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Andarkoshi · 2013-04-16, 01:58

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Originally Posted by Filraen

I disagree: having he whole misunderstanding of the TSAB and the Materials going too far with the only person who can be a bridge as negotiator being transported off-planet and sedated. And then we have the remains of a mild mind control spell to be detected (just think on the Aces' reaction) and even when the Materials want to redeem themselves they have their devices who control them and make them forget.

At this point it isn't fun anymore, and it doesn't look it's going to get better soon.

(Note: I want this story to continue to get again to fun and funny parts)

Ah sorry, I just woke up and didn't put together you were talking about Material Days [slaps his face] Sorry
Yes that kind of situation is not good for Materials...

bhl88 · 2013-04-16, 04:11

Well at least... You know what... Stern should explain.

Andarkoshi · 2013-04-16, 04:30

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Originally Posted by bhl88

Well at least... You know what... Stern should explain.

Yeah "If you want a simple explanation, ask Stern"

Filraen · 2013-04-16, 05:15

Except Stern Seikou honored Yuuno's request by asking once already and honestly she doesn't want to talk anymore.

Sunder the Gold · 2013-04-16, 05:19

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Originally Posted by vic-vic

Then, could we expect something like this:

Genya: My little baby daughter were kidnapped! I must save her!!

Charge into spaciouc warehouse where stood many different futuristic-looking tanks.

Genya: Let's go my friend, Maximillian! *Pat one of tanks foundly with blaze in his eyes*

*sometime after that incident is resolved*

Subaru: Dad, I know you're very upset about having your tank stolen, but...

Genya: But nothing! When one of my babies was kidnapped, I rode another baby into battle to save her! Now it's time for you to return the favor! Roll out!

*Subaru glumly speeds down the road, with her father sitting on her shoulders, arms crossed in Absolute Seriousness*

Genya: I'm coming, Maximillian!

Andarkoshi · 2013-04-16, 05:37

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Originally Posted by Sunder the Gold

*sometime after that incident is resolved*

Subaru: Dad, I know you're very upset about having your tank stolen, but...

Genya: But nothing! When one of my babies was kidnapped, I rode another baby into battle to save her! Now it's time for you to return the favor! Roll out!

*Subaru glumly speeds down the road, with her father sitting on her shoulders, arms crossed in Absolute Seriousness*

Genya: I'm coming, Maximillian!

Give him a big rifle or a rocket launcher, he'll serve as Subaru's shoulder cannon XD

novalysis · 2013-04-16, 05:42

Has anyone ever tried to do a fanfic attempting to explore the briefly shown incident where Nanoha almost died and spent a long time recovering, when she was 12?

It could be a fic that starts off light hearted for the first few chapters, revolving around the adventures of Rein Zwei in her first months of existence. Then, the PoV is gradually switched to Nanoha, as the events building up to the ill-fated mission unfold, as well as signs of Nanoha over-pushing herself.

The fic goes moderately serious, but not too dark. And, after a few chapters where Nanoha's PoV almost completely dominates the narrative, the incident occurs, and Nanoha's POV chapters end with her getting skewed by that drone.

After that, during Nanoha's rehablitation phase, the PoV focus switches to Fate Testarossa, and to a lesser extent, Hayate Yagami. The fic covers the entire of Nanoha's recovery period and focuses on the fallout, until Nanoha reaches the point where she could have a real training duel with Fate Testarossa again. As Nanoha get's better, the PoV shifts back to her, and how the incident shaped her Striker S self. The fic will end where it begins - on the same light-hearted tone of the first few chapters, but with a Nanoha clearly closer to her Striker S self than her A's characterization.

Except for a few cross-overs, I have not seen a pure fic set in the Nanoha-verse attempting to flash out what had to be at least three or four season worth of material between A's and Striker S.

Andarkoshi · 2013-04-16, 05:55

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Originally Posted by novalysis

Has anyone ever tried to do a fanfic attempting to explore the briefly shown incident where Nanoha almost died and spent a long time recovering, when she was 12?

