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TheAlucid · 2009-02-06, 20:11

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Originally Posted by Magin

So clear this up for me... keep in mind I've only seen the horrible scans, but from those two pics... is the locket shown breaking because Ruby is being hypothetical about it?

But still, I'm pretty sure that he blood awoke because he took so much damage... and Moka was in danger... then again, this could be the fault of the trans, but 5 shows him losing a ton of blood due to the knives

... and now I need to go back and find out what started this whole argument, so I can cut it off at the roots...

Problem I'm having is that in that scene Ruby isn't being hypothetical about it, if those translations are correct it's just: 'Take a look at this holy lock with all the links broken while Ruby talks about Tsukune's relaxed lifestyle over the break.' It's nonsensical, just an image thrown up there with unrelated text.

HayashiTakara · 2009-02-06, 20:16

@Dosetsu, Ruby knows nothing about what happened prior to Tsukune's appearance. She was merely speculating as to what happened. Bad Translations =/= inconsistencies. And a friendly piece of advice... don't make links to raws and such, you'll get banned for it.

@Tempest, ol' buddy, now you're the one putting words in my mouth. I never once said Moka was overpowered. And she never fought when weakened. During the fight with Midou, after she got soaked she immediately gave blood to Tsukune which was the final transition. So, no she never got beaten while weakened. And I never called her weak either. I only said Tsukune is >= Moka in terms of raw power. She only has skill above him.

I do agree that Tsukune is somewhat incomplete. He doesn't have full control yet. . But that's what I'm speculating what the lock is for. Tsukune has already came far with it. While holding on to Belmont, the lock's properties was cancelled and he didn't go berserk. Most likely because he wasn't using any of his Youki. But as we all know he's currently in training, and he's learning all sorts of ways to control his Youki.

Magin · 2009-02-06, 22:34

... and how many of us want the kind of training he's receiving?

That lucky bastard... but then, this is why manga Tsukune is so awesome

Steel Maverick · 2009-02-07, 08:18

Inner Moka this time round was just....utter awesomeness. Her style of cool, calm, collected and her deviousness is what makes her top of the harem by far.

kenjiharima · 2009-02-07, 11:34

Her skills and overpowering youki what makes her on top. Inner Moka i mean.

willyvereb · 2009-02-07, 16:55

Her style too...arogant(and rightfully:P), treasing, intelligent, caring and tsundere...only one of them enough for a somewhat unique character...

kenjiharima · 2009-02-07, 16:57

Reminds me more of a villain character than a protagonist in another anime, but hey it works for Inner Moka.

HayashiTakara · 2009-02-08, 13:14

Moka is pretty much the standard upperclass ojou type Tsundere. The only thing that makes her different for this stereotype is that she's not blonde and/or doesn't have pig-tails.

ZippyDSM · 2009-02-08, 13:28

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Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

What the hell are you talking about? He's been in control the whole time. Ever since the battle with Midou he's been in control at will. May I refresh your memory?

Spoiler for right after the midou fight:

Theres never been a time after where he's lost conscience. He's always been in control. Though not control of the blood. But definately conscience of what he's doing.

Wrong.
Sorry =^^=

ggaa I iz late in replying ><

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Originally Posted by Magin

... dosetsu, that's a load of bull. What happened the second time around was loss of blood= needs to heal self, therefore the vampire blood in him went to work. problem was, it broke the locket, and therefore Tsukune had no control of the vampire blood overwhelming his human blood (the locket is what keeps his vampire blood under control... no locket= once you start tapping into the vampire blood, no control)

And as for SI... well, I purposely have forgotten what happened during the ghoul arc (I don't care how badass he went, Moka trying to kill him to save him, plus then trying to stay away from him... made me sad. I'm just grateful that we didn't have to wait a month for chapters and trans back then), but I do believe he tapped into his vampire blood one too many times, and since this was before locket, the vampire blood overwhelmed there too. I need to double-check though

Pretty much hes not use to it and it can easily overpower and devour him,he has no control over it once it starts up, thus why the locket is needed in the first place.

