from the novel itself that Garhald and Layfon did fight before for the Tenken title.

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Old 2009-03-12, 07:04   Link #105
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btw can some tell who "Dixerio Maskane" is ?? the one who saved Nina & Zereni spirit from fox-masked guys....
Is he acquaintance of Layfon, enemy, ally ??? simply who he is and what are his intentions ^^
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btw. will that queen appear in Zerenii too.... im not talking about the beggining.... but let's say current last volume 11 ?? (or earlier)
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Can someone tell me what's up with that yellow deer spirit (mostly from that city Gandwelia) will it disapear, stay in the city or tag along with Layfon ?
Sorry for the late reply, been busy for the past week.. haven't even watched the latest episodes yet arrrgghh.
I don't have a detailed answer to your first two questions though, haven't read that far. I hope someone with more novel knowledge can shed some light on those two.

Spoiler for Dix:


Spoiler for grendan & zuellni:


Spoiler for golden goat:



EDIT:
Garhald? A Tenken??

I went back and read some of the passages about him... it only mentioned that he's under the same master as Gorneo.
When asked about his grudge against Layfon he just says "I can't accept the fact that a llittle kid like him can become a Tenken. He's even younger than you (Savaris). "
Which is bullshit. I think he's just pure jealous and couldn't let go of the opportunity to be a Tenken.

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Old 2009-03-13, 11:19   Link #106
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Sorry for the late reply, been busy for the past week.. haven't even watched the latest episodes yet arrrgghh.
I don't have a detailed answer to your first two questions though, haven't read that far. I hope someone with more novel knowledge can shed some light on those two.

Spoiler for Dix:


Spoiler for grendan & zuellni:


Spoiler for golden goat:



EDIT:
Garhald? A Tenken??

I went back and read some of the passages about him... it only mentioned that he's under the same master as Gorneo.
When asked about his grudge against Layfon he just says "I can't accept the fact that a llittle kid like him can become a Tenken. He's even younger than you (Savaris). "
Which is bullshit. I think he's just pure jealous and couldn't let go of the opportunity to be a Tenken.
the goat made a good choice with layfon. with Layfon's strength, Stamina and his harem gathering abilities he can repopulate city in no time.
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Old 2009-03-13, 12:16   Link #107
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Well you do know that Goat in some culture symbolizes womanizers.

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I went back and read some of the passages about him... it only mentioned that he's under the same master as Gorneo.
When asked about his grudge against Layfon he just says "I can't accept the fact that a llittle kid like him can become a Tenken. He's even younger than you (Savaris). "
Which is bullshit. I think he's just pure jealous and couldn't let go of the opportunity to be a Tenke
Nah, when I see some punk doing better than me I would be pissed off too. Pride and jealousy, I guess you can say both.

Just a Question though: how many Volume is there for the novel? And how current is the Chinese scan? Since this is kind of the novel topic already.
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Old 2009-03-13, 12:37   Link #108
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Just a Question though: how many Volume is there for the novel?
11 for now; for the 12 vol. still 7 days
Then there are those of Legend of Regios, the prequel story of the Regios' world, and The Regios Crusade that begin on 19 of this month, where there is the story of Dixerio.
This is all i think
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Old 2009-03-13, 12:39   Link #109
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Well you do know that Goat in some culture symbolizes womanizers.



Nah, when I see some punk doing better than me I would be pissed off too. Pride and jealousy, I guess you can say both.

Just a Question though: how many Volume is there for the novel? And how current is the Chinese scan? Since this is kind of the novel topic already.
currently i see the missing mail manga up to chpt11 and the novel upto vol6.
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Old 2009-03-13, 13:08   Link #110
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For the Chinese translations:
vol.6 is almost complete, translation of vol.7 has begun.
Vol. 11, which consists of 3 short stories, has been translated also.
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Old 2009-03-13, 14:13   Link #111
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On that note, are any of the light novels translated into English yet?
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Old 2009-03-14, 20:35   Link #112
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Oww, that's to bad. I thought the golden goat will help out Layfon in future, they look like a good couple.
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Old 2009-03-14, 22:06   Link #113
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On that note, are any of the light novels translated into English yet?
Not yet. A lot of the translators over at Baka-Tsuki were too occupied with other stuffs...
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They picked 26 projects and none of them was finished
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Old 2009-03-14, 22:26   Link #116
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Well, for the novel of Regios can be translated, we must wait for a long time XD
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Old 2009-03-15, 19:29   Link #117
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Volume 11 was a LOL-filled book. Leerin facial expressions FTW! (Check 4th page, 1st post of Image thread for the Leerin pics)
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Old 2009-03-19, 20:25   Link #118
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I want to ask someone who read the novels couple of questions.

Who is Savaris to Layfon? Why he is using golden wires just like Layfon?

Also, what is Sevaris' relationship with Layfon - does he like him and is Sevaris kind of good/nice kind of sarcastic guy - or one of these psychopatic charismatic handsome bishounen who obsess over their younger partners (aka Black Cat Train/Creed).

finally, is there any connection between Layfon and strange behaviour by City fairies, I mean once he arrives the Zuellni starts moving toward filth monster and abandoned towns kind of a like Grendan. Just strange coincidence?
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I want to ask someone who read the novels couple of questions.

Who is Savaris to Layfon? Why he is using golden wires just like Layfon?

Also, what is Sevaris' relationship with Layfon - does he like him and is Sevaris kind of good/nice kind of sarcastic guy - or one of these psychopatic charismatic handsome bishounen who obsess over their younger partners (aka Black Cat Train/Creed).

finally, is there any connection between Layfon and strange behaviour by City fairies, I mean once he arrives the Zuellni starts moving toward filth monster and abandoned towns kind of a like Grendan. Just strange coincidence?
God knows what Savaris thinks and who he likes, well only things I know about him are, that he hates weak people and he is all the times cheerful and has never displayed any hatred for anything except Filth monsters.

Also about the deal with Layfon and faries and strange incidents that have happen ever since he came along. Well wether its coincidence or not, still doesnt change the fact that it had too happen since its an fantasy (novel, anime, manga) and it has to have alot of diffrent activitys and stuff, not the same one over and over, that would be boring.
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Old 2009-03-20, 03:21   Link #120
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Why he is using golden wires just like Layfon?
Savaris is not useing those wiress...... Savaris is hand to hand combat specialist (fighting with golden guntlets)

Lincent that old dude with dark green hairs is the wire specialist ^^

Savaris and Lincent are acting kinda like partners.... and so Savaris is useing Lincents wires to fight (but he cant make them)

Lafon was the one who was learning other HB skills (cloneing.... wires.... maybe that sound attack from mouth in ep10 of anime)


Anyway when does the vol12 come out ?? since im currious what is going to happen there....
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