Lucky Star - Episode 15 Discussion / Poll

[Kinny Riddle]

Originally Posted by archanfels

Sorry to thread hijack but somehow I'm not allowed to make new threads

Anyone here care about the ongoing SaiMoe 07? I never bothered w/ it before but decide to follow it this year due to LS's participation.

Spoiler:

Many casual/outsiders speculated that it will be a L*S year, and it's been proven correct when Tsukasa came out winner against heavyhitter Yagami Hayate of Nanoha in group 4, and Kanata(read: the mother) managed to snatch No. 4 in group 5(mind you, all her appearance in the anime so far is one picture shot).

However, the real Otakus point out that the Rozen Maiden and Nanoha factions both still have a legion of diehard faithfuls behind them. This was shown when yesterday in group 10, after a fierce competition, Konata finally lost to Suiginto of RM by a tiny margin. (Akira made No. 5 in the same group thx to Kona's side effect)

LS's real ace Kagamin should have no problem dominate her group 15, and Miyuki, just for being a meganeko, should come out alright in her group 18.

Today in group 11, Hiiragi Matsuri will be participating, personaly I doubt she can make Top 8 like Kanata did, but we will see.

Other LS participants include Yukata and Kuroi sensei, both have lost their first round but made it into the revival matchs iirc.

Anyways, above is the brief of my 2 hr research last night. I really wish the LS legion can make it to the end, not just for my own preference but for the event itself: it'd be boring to see another death match between the Nanohas and the Rozen Maidens again.

P.S. Many "experts" point out the this year's L*S gang strongly resembles last year's SoS brigate. Each of the main cast have superior individual popularity, but as a group they are at a disadvantage numberwise and may be subject to sieges from other major factions like RM/Nanoha.

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If you want to discuss Saimoe 2007, please proceed to the following link.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=49120

My take on it? My observation on last year's competition tells me that Lucky Star will probably fall victim to its own popularity, much like Suzumiya Haruhi characters last year. As there's too many people hating Kyo-Ani just for the sake of hating it simply because it's popular. 2ch has a sort of "anti-anything-that's-god-damn-popular" complex. I hear TYPE-MOON, Leaf and KEY fans were driven out of 2ch and forced to create their own boards because of this "anti-elitism", but that's discussion for another forum.

[Mirrinus]

Originally Posted by archanfels

From what I gathered the Japanese Otakus are pretty pissed off about all the Shiraishi BS as well

Honestly now, since when was there ANYTHING that didn't piss off some people on 2ch? We've really got to stop using it as the end-all thermometer of Japanese opinion.

[archanfels]

Originally Posted by Mirrinus

Honestly now, since when was there ANYTHING that didn't piss off some people on 2ch? We've really got to stop using it as the end-all thermometer of Japanese opinion.

And I said I got that from 2ch where?

[Mirrinus]

Originally Posted by archanfels

And I said I got that from 2ch where?

Then I'm curious, just what are your sources?

[AVPlaya]

Dudes... let's not get into some heated discussion here... it's well known that the J-otakus are very, very opinionated, especially about anime series. Yes there are a lot of negative opinion about Shiraishi and Akira, not just on 2ch but also blogs and social sites like Mixi, but there's also a lot of love for them too. It's pretty mich 50-50 at this point, but if Shiraishi keep doing these senseless and not very funny EDs I'm thinking the anti-Lucky Channel camp may be growing rapidly.

[Vexx]

I love what Shiriashi is doing (and Akira as far as that goes) .... to some extent the show is pushing the buttons of the "irrational zealot" crowd because, frankly, irrational zealots need all the misery that can be ladled on them. But I think its unfortunate that its happening to the extent its derailing and detracting from the core Lucky*Star.

@Archanfels: if you're going to negate what Mirrinus speculated then provide your sources in the post instead of just one-line negating. That's a bit pointless. This is a forum, not a chatroom. That said, I think your Saimoe analysis is probably going to pan out as accurate. Ensemble cast emphasis shows tend to do poorly in these "one character" popularity contests. And as American Idol recently discovered, the "anti-anything-popular" movements can really much bleep up any result. I've watched Saimoe for the last several years and pretty much written it off as saying anything useful.
Far too much club-voting and manipulation going on...

