2009-03-17, 13:02 | Link #61 |
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Good question Rainbowman. Like you said, I would think that it is in between moral and absolute justice. Kizaru is not as strict, harsh, or ruthless, as Akainu, but then again he isn't as forgiving or lenient as Aokiji. I find that it is the actions and personalities of the admirals that define/describe their sense of justice. In the case of Aokiji, we know that he adheres to "moral justice", but he tends to do his job in a lazy manner, hence the reason why he does his business through "Lazy Justice". For Akainu, he strictly follows "absolute justice", and as we've seen, he will do whatever it takes to apprehend/eliminate his target(s) regardless of any collateral damage, casualties, or even fatalities that may occur along the way. Perhaps when he is formally introduced, his justice will be described as "Relentless Justice", due to the fact that he will never give up when hounding his targets.
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2009-03-19, 03:10 | Link #62 |
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I have a question regarding Marines (and Buster call). Nico Robin mention in chapter 359 page 13 that only the three Admirals and the three Generals have the power to invoke the Buster Call, do we have any information as to who these three Generals are?
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2009-03-19, 14:34 | Link #63 |
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When Robin said "It used to be that only the 3 generals and the top admirals could use it", she must have meant the 3 admirals and supreme admiral at the time during the Ohara incident. This has to be the case since the next thing she says is "But CP9 has the permission to do it only once...through General Aokiji", and we know that Aokiji is known as an admiral, not a general. What happened here was the translators must have used the term general instead of admiral, perhaps because they can be used interchangeably in Japanese or that they roughly have the same meaning. So, to simply answer your question, the three generals are the three admirals. That is all.
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2009-03-19, 20:21 | Link #66 |
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@JINBEI - Thank you very much for putting this up for us. It is much appreciated.
I must say, the person who I found the most interesting to read about is Vice Admiral Tsuru. I had no idea that she is the one who gives mandates to the Shichibukai. That is some crazy authority she has right there. I thought if anyone was to command the Shichibukai at will, it would be the 5 elder stars, but I guess not. It's also very interesting to note that she knows about every single person in the seas. Simply amazing. Her vast wealth of knowledge and experience certainly deems her worthy of being the brain and undisputed smartest person in the marines. She is quite the prestigious marine, to say the least. I'm looking even more forward to seeing what story developments she'll be involved in now.
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Sengoku is known as the supreme admiral, and he is the one who has the authority over every other person in the marines. The only people he answers to are the Gorosei (Five Elder Stars) from the World Government. Garp is renowned as the legendary hero of the marines who came close to capturing Gol D. Roger many times. Beyond these two facts, we haven't been given any more pieces of information to suggest that they fought equally with the pirate king. In all honesty, if they did manage to fight the pirate king on equal terms, we as readers would've been told so by now. As it stands, the only person to have ever tied in a fight with Gol D. Roger is Whitebeard.
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2009-04-05, 16:41 | Link #74 |
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I got this info from one piece yellow and that book tells a lot of things that is not told in the one piece.. I got this from Korean site and Japan sites. Also even terms doesnt mean pirate king did not won at the end.. but I am positive my info on this is correct.
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2009-04-05, 18:36 | Link #76 |
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hm thats strange since my data tells me that Garp and Sengoku fought with Roger in even terms one picece yellow book I read was offically translated by korean publishers so I found the translator misinterperating the pharse little slime but the translator might have mintranslated it... but one thing defiently stated is Sengoku also cornerd Pirate king just like Garp this I am positive.
And fighting in even terms does not mean they tied the battle WB might be the only one who tied with GD but there could be few people who fought with GD in even terms but at the end lost (Lucci and Luffy fight can be described as even although at the end Luffy won.) |
2009-04-06, 02:58 | Link #78 |
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Are you sure about that?
because I definetly remeber that was wrote on my book. and I just checked japanese one piece wiki site and it stated Sengoku and Garp BOTH cornered The pirate king. And not just me but several Korean People also stated they have read that one piece yellow stated Sengoku and Garp cornering Pirate king and I find that it would be impossible for everyone to have read wrong sources... you might have got a wrong translation or something although I cannot confirm Sengoku and Garp fighting with Pirate king in Even terms as I do not have the book right now and even if I scan it I dont think many people can read it. but I am definetly sure Sengoku also cornered Pirate king.. (Sengoku was admireal... at the time roger was a pirate so it is just netural to think he also accomplished it. Anyway I wont be talking about this issue I just stated about Sengoku and Garp because it seems many english sites I go to seems to not have the informaiton I see in many japanese site and korean sites. Just wanted to give something about the marines...especially since sengoku seems to be underestimated lot of time. P.S Anyway I just asked people who have one piece yellow and yes they said it was wrote on the book.. so I do not know it was mistranslated or you got the mistranslated version. oh and just to make sure I have posted a question on this in an active korean community where people reads one piece in japanese and or translated version I will post the link after I get some answers I know many of you cannot read korean.. but I can explain the answers so... it wont matter |
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2009-04-06, 04:18 | Link #80 |
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Ok I got answer the link is
http://ruliweb.nate.com/ruliboard/re...ft=y&num=49678 simply the answer is given by the second reply apperantly the info is not on Sengoku the info is on Garp and it says Garp and Sengoku together fought with the pirate king ( 20年以上前にセンゴクと共に海賊王ゴ-ル.D.ロジャ-と渡り合い) this part but it seems korean translation version somehow have it they fought in even terms or something but the Direct japanese version have it Garp and Sengoku toghether fought with the pirate king although I cannot confirm this means it was 2 vs 1 but as Rogers was always with his crew and such it can at least tell Sengoku is a competent fighter who have fought with Gol.D Rogers crew with Garp and well some other Mariines. |
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