It could be a fic that starts off light hearted for the first few chapters, revolving around the adventures of Rein Zwei in her first months of existence. Then, the PoV is gradually switched to Nanoha, as the events building up to the ill-fated mission unfold, as well as signs of Nanoha over-pushing herself.

The fic goes moderately serious, but not too dark. And, after a few chapters where Nanoha's PoV almost completely dominates the narrative, the incident occurs, and Nanoha's POV chapters end with her getting skewed by that drone.

After that, during Nanoha's rehablitation phase, the PoV focus switches to Fate Testarossa, and to a lesser extent, Hayate Yagami. The fic covers the entire of Nanoha's recovery period and focuses on the fallout, until Nanoha reaches the point where she could have a real training duel with Fate Testarossa again. As Nanoha get's better, the PoV shifts back to her, and how the incident shaped her Striker S self. The fic will end where it begins - on the same light-hearted tone of the first few chapters, but with a Nanoha clearly closer to her Striker S self than her A's characterization.

Except for a few cross-overs, I have not seen a pure fic set in the Nanoha-verse attempting to flash out what had to be at least three or four season worth of material between A's and Striker S.

Well it's more part of my own continuity than canon but it kinda shows the incident and Vita's initial reaction to it.

I'm planning to expand that part of my story, though with certain modifications because Nanoha and Vita have a... strained relationship because of what happened during A's

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...80#post4623880

novalysis · 2013-04-16, 06:57

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Originally Posted by Andarkoshi

Well it's more part of my own continuity than canon but it kinda shows the incident and Vita's initial reaction to it.

I'm planning to expand that part of my story, though with certain modifications because Nanoha and Vita have a... strained relationship because of what happened during A's

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...80#post4623880

You might want to cover what happens before the incident too...

Andarkoshi · 2013-04-16, 07:00

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Originally Posted by novalysis

You might want to cover what happens before the incident too...

Well as I said it will be part of the continuity so I'll have the whole story there.

Also this incident was what set Nanoha on the course of becoming an Instructor. After she recovered from her injuries and began rehabilitation she was asked if she could give some lectures on combat.

While the students were initially surprised (a small girl in a wheelchair giving lectures) they quickly started to respect her and she began to like teaching others.

vic-vic · 2013-04-16, 07:21

Interesting, how Stern reacted to Nanoha injury, after being adopted by Takamachi family?

Judging by her strong bomding with her sisters I can imagine her plowing through Gadget drome armada lika a nuclear powered bulldozer in serach of mastermind behind the attack.

Andarkoshi · 2013-04-16, 07:31

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Originally Posted by vic-vic

Interesting, how Stern reacted to Nanoha injury, after being adopted by Takamachi family?

Judging by her strong bomding with her sisters I can imagine her plowing through Gadget drome armada lika a nuclear powered bulldozer in serach of mastermind behind the attack.

That... remains to be seen...

Sunder the Gold · 2013-04-16, 18:04

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Originally Posted by Andarkoshi

Mhm I wonder about the bit of not working for TSAB unless Hayate did. The way I understood it was that they'd happily work for TSAB (as long as Hayate's safety was ensured) to atone for all the things they have done in the past.

But that would divide their loyalties.

If they're taking orders directly from the TSAB, they can be assigned to places away from Hayate, sent on missions other than the ones on which Hayate is sent.

There would be situations in which a Wolkenritter is not guarding their Master. Which is unacceptable.

Letti very specifically stepped in as their sponsor to ensure that the band wouldn't get broken up, and I have to wonder if she was part of Hayate's legal counsel.

That is, Letti might have suggested -- and helped to make succeed -- the plan to have Hayate take primary responsiblity for the Wolkenritter's actions and recieve the lion's share of the punishment.

