2007-11-24, 18:10 | Link #61 |
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well fafnir, dean and sniper have said things that i wanted to say this won't be as long as i thought.
i believe fafnir's theory about parners is correct that setsuna is provides close range defense for lockon who provides long range support for setsuna. this can be seen in allelujah and tieria respectively.here's my theory on celestial being's battle formation. exia: close range dynames: sniper kyrios: fighter/close range/mid range/bomber or multi-purpose virtue: powerhouse gunner (though dynames seems to have a gun meant to deal with close rangers) now onto reinforcements and range of vision, as sniper pointed out when one gundam destroys an enemy unit that unit's allies will rush to the scene to avenge their fallen comrade and while there are chances that some of them specialize in long range combat, the others can just as easily specialize in close range combat. this also allows us to consider the idea that setsuna specializes in close range combat.
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2007-11-24, 20:19 | Link #63 | |
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It is obvious why the solid blades are preferable, anyway; it is reliable. Beam tech is still new, so CB doesn't want to depend on it alone. This just reminds me of a joke concerning scientists trying to create a pen that can be used upside-down and in zero gravity. And someone without a science degree ask why they can't just use pencils...
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2007-11-24, 23:12 | Link #65 | |
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2007-11-25, 10:20 | Link #66 |
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And would that make the released shot more stable than a more focused energy blade with constant energy feed? If they can fire beams at such distances with such precision (even one millimeter divergence from the original firing vector could result in severe case of missing the intended spot in the situation we had displayed), it is hard to buy the excuse that atmospheric conditions somehow makes them unreliable. I am not saying the solid blades are not more reliable, i am saying the reason apparently presented for beam blades not being reliable doesn't make much sense. (Though since the explanation comes with a model kit, perhaps i am better of without relating this to anime, even though both are official)
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2007-11-25, 15:14 | Link #67 | |
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Since Beam sabers are relatively low payload items they are worth carrying for that reason and for things like cutting doors in things. There is also the new type blocking of beamrifle fire with them as a possibility. |
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2007-11-25, 16:59 | Link #68 | |
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By the way, do the names of the Gundams' weapons remind anyone else of set items in action RPGs? GN blade, GN rifle, GN pistol, GN shield: that gives a +15 bonus!
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2007-11-26, 00:36 | Link #69 |
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In combat, why are the close combat weapons so big, the only thing I seen so far that are small are the daggers from Exia and dagger used by enact.
There is also the armor in close combat, how come the solid blade prove useless against a commander Tieren, while mean sabers could cut through it as butter in that situation. |
2007-11-26, 00:39 | Link #70 |
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The solid blade requires vibration to cut. I believe the Tieren had steadied the blade. Without vibrations it's just like striking a hatchet to a hammerhead. Not a big effect.
As for size... Well... Compensation?
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2007-11-26, 00:50 | Link #71 |
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It could be longer instead of having so much mass or change the curve of the edge to increase the property of the blade. Exia would have a easier time wielding it big main blade used against all opponents.
All the time, the blades lack the range or ease off quick usage even the main one. I think that exia would need a change the deflection in its shield, it seems to flat in a way for a suit meant for close combat. Dynames could do better just on drawing out ist pistols. In comparison to exia drawing out some of it blades to reset and get fire upon. |
2007-11-26, 00:54 | Link #72 |
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I don't think anyone here has really gone over how much better Setsuna could be with piloting the Exia. He certainly isn't the Neji Hyuuga of Gundams in 00. He could stand to be swifter and have more grace, as well as have quicker reactions.
As far as the design of the Exia... Well there are improvements that could be made, but things are as they are and like the saying goes, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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By the way, I found it rather amusing to see the beam daggers used underwater. It was as if the creators saw what the model box writers said about beam sabers being ineffective in certain atmospheric conditions and got ticked off by it. Either that, or the two groups have to work on that communication thing.
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2007-11-26, 19:59 | Link #75 |
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Don't know if this has been mentioned.
THe GN particles mess up radar and everything like that right? Wouldn't it work both ways? If it didn't, all it would take is one dud missile and a decent engineering team to reverse engineer the missile guidance system and how it counteracts the GN particles. To date I don't recall any homing missiles used just bombs. Missiles, bombs and heavy artillery only work if there's someone to mop up afterwards, heavy reliance on carpet bombing and artillery never ever wins a war by itself. You have to get in there and get your hands bloody. Personally I do think they're using fairly standard military tactics most of the time, long range strikes followed by in melee fighting with air support. Bear in mind though the Gundam as it stands is a PR machine in itself, particularly in this series so far. It's not being kept secret. In fact it seems that the CB's are using it like a statement "we'll do what ,we want when we want and there isn't a goddamn thing you lot can do about it" Personally I think the whole sword thing emphasises this eg I'm so awesome I don't need guns to kick your ass 7 ways from sunday. (Note I'm only up to ep 7)
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2007-11-26, 20:49 | Link #76 |
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That has already been mention, if even it hasn't been posted in this thread. For the pattern, it goes sweeps, virtue and kyrios to handle those duties. Kyrios handle air oppenents usually. Dynames and exia actually attack in a scatter assualt pattern, all to episodes to 8 so far. Individially they also op for guns, other than exia.
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2007-11-27, 01:17 | Link #77 |
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Ah. In reply to the bit about him using beam sabers underwater:
Beam weapons have always worked in Gundam, from Mobile Suit Gundam up to Gundam 00, every series. Every Principality of Zeon amphibious mobile suit(except for the Hygogg)uses beam weapons. In Gundam Seed they mention that the effectiveness of beam weapons of all kinds is reduced. Just offering that clarification for the many of you that have been a bit skeptical about this. As far as why... Eh... I'm sure there's a real reason.
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