Mobile Suit Gundam 00 - Episode 02 Discussion/Poll

[Ledgem]

Originally Posted by _X12A_Testament

I have been thinking that Tiera has a connection to the creator... Either clone or android with conciousness implanted.

Out of curiosity, what makes you think that?

[OMG_Zerg_Rush]

Originally Posted by Ledgem

Out of curiosity, what makes you think that?

Ep 1 , the part where he is floting in that strange hologram room maybe?
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Masturbation toys

[StrawHatLuffy]

Originally Posted by Nvis

I'm curious about that creator(CB broadcaster) now.

So, either the creator is:

1. over 200 years old...
2. a cyborg/brain in jar
3. cryogenic sleep
4. clone/ancestor look-alike
5. dead, but with pre-recorded message (a successor made the Gundams)
6. The message is entirely fake

Considering that we haven't really seen him "in-person" yet, I'll like to go for the 5th point, for now.

And don't you think it's kind of weird that everyone from Celestial Being seem to be on that space ship of theirs and the creator seem to be broadcasting his message from some mansion.

[brightman]

Originally Posted by StrawHatLuffy

And don't you think it's kind of weird that everyone from Celestial Being seem to be on that space ship of theirs and the creator seem to be broadcasting his message from some mansion.

Wang Liu Mei and her servant aren't on the Ptolemaios. Neither are Alejando Corner and Livonze.

[KiNA]

^ The last 2 name.. How do you know they on CB side?

[OMG_Zerg_Rush]

Originally Posted by Kira_Naruto

^ The last 2 name.. How do you know they on CB side?

in ep 3 they show which side they are on, or so iv'e been told
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Jeep commander

[brightman]

Originally Posted by Kira_Naruto

^ The last 2 name.. How do you know they on CB side?

Well, they talk as if they were on the CB side in Ep 2.

[patgarci]

i noticed one thing that this is the first time i saw all the gundams attacking as a single unit in the very beginging of the series, most of the other shows is either jacked gundams fighting each other or like wing it was more on idependent attacks and they dont even know the other gundam pilots.

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Gevurah

Allelujah is a cooky one, but I'm beginning to like his character a lot more. His engrish "I have control," line is going to be a classic in my book. Plus is that like a beam shotty on Kyrios? Plus Haro has some mean piloting skills. =)

As far as I know, "I have control" and "You have control" are not "engrish" phrases made up by Japanese.
They are aviation commands. You might wanna google them.

[kiramuro]

Originally Posted by wingdarkness

I don't know what's funnier, the badge of honor inwhich you say this or the fact you actually have a padawan that agrees with this...

I happened to agree with 4tran on this point however that does not make me his padawan. I shall elaborate why I think his statement is a fairly accurate assessment of the general feeling towards realism in gundam.

This is ignorant...To apply this thinking to a genre of anime that has shown you it will NEVER approach it's thematic texture in this way...I don't care if you're a military freak, a historian, or a closet RISK champion...To continuously expect this is an exhibition in futility...Gundam will never be that strict in political mapping nor in textbook waring stategem...What you will never understand is that X IS more realistic than Y when the context is Gundam...In Gundam a light spread of political or tactical prowess IS realistic in that general context...Most of us are mecha heads who speculate and run off at the mouth based on Gundam or based on a general understanding of these items you want a strict presentation of...Gundam itself goes after an audience that doesn't expect nor historically ever wanted a tale as strict...

The main problem is people are selectively applying certain real world reasonings (what you just called general understandings) to the context of gundam universe without realizing that those same reasonings cannot be exist without the context of the real world itself.

In science fiction writers often commit the same sort of error however in that case the mistake manifests itself as a lack of deeper understanding of the science behind it. For example the colonies in UC Gundam. They look like realistic O'Neill cylinders right? It's rotating to provide artificial gravity so they manage to get that part right. However they made a horrible mistake of not having a counter rotating section or making the colony shorter like in Wing. Any physics or aerospace engineering student will know that a torgue-free rotating object will eventually rotate about its major axis so all the UC colonies will end up tumbling about like freaking batons unless station keeping thrusts are constantly wasted in maintaining the correct angular velocity. On the flipside of coin I've heard people criticizing the Hourglass Plants because its shape looks too ludicrous but its rotation axis is sound (about its major axis) and structurally speaking the cone shape is good as a suspension system. The only downside is the smaller amount living surface area per colony mass. Anyways the point is criticism of realism based on the typical understanding usually results in faulty conclusions especially when you are trying apply some vague real world knowledge to the gundam universe. So either do it in a strict manner or not do it at all.

[KiNA]

Why are you guys still trying to kill kittens? >_<!!

[SonicX_Zero]

Originally Posted by Kira_Naruto

Why are you guys still trying to kill kittens? >_<!!

They've been doing that since God knows when... ;o

[Demongod86]

Originally Posted by Kira_Naruto

Why are you guys still trying to kill kittens? >_<!!

Don't you mean catgirls?

[hipeach]

Allelujah's "now I'm an atrocious massacrer.... but that's what Celestial Being is" got to be the best line from a Gundam protagonist

[KiNA]

^ Still cant beat I'm Gundam IMO

[Demongod86]

Originally Posted by Kira_Naruto

^ Still cant beat I'm Gundam IMO

"I'm going to kill you."

--Heero

[Ninjacat]

Ridiculous physics aside, anybody gets the feeling Celestial Being is run by a bunch of youngsters with lots of resources and goodwill and very little common sense?

Miss Wong and co. seem rich and powerfull enough to build a bunch of mechas. Only the magic particle drives and the plasma sword seem really abnormal pieces of tech. It would also explain why they hire a crazy kid like Setsuna...

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Ninjacat

Ridiculous physics aside, anybody gets the feeling Celestial Being is run by a bunch of youngsters with lots of resources and goodwill and very little common sense?

Miss Wong and co. seem rich and powerfull enough to build a bunch of mechas. Only the magic particle drives and the plasma sword seem really abnormal pieces of tech. It would also explain why they hire a crazy kid like Setsuna...

Not likely, an organisation that was more than 100 years old would have some elders. Wong would be important, but she can't be the only Head.

Lots of resources? Inevitably.

Good will? We haven't got any proof the organisation heads were even sincere.

Very little common sense? It depend on what they were actually trying to do, which may have next to nothing in common with what they say they do, or even what the Gundam pilots think they do.

[CrisisDarkerXIV]

Does Celestial Being say anything about killing people? Because in the first episode, they were just shooting off limbs and stuff.

[Duo Maxwell]

At first, they just want to warning, so they avoid killing. In ep 2, they start their operation, and no mercy this time onward.