Its very much like the Hulk, the other persona takes over, and this persona is even more mindless than the hulk.

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Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Moka is pretty much the standard upperclass ojou type Tsundere. The only thing that makes her different for this stereotype is that she's not blonde and/or doesn't have pig-tails.

Gray silver hair=platinum blonde
:P

Cio · 2009-02-08, 21:18

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Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Moka is pretty much the standard upperclass ojou type Tsundere. The only thing that makes her different for this stereotype is that she's not blonde and/or doesn't have pig-tails.

I think Inner Moka is beyond that type of ojou-sama tsundere... I believe the twintail blonde you talking about will give herself to someone with beard if he tells he love her... However, Inner Moka will give Tsukune a kick if this happen, i think

slidingk1 · 2009-02-08, 23:32

Is it just me or there is now finally progress with tsukune and inner moka. He can now hold her hand and lock arms with her. But heaven forbid if he lays ontop of her. Which leads people to suspect that the inner moka is becoming more accepting of tsukune.

Dark Mage · 2009-02-09, 00:00

Their relationship has definitely improved and yeah letting him hold her hands and linking arms is an improvement. She always liked Tsukune but never showed it but its starting to change now and maybe that day isnt far away where she might even let him kiss her

kenjiharima · 2009-02-09, 00:09

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Originally Posted by slidingk1

Is it just me or there is now finally progress with tsukune and inner moka. He can now hold her hand and lock arms with her. But heaven forbid if he lays ontop of her. Which leads people to suspect that the inner moka is becoming more accepting of tsukune.

Well she want's to be on top that's the reason for sure. lol

passin'gass · 2009-02-09, 00:33

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Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Well she want's to be on top that's the reason for sure. lol

yeah, i read that in a h-doujin

but how will Outer Moka react to their date? they are aware of each other's actions, right?

Used Can · 2009-02-09, 00:54

I think only Inner Mocha is aware of all the actions done. I don't think Outer Mocha has any idea of what the Inner one does when she's released. Actually, Outer Mocha didn't even know about Inner until the latter started talking to her.

Julius Firefocht · 2009-02-09, 01:35

R+V S2 Chapter 16 is pure win.

We need more Inner Moka. I hope Inner Moka gets to stay for the next few chapters or so. Its been too long since we have seen so much of her.

Cio · 2009-02-09, 01:42

As long as Belmont is there, Inner Moka will often appear... But i think the Rosario need to be released too to release Inner Moka true power... It is cool that now Inner Moka have a nice weapon.

slidingk1 · 2009-02-09, 04:43

Inner Moka + Whip = yes my mistress vibes!!! Now for some reason I have the urge to watch golden boy.

kenjiharima · 2009-02-09, 12:52

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Originally Posted by passin'gass

yeah, i read that in a h-doujin

but how will Outer Moka react to their date? they are aware of each other's actions, right?

lol I also read that.

I think only inner Moka is aware, but Outer would like Tsukune to be on top. Complete opposites of the other. They need to separate like in the anime imho.

Nvis · 2009-02-09, 14:34

Anyone else can't get past the irony? (as a fan of Castlevania games)

Vampire using the legendary vampire-slaying whip.

2009-02-06, 20:16	Link #7562
HayashiTakara Chicken or Beef? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 41	@Dosetsu, Ruby knows nothing about what happened prior to Tsukune's appearance. She was merely speculating as to what happened. Bad Translations =/= inconsistencies. And a friendly piece of advice... don't make links to raws and such, you'll get banned for it. @Tempest, ol' buddy, now you're the one putting words in my mouth. I never once said Moka was overpowered. And she never fought when weakened. During the fight with Midou, after she got soaked she immediately gave blood to Tsukune which was the final transition. So, no she never got beaten while weakened. And I never called her weak either. I only said Tsukune is >= Moka in terms of raw power. She only has skill above him. I do agree that Tsukune is somewhat incomplete. He doesn't have full control *yet.* . But that's what I'm speculating what the lock is for. Tsukune has already came far with it. While holding on to Belmont, the lock's properties was cancelled and he didn't go berserk. Most likely because he wasn't using any of his Youki. But as we all know he's currently in training, and he's learning all sorts of ways to control his Youki. __________________ http://htakara82.deviantart.com/

