2004-12-13, 11:59 | Link #1 |
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[Manga] Chapter 42 : The Father Before the Grave
Okay, done and done. Before anyone gripes about the names used, refer to the official name thread and the explanation within the manga
Commence the reading as the adventure continues... Is he that person or is he not... Chapter 42 : The Father Before the Grave |
2004-12-13, 13:52 | Link #2 |
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I don't get Hohenheim, so he knows Ed's a well known alchemist. How can he just let his kids run around like that? & he just talks to Ed like everything's ok. This guy is sooooo weird. Calling Ed the "smallest alchemist" & the way he doesn't listen to Ed was funny though. I don't think Hohenheim is that person, but I think they're related somehow. & I think his warning to Pinako is about the opening of the Gate. |
2004-12-14, 01:23 | Link #5 | |
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Of course Hohenheim acts suprised at news of Trisha's death so it is most likely the latter unless he was merely pretending to be suprised. The most interesting part of this chapter was when Hohenheim was talking about what Ed and Al created. At the bottom of tha page, we have a front view of Hohenheim's face and Hohenheim seems to be turned slightly to look back at the room Edward is in. Almost if Hohenheim mentioned the possibility that Ed and Al failed completely merely because he wanted Edward to hear it. Obviously, something you hear when you don't think the speakers know you're listening is often given more credibility then something you are told. Given Edward's initial reaction to Hohenheim, Hohenheim might have thought it best to share that bit of information in a way that Edward would have trouble not listening too. And it isn't like Hohenheim would really need to ask Pinako about the body would he? If he had doubts about Ed and Al's attempts without even knowing exactly how they went about the transmutation, it seems likely that he has some higher knowledge about the process. How else would he know that something would likely have been 'off' with the body? Would he really need Pinako to confirm his beliefs? |
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2004-12-14, 01:56 | Link #6 | |
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As for Hohemheim's reaction to his wife's death. Even if he isn't Father/Pride then I feel he was alliances with him/them. I think he knew of his wife's sickness, and was looking for a cure. Not only that, but the way she remained loyal and his words in this chapter that she knew he was doing that for her, but kept it a secret. Odds are through the philospher's stone, thus human translation, which being heavily frowned upon she kept secret. If his is Father/Pride then he has his underlings looking for that reason. His one book seems to have a circle similar to that in the ruins Edward saw. Of course being Father/Pride would make him greatly older than he appears. It is possible that he was already working on the Philospher's Stone and had fallen in love with a normal human, Trisha, complicating his plans. |
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2004-12-14, 02:23 | Link #7 |
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This chapter me convinced that Hohenheim is the Father. Not only only because of his appearance, but also because of the warning he gives to Pinako. Also, it seems like he knew Trisha was ill, and he left to find her a cure. He probably returned to tell her he was close to finding it. He isn't such a bad guy after all And I'm pretty sure that he's one of the Western Sages, and that he can somehow increase his life-span using alchemy. It makes sense. Ling's story was nice, he's royalty ^^ I think Mei Chan is also a daughter of the emperor, and I really hope she and Ling will meet soon. It could turn out pretty funny I'm looking forward to the next chapter. Looks like it's going to be very interesting, especially with what happened in the end of this chapter, with Dr. Marcoh. Looks like the homunculus are leading Roy on the path to using Human Transmutation to help Havoc. And of course, I really hope that Ed decides to return to Central and meets Mei chan on the way. She's an awesome character, and I want her to play a major role in the story. And I also want to see more of her alchemy, it's pretty cool. |
2004-12-14, 16:06 | Link #8 | |
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by the way, how do you pronounce the dad's name?? hoy hen hem???? |
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2004-12-14, 18:14 | Link #9 |
manga psycho ^_^
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I think the book that Father was looking at is from volume 8. There's a small sketch of what looks like the sun, circles etc. @_@
As for Van Hohenheim Ehrlich, I think his name is pronounce Hoe Hen Hime. I agree. Hohenheim definitely knew Ed was listening in on his conversation with Pinako. This guy doesn't dance around anything, he gets straight to the point. & since he seems to know Ed's personality pretty well, he knows Ed wouldn't listen if he told him to his face. Still, ouch! It may be the truth, but it must hurt Ed like crazy. I wonder if he'll tell Al? Afterall, this does mean they sacrificed a lot, for practically nothing. One thing though, when Ed saw "truth," he said he probably needed to go back one more time, & that their human transmutation wasn't completely wrong, just lacking in some things. Which makes me wonder if we'll ever know if Ed & Al really brought Trisha back. I also wonder if Hohenheim needs a circle to do alchemy. It'd be interesting if he also saw "truth," & can just clap his hands together. I supposed Pride could be Hohenheim. Because Wrath can produce a son, why not Pride? But, in the beginning, Roy was in the country looking for Hohenheim. If Hohenheim was Pride, then wouldn't Wrath just ask him to be a state alchemist himself? Why have Roy go ask? It seems Greed was the only sin to have runaway. Pride is still with them. |
2004-12-14, 22:08 | Link #10 | |
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