2009-06-08, 02:08 | Link #901 | |
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on 1 side u have Teresa. rank 1 status. know to be the most powerful #1 up to her time and so on. on the other side u ahve a nub. a naive fresh of boot camp who just enter the rank. after 12 round, it wasnt jsut a win by point but it was a upset TKO. i'm not saying it to be off topic. it just stupid to see every1 sayign how teresa was league apart from Prisy ans so on when comparing clare to them. they all seem to forget that Prisy was the one who took teresa head and not the other way around. |
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2009-06-08, 02:11 | Link #902 | |
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2009-06-08, 02:17 | Link #903 | |
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Dunames, that was retarded. Also, spelling and grammar are important things. USE THEM. Everyone else, follow the simple rule: Do not feed the trolls. This discussion is dead and over with.
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Remember: Rafaela said that if you die in this world, your body in the real world will become just a corpse. Since Clare killed Rafaela, it stands to reason that as soon as this youki is done gushing out, what will remain will be just a corpse. |
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2009-06-08, 02:29 | Link #905 | |
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in a situation were both side show no mercy. Prisy would still behead Teresa. Teresa cant escape death. when the fight start and Teresa jump out. If Prisy didnt show mercy and let Teresa go, Prisy could have chop Teresa into a million pieces and Teresa would ahve gone to hell without knowign what hit her. Teresa strong point is her ability to sense yoki. its so good that she can sense every drop of yoki in teh body to the point where she can follow those yoki flow and predict that fighter every movement. Teresa was so good at it but she fail to sense Prisy. Prisy ability to hide her yoki was just a step above teresa rendering Prisy invisible to Teresa. if Prisy was a ruthless fighter liek hwo every1 said teresa should ahve being, then teh fight would ahve ended b4 teresa could even take a glance at Prisy. both side show mercy and underestatmated their oppn walking on that paper thin line between life and death. Prisy just have superior ballance while teresa slip and got her head cut off clean. |
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2009-06-08, 02:33 | Link #906 | |
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2009-06-08, 02:35 | Link #907 |
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I view pawn as when you easily defeat someone. Like no sweat. Priscilla had a hard time fighting Teresa. She had to cut off Teresa's hands first to leave her head unguarded. I think I cried with Clare the first time I watched the scene
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2009-06-08, 02:40 | Link #908 | |
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2009-06-08, 02:54 | Link #909 | |
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u may think what i said is retard but thats ur opinion and it ur alone and it still dont change that fact that Prisy beheaded Teresa. i'm not saying it to be offtopic, just want to tell the posters fo the past 2 pages of people who keep on forgetting that inportant part of when Prisy behead Teresa and still believe that Teresa would wipe the floor of Prisy when it was Prisy who behead Teresa. PS: USE THEM...all cap meaning ur yelling or something to that exptend. shouldnt it be somethign like "USE THEM!" and not "USE THEM." USE THEM URSELF! |
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2009-06-08, 02:54 | Link #910 | |
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2009-06-08, 03:05 | Link #911 |
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dunames, I would like to let you know that this is as far as I bothered to read into your post. I got a little further into the previous one, but as Stream said above, you need to work on your spelling and grammar.
Above all though, that obnoxious abbreviation just makes you come across like an idiot. To all of you who insist on saving a handful of characters in this way, you should know that there are a lot of people out there who won't even bother to read it. |
2009-06-08, 03:08 | Link #912 |
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just wanted to say that, we are totally going off topic just talking about Dunames posts and grammar. and try not to say that people won't be bothered to read the posts, it's not like everyone would read every other person's post.
Dunames, don't take it too hard. O: ok, this silly grammar thing ends here |
2009-06-08, 03:16 | Link #913 | |
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Oh and we have a thread for Teresa vs Priscilla. Go use it, and stop derailing the thread. Thanks.
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2009-06-08, 05:00 | Link #914 |
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Even if Raph is dead,Raciela isn't a corpse 'cause she has a different consciousness.
....and Priscilla stronger than Teresa?hahahahahah!I can't belive there are people so blind.....during the fight Priscilla's 70-80% yoki was destroyed by just a little of Teresa's yoki.... |
2009-06-08, 06:58 | Link #915 |
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i really really didn't want to get into this but with a little bit of more seasoning like... three years? prissy would've had a shot but she still would have lost in the 9th or 10th round. but prissy had huge potential and had to waste it by awakening too early. u.u
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2009-06-08, 07:16 | Link #916 |
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~Ah hum!
Why do you guys say the semi interesting stuff when i'm not around? Except the whole tired Teresa vs Priscilla debate, which HAS IT'S OWN THREAD NOW!