2009-02-06, 22:34	Link #7563
Magin #1 Akashiya Moka Fan Author Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Where magic is real Age: 35	... and how many of us want the kind of training he's receiving? That lucky bastard... but then, this is why manga Tsukune is so awesome __________________ Gifted...or Cursed? R+V fanfic- Chapter 4 of A Water Bride and a Vampire is now up at FF.net! All fans of Inner or Outer Moka, come join her fanclub!

2009-02-07, 11:34	Link #7565
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Her skills and overpowering youki what makes her on top. Inner Moka i mean. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2009-02-07, 16:57	Link #7567
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Reminds me more of a villain character than a protagonist in another anime, but hey it works for Inner Moka. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2009-02-08, 13:14	Link #7568
HayashiTakara Chicken or Beef? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 41	Moka is pretty much the standard upperclass ojou type Tsundere. The only thing that makes her different for this stereotype is that she's not blonde and/or doesn't have pig-tails. __________________ http://htakara82.deviantart.com/

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Steel Maverick Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Land Down Under	Inner Moka this time round was just....utter awesomeness. Her style of cool, calm, collected and her deviousness is what makes her top of the harem by far.

2009-02-07, 16:55	Link #7566
willyvereb Mad Scientist #0000 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hungry Age: 35	Her style too...arogant(and rightfully:P), treasing, intelligent, caring and tsundere...only one of them enough for a somewhat unique character...

2009-02-08, 23:32	Link #7571
slidingk1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006	Is it just me or there is now finally progress with tsukune and inner moka. He can now hold her hand and lock arms with her. But heaven forbid if he lays ontop of her. Which leads people to suspect that the inner moka is becoming more accepting of tsukune.

2009-02-09, 00:00	Link #7572
Dark Mage Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008	Their relationship has definitely improved and yeah letting him hold her hands and linking arms is an improvement. She always liked Tsukune but never showed it but its starting to change now and maybe that day isnt far away where she might even let him kiss her

2009-02-09, 00:54	Link #7575
Used Can Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	I think only Inner Mocha is aware of all the actions done. I don't think Outer Mocha has any idea of what the Inner one does when she's released. Actually, Outer Mocha didn't even know about Inner until the latter started talking to her. __________________ "The name is Tin; Used is just an alias. I'm everything Shoe Box would like to be." - Used Can of the Aluminium Kingdom

2009-02-09, 01:35	Link #7576
Julius Firefocht Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	R+V S2 Chapter 16 is pure win. We need more Inner Moka. I hope Inner Moka gets to stay for the next few chapters or so. Its been too long since we have seen so much of her. __________________ In the eternal service of Her Most Holy God-Empress, Suzumiya Haruhi and Primarch Fate Testarossa Harlaown of the Blood Angels Legion. ~~~~~ We are armored by the Empress Herself. Rightousness is our Shield, Faith our armour and Hatred our weapon. Aye, we are indeed the Angels of Death. ~~~~~ Blog featuring anime, manga, seiyuus, tabletop wargames (WH40K) and everything in between: http://nk-ds.org/

2009-02-09, 01:42	Link #7577
Cio Otaku Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Indonesia Age: 38	As long as Belmont is there, Inner Moka will often appear... But i think the Rosario need to be released too to release Inner Moka true power... It is cool that now Inner Moka have a nice weapon.

2009-02-09, 04:43	Link #7578
slidingk1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006	Inner Moka + Whip = yes my mistress vibes!!! Now for some reason I have the urge to watch golden boy.

2009-02-09, 14:34	Link #7580
Nvis Where are the good animes Join Date: Dec 2003	Anyone else can't get past the irony? (as a fan of Castlevania games) Vampire using the legendary vampire-slaying whip.