[AVPlaya]

Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

My take on it? My observation on last year's competition tells me that Lucky Star will probably fall victim to its own popularity, much like Suzumiya Haruhi characters last year. As there's too many people hating Kyo-Ani just for the sake of hating it simply because it's popular. 2ch has a sort of "anti-anything-that's-god-damn-popular" complex. I hear TYPE-MOON, Leaf and KEY fans were driven out of 2ch and forced to create their own boards because of this "anti-elitism", but that's discussion for another forum.

First time I'll be participating too. I'm going all out for L*S, EMMA, ARIA, Saiunkoku, and Akazukin (hey I liked it). Wohoo! Feel like a otaku now~~

I think Nanoha fans now dominate 2ch... the ultimate underdog anime. I fully L*S to lose this one, but I'm alright with that... I tried.

[Xiaolang]

Oh my lawd!

Spoiler for scene in episode 15:

I've never seen Konata so star-struck and vulnerable at the same time. I'm referring of course to the Live House scene, when Kagami and Konata switched places. Konata is usually easy-going and content with her life, but in this scene, she's happy in a much different way. I guess, I'm getting ahead of myself, but that's the feeling I get from this scene.

http://randomc.animeblogger.net/imag...Large%2003.jpg

It makes me want to hug her, or at least pinch her cheeks. She looks so cute! =D

[Kaioshin Sama]

Funny how everything I have predicted is coming true, Yuko Goto appeared, and none to soon. Now that that necessary appearance is out of the way, time to look for Yuki Matsuoka (Tsuruya) who will probably be in episode 16. My friend now refers to this show as Lucky Staruhi and I fully agree. Seeing Aya Hirano and friends in concert.....not so surprising. In fact I knew it was coming at some point judging by the demographic in Japan the show is aimed at.

Looks at post below....speaking of lost novelty:

We got one episode of reprieve before the show launched right back into the self-referencing Haruhi stuff. Anyway, Aya Hirano fans must be going wild as I continue to lament just how overdone these Haruhi jokes have gotten and how in the long run it's just not that interesting for someone who really doesn't care about how many times they can see something related to Haruhi tied into this show. I can't imagine how much longer I'll be able to put up with the same basic joke over and over as indifference is now turning into rejection. It's really hard to laugh at this stuff anymore other than how ludcrious it's getting.

Well at least we have proof that Aya Hirano doesn't look like Konata. Speaking of which, I've got to admit I'm also getting weary of Aya Hirano in general being thrown at me from every possible angle the industry can offer. I didn't need an all new one. If the industry wants to burn out her career from overexposure they really couldn't be doing a more efficient job of it.

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by AVPlaya

Dudes... let's not get into some heated discussion here... it's well known that the J-otakus are very, very opinionated, especially about anime series. Yes there are a lot of negative opinion about Shiraishi and Akira, not just on 2ch but also blogs and social sites like Mixi, but there's also a lot of love for them too. It's pretty mich 50-50 at this point, but if Shiraishi keep doing these senseless and not very funny EDs I'm thinking the anti-Lucky Channel camp may be growing rapidly.

well just goes to show how much they are milking it to the extent that big L*S fans are beginning to feel the sting of "maybe they have it wrong this time" O.O ~ it lost it's novelty the first time and i guess 4th strike and he will be a dead man

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Xiaolang

Oh my lawd!

Spoiler for scene in episode 15:

I've never seen Konata so star-struck and vulnerable at the same time. I'm referring of course to the Live House scene, when Kagami and Konata switched places. Konata is usually easy-going and content with her life, but in this scene, she's happy in a much different way. I guess, I'm getting ahead of myself, but that's the feeling I get from this scene.

http://randomc.animeblogger.net/imag...Large%2003.jpg

Spoiler:

Yeah i can understand why you'd think that --- i in some sense feel the same way.

& yeah, she does look even more adorable in that scene then usual.

[Xiaolang]

Originally Posted by Shiroth

Spoiler:

Yeah i can understand why you'd think that --- i in some sense feel the same way.

& yeah, she does look even more adorable in that scene then usual.

Spoiler:

Maybe I've been watching way too much Nana lately (watched the first 28 episodes in 4 days -- please help!) but seeing a different side of the usually giddy Konata, melted my heart a little... or maybe I should finish watching Nana before it destroys me.