Anyway to answer Arturro's question some pages back, the simplest reason for a split in opinion, based on demographics, is probably just pure exposure to modern shounen cliches/tropes/aesops etc. All you've gotta do is realise the whole DBZ influence on everything and it becomes tedious, i prefer intracate storylines(not monster of the week), character development (not power development), and that feeling that what i just spent my time doing wasn't a waste of time or brain cells. (i can go get drunk and headbutt a wall if i want that feeling of wasted time and brain death) Anyhow to go back to what i thought was happening i should probably have mentioned Raphealla's motivation. Raphealla's single driving motivation was to complete her job. Rubul even spells it out, to kill Luciella (the awakened), the correction of her mistake and her reason for living. However there is more to it. Raphealla is also still 'faithfully' suppressing her aura which was part of her job, and not regenerating as atonement. So why would she be worried about the clash between abyssals and the probability that Luciella might die? 1. Luciella may die (love, concern?) 2. Desire to kill Luciella (hate/ reason d'etre) 3. Suppressed yoma aura (faithful to role/training) Putting it all together Raphealla wanted to kill the awakened monster (correction of the mistake) and save her sister (complete the role she was trained for in the soul link). The suppressed aura (faithfullness) was a pre-requisite of her role as the holder of the spirit in the soul link. For god knows how many years she didn't use yoki not because of an aesthetic choice, but because a)she didn't need it and b) she was unable to because she was holding Luciella's spirit. Which is why she couldn't regenerate her wounded eye. Where this all breaks down is 'why' Raphealla herself dies. Which i think is a matter of balance. Having killed her sister she sacrifices her own yoki and emotions to rebuild the life that was taken. The merged body and consciuosness is a result. Clare however stirs up what was left. It's even mentioned by Raphealla that she is but a memory/construct. Raphealla was already dead/dying, as was Luciella. The reborn Luciella will gain life, but chances are she won't be an awakened. (Clare was able to revert Jean's body, and so on, but it still required the human consciuosness, which conveniently Raphealla had been carrying) The Luciella is likely to be the Luciella that engaged in the soul link with her sister, the memory exactly as it was at that time, a young and idealistic claymore. (perhaps with elements of degradation due to Raphealla's having held the spirit for so long). But between the moment that Raphealla engaged in the soul link and the moment she died 'killing/saving' her sister, Raphealla built up a lifetime of experience and memories, that she can't share with her sister, if she was to be restored as she remembers her. That great outporing of yoki is also the power Raphealla acquired over all those years... (remember the comment in the dream about you've had seven years?). It is basically the Raphealla that Clare encountered. No wonder it's all that Raphealla has, because it is all that can not be shared with Luciella, the knowledge/memories of what happened in the intervening years. What i foresee happening is a bewildered Luciella will be rather upset to find herself alone with Clare and then Riful will return. The Alicia and Beth bit was shown this chapter to emphasise the distance between them and the other parties involved. Chances are she'll be arriving just in time to find what's left of Riful. Edit: As for the conspicuous absence of Tabitha and Galatea, i'd say that in itself is a plot element, they surely can't still both be in Rabona. It could indicate the story is gonna start from someone else's pov next chapter. Leaving us all to wonder just what is going on...
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@Sleepy - yours theory is interesting, I agree Rafaela didn't use yoki because of reasons you mentioned. But I think her goal was a slighty different. Claymore warriors have a ritual of black cards. Most important duty of a warrior is to slain a comrade, before she awaken. Raphaela failure was disastrous, she allowed her sister to awake. IMHO her goal was to revert Luciella to human for long enought to slain her as a human. Raphaela engraved on Clare her love to Luciella so Clare will kill her as a fellow warrior, not a monster.
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2009-06-08, 10:11 | Link #919 |
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I don't trust Rafaela, there are to many inconsistesies.
1) She told Clare that she could die if she takes to much damage. Clare supposedly got her head cut of, but she came back. Rafaela got her head cut off but she did not come back for round three. Edit: Renee got shattered in Raphaela's mind but she did not die. Something is missing or it just does not add up. 2) Rafaela tells Clare that she is making a big mistake, but shows no concern about her body that is about to awaken. 3) She used the exact words that Clare used when she half awaken, "not enough, not nearly enough". These words were directed at Clare. This shows that Rafaela knows that Clare is capable of much more that wind-cutter. It was as if she was trying to get Clare to release her yoki. She also smiled after she was defeated (This is the first time Rafaela has ever smiled). Why will Yagi reuse these words again? 4) she said it was Clare that intruded, but Clare was clearly out of control during that time. She blamed Clare, but in the end she gave Clare something that Clare needed, how convenient. There are good explanations for all these inconsistenses, but I'm just a bit suspicious of Rafaela. Rafaela had only one goal, and that was to save or kill her sister, her helping Clare might have someting to do with her goal.
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2009-06-08, 10:33 | Link #920 | |
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I am still not sure who really intruded rafs mind. Perhaps it was neither clare nor rafs control who brought clare to raffaella. But perhaps helping clare has something do about how similar personalities clare and raf are, like rubel said. Perhaps she don't wanted all her experiences go to waste and her life totally be invane. That is what i think about it.
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