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Old 2010-04-19, 17:32   Link #161
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I like Gins bankai because its not illogical or potentially plot breaking like practically every other bankai (or even some shikai) that have been introduced so far.

It's also nice seeing our protagonist actually holding his own for a change rather than getting his ass handed to him and/or winning due to plotkai bs.
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Old 2010-04-19, 18:04   Link #162
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hear hear !!! a fearless defense of gin's bankai XD

mate...you better start running real fast
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Old 2010-04-19, 18:25   Link #163
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heh. I shouldn't run away, but feel pity for those that can't handle a differing opinion.
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Old 2010-04-19, 19:53   Link #164
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Duno how exactly Gin's bankai looks good... yeh it has high speed, cool... And? Ichigo still keeps blocking it so I see completly nothing great about it. If Ichigo didn't block it so easily, then we would be talking...
Ichigo was able to block Byakuya's Bankai fairly easily with his own Bankai, Gin's Bankai is proving to be rather difficult for Ichigo to block, to the point that Ichigo has stayed on defense for pretty much the whole fight, and he said that if Gin's sword pointed at him it would be bad. This is the first fight in a long time that's being fought with actual strategy and sword play rather than huge explosions, illusions, or giant blocks of ice, I don't see how you can be complaining right now. Especially since Urahara is on his way, you know Yoruichi will come too. Maybe the Godess of Flash will out speed Gin's Bankai to save Ichigo.
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Old 2010-04-19, 20:30   Link #165
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^Yoruichi and Urahara aren't coming yet, Isshin has already arrived only if Aizen releases his trolling bankai and Gin brings out a troll mask (may God save us all if that ever happens) will Urahara and Yoruichi pop into the fight otherwise they're sipping on tea waiting for the conclusion making hot, sweet sweet...
Spoiler for :
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Old 2010-04-19, 20:54   Link #166
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Urahara's imminent (sp) arrival is a confirmed spoiler from Kubo himself. Yoruichi is just speculation on my part.
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Old 2010-04-19, 21:02   Link #167
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well the setup is fully in place for urahara to unveil his anti-hogyouku hax gadgets.
especially with us being given another aizen+hogyouku "cliffhanger."
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Old 2010-04-19, 21:12   Link #168
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part of the problem with ichigo holding his own against gin using "brains" is that ulqy wiped the floor with him using just brawns, even unreleased.

frankly i would have really liked gin to wipe the floor with ichigo and then force him to go vaizard mode.

either:
1) gin is not that strong
2)ichigo has grown miles since his super hollow mode experience with ulqy.
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Old 2010-04-19, 21:33   Link #169
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3) gin is just playing with him for the lulz
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Old 2010-04-19, 21:51   Link #170
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either:
1) gin is not that strong
2)ichigo has grown miles since his super hollow mode experience with ulqy.
For the sake of defending Gin, it's likely the second reason. After getting nearly killed by Ulquiorra's base form the first time around in Hueco Mundo, he ended up fairing okay against Grimmjow before being forced to go Vizard. It was a big improvement from the last two times they fought, when Ichigo's bankai alone lost quickly and miserably to the same opponent.

After beating Grimm, taking a beating from Noi, and then healing up, Ichigo suddenly managed to do okay against Ulquiorra's base form for a fairly long time without going Vizard. Ulquiorra himself even admitted it. And now that he's come back from the dead again (with a new mask to boot), it stands to reason he's become even more capable a fighter with Bankai alone.

So you know how Aizen had gotten interrupted before he could finish telling Ichigo what the other half of his background was? What he was actually going to say was "a saiyan". Seriously.

So if Gin can make a comeback and prove he was just trolling Ichigo the whole time, then it'll be an epic win for Gin (since Ichigo really has most likely gotten that much stronger). And should Gin lose it'll just be...expected.
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Old 2010-04-19, 22:45   Link #171
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3) gin is just playing with him for the lulz
*cough* 4) Gin is making up for something. *cough*
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Old 2010-04-20, 10:37   Link #172
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I dunno, I kinda feel like A) Gin's bankai is cool. B) He hasn't revealed everything about it yet.

Also, will there be a chapter this week? I feel like Golden Week is coming up soon, and I know there isn't a chapter for any of Shounen Jump then.
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Old 2010-04-20, 11:40   Link #173
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let's see........



Ikkaku: Well, go ahead and argue. Nothing can change the outcome of your demise anyways.

Renji: You will lose to me, Abarai Renji!!

Byakuya: It's a thousand years too early for you to become worthy enough to die by my bankai.

Grimmjaw: I won't need two arms to kill you!!

Ulqi: Even if you rise up a thousand times, there will be no victory for any of you.


and now

Gin: There's no way you can win.


I'd like to believe Kishi for once, and it'd be great to see Gin pawn Ichi, but sadly that's not going to be the case
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Old 2010-04-20, 14:36   Link #174
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lol that's one part I used to love about bleach characters attitudes especially byakuya
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Old 2010-04-20, 17:07   Link #175
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it's reverse psychology - if a baddie just once said "you'll probably kick my ass" ichigo would be dead and cremated.

somebody pass this hint to gin...
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Old 2010-04-20, 18:11   Link #176
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it's reverse psychology - if a baddie just once said "you'll probably kick my ass" ichigo would be dead and cremated.

somebody pass this hint to gin...
Gin's using double reverse psychology right now. Its far superior to reverse psychology, and comparable to regular psychology only more powerfull.
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Old 2010-04-20, 19:30   Link #177
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But does he know he's using double reverse psychology? Or is he even tricking himself?! In which case he'd think he was using standard psychology, but he's too smart to think something like that would work, in which case he must be using reverse psychology, but if he was that would mean he thought he'd lose...

Brain. Hurts. Lying down now.
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Old 2010-04-20, 22:09   Link #178
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Golden week holidays start May 3rd but there is also a national holiday April 29th so there's a chance you won't have a chapter next week or/and the week after but there should be one this week.
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Old 2010-04-20, 23:10   Link #179
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I like how Gin's bankai looks simple and sounds basic, however it's also one of the most deadliest.

Not as flashy as the other bankai. Simple, yet efficient.
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Old 2010-04-21, 00:47   Link #180
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Golden week holidays start May 3rd but there is also a national holiday April 29th so there's a chance you won't have a chapter next week or/and the week after but there should be one this week.
i dare kubo to not release a 3 chapter special either before or after the holiday *evil*
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