Even for just a few seconds, Konata was a completely different person in this episode.

Even though without the aid of subtitles, I can understand just enough, based on the body language alone. (Or at least, that's what I'd like to think.)

[AVPlaya]

Originally Posted by Xiaolang

Spoiler:

Maybe I've been watching way too much Nana lately (watched the first 28 episodes in 4 days -- please help!) but seeing a different side of the usually giddy Konata, melted my heart a little... or maybe I should finish watching Nana before it destroys me.

Even though without the aid of subtitles, I can understand just enough, based on the body language alone. (Or at least, that's what I'd like to think.)

I understand what you mean... I just finished the entire run of NANA a while ago. Now that I think back, I believe that it's possible that the scene in the spoilers is a reference to how Hachi looked when she first saw Nana (Osaki) live. More I think about it more it kinda make sense. A NANA reference in L*S... wow, that's going to throw some otaku off. Since you're on 28 this is not a NANA spoiler for you.

[Xiaolang]

Originally Posted by AVPlaya

I understand what you mean... I just finished the entire run of NANA a while ago. Now that I think back, I believe that it's possible that the scene in the spoilers is a reference to how Hachi looked when she first saw Nana (Osaki) live. More I think about it more it kinda make sense. A NANA reference in L*S... wow, that's going to throw some otaku off. Since you're on 28 this is not a NANA spoiler for you.

Oh for the record, I wasn't implying a referential connection between Nana and Lucky Star. I'm only referring to myself; I'm feeling kinda depressed after going through the emotional hell caused by Nana. I only stopped at the middle of episode 29, just so I won't cry myself to sleep.

I need more L*S to counterbalance Nana!

[Shiroth]

Its funny how most people end up seeing NANA by viewing a lot of episodes at once, i was the same.

As for the NANA reference.. i never thought about it that way. Very interesting.

[Xiaolang]

Originally Posted by Shiroth

Its funny how most people end up seeing NANA by viewing a lot of episodes at once, i was the same.

As for the NANA reference.. i never thought about it that way. Very interesting.

If I watch Nana once a week, I'd probably go crazy. I mean, with the way that series is set up, the cliffhangers are friggin' killer.

As for the possibility of a reference, that would be very interesting. But for it to make it an actual reference, it has to be somewhat obvious at least. Like for example, maybe Konata giving Aya, a long-stemmed rose with a gold ribbon.

[AVPlaya]

Originally Posted by Xiaolang

Oh for the record, I wasn't implying a referential connection between Nana and Lucky Star. I'm only referring to myself; I'm feeling kinda depressed after going through the emotional hell caused by Nana. I only stopped at the middle of episode 29, just so I won't cry myself to sleep.

I need more L*S to counterbalance Nana!

Hehe, I was just saying that your post made me think there's a reference there and it made sense. And here's a spoiler for NANA for you - there's more crying in store for you.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Xiaolang

As for the possibility of a reference, that would be very interesting. But for it to make it an actual reference, it has to be somewhat obvious at least. Like maybe Konata giving Aya, a long-stemmed rose with a gold ribbon.

True true. If we were to see a NANA reference in this show, it'll probably involve something else from the series.

Anyway, back to everyone's favourite Lucky Star discussion~

[Xiaolang]

Originally Posted by AVPlaya

Hehe, I was just saying that your post made me think there's a reference there and it made sense. And here's a spoiler for NANA for you - there's more crying in store for you.

Spoiler:

You know, prior to watching this episode of Lucky Star, I was watching one of the more heart-wrenching episodes of Nana, when Hachi was so confused and lonely and ended up with Takumi. I didn't cry after this episode, but when I saw the Konata X Kagamin scene at the Live House, it totally reminded me of Hachi X Nana for some odd reason, and almost me put to tears. Damn you Ai Yazawa!!! Even Lucky Star is making me cry!

And believe you me, I know what's in store in the last 19 episodes of Nana. I'm just delaying the inevitable.

So anywho, I want to rate this episode, but I will reserve judgment when the subs are out. But so far, this might be one of my favorite episodes.

[Shiroth]

Xiaolang: When you reach future episodes of NANA, make sure you pm me about it, shall be fun to talk. :3

& yeah sorry for going off-topic.

Spoiler for episode 15:

How i love a Da Capo reference.