This doesn't necessarily require making the case that the Wolkenritter can't be considered independent people. It could make the case that the Wolkenritter are NOT YET READY to function as independent people. They hail from a fuedal culture and have spent an inhumanly long time as slaves to the Book and its Masters, so it will be quite some time before they can be rehabilitated into proper TSAB citizens.

Therefore, they cannot be treated as modern criminals are; a solution must be tailor-made to such a unique case as theirs.

The TSAB must accept that the Wolkenritter won't react well if forced to divide their loyalties, and that the TSAB must therefore be content to control the Wolkenritter through their Master.

In turn, this means that Hayate effectively becomes a hostage. Not in the sense of incarceration, but in the sense that she MUST have a sponsor, she will be watched, her freedoms will be (theoretically if not effectively) restricted, and she'll be right beside the Wolkenritter in recieving a Limiter to her Linker Core and Devices, which the TSAB can use at any time to shut her down. The TSAB will hold her especially responsible and accountable for the Wolkenritters' rehabilitation and their future actions.

But in return, the TSAB will trust Hayate enough to let her to keep and command all of the Wolkenritter, and even to continue living on Earth as a family while she finishes Japan's mandatory public schooling.

The Wolkenritter won't be happy about the hostage situation, of course, but it's not a perfect world. It's the least terrible solution, and if they don't like it, the only feasible solution is to prove as quickly as possible that the TSAB doesn't need to fear them and therefore doesn't need to hold Hayate hostage against their good behavior.

And ironically, one of the surest ways of showing that would be to move away from their sole loyalty to Hayate by joining the TSAB as independents, answering to a chain of command that doesn't include their Master. Which is something they can eventually bring themselves to do.

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Originally Posted by Filraen

I disagree: having he whole misunderstanding of the TSAB and the Materials going too far with the only person who can be a bridge as negotiator being transported off-planet and sedated. And then we have the remains of a mild mind control spell to be detected (just think on the Aces' reaction) and even when the Materials want to redeem themselves they have their devices who control them and make them forget.

At this point it isn't fun anymore, and it doesn't look it's going to get better soon.

(Note: I want this story to continue to get again to fun and funny parts)

But was it really always a comedy? Or a drama with comedic moments?

If it's a comedy, the author let the story get too serious. If it's a drama, then the scene in which the Materials declare war on the TSAB -- and the scenes in which the situation gets riled up further -- are probably too comedic.

Andarkoshi · 2013-04-17, 02:07

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Originally Posted by Sunder the Gold

But that would divide their loyalties.

I agree however there is one little fact you must include. Wolkenritter don't really have any say in all of this. For all intents and purposes they ARE convicted criminals and the best thing they can hope for is the leniency of the court.

Obviously considering the circumstances Hayate and her knights would not be treated Too harshly but the fact remains that they are at TSAB's mercy.

From what I remember there was one line by Hayate or maybe one of the knights which went somewhat like this "Fortunately they let us stay together". I interpret it more or less that they were all prepared for the punishment and accepted it (maybe except Vita who was the closest to Hayate) but TSAB was merciful and allowed them to stay.

While Wolkies treat Hayate as their priority they also accept the fact that they are pretty much war criminals and they don't have much say regarding their situation.

Essentially, they might have been ready to serve their time in jail actually. I may be exaggerating but that's the way I see it.

Also regarding the "Legal Guardian" I think it's some kind of legal standard in TSAB. Pretty much any redeemable criminal is given a representative from TSAB like Lindy for Fate or Letti for Wolkenritter. It's probably like ours "You have the right to an attorney". Ginga Might be considered one for the Numbers actually since she was responsible for their reeducation.

speedyexpress48 · 2013-04-17, 02:49

An old idea I had lying in a word document for a while (a version of La Femme Nikita with Nanoha as the main character and with the TSAB as a US-Gov operation gone rogue.)

Not exactly my best work, but I really do wonder if I should continue with this or just dump it...

Spoiler for long:

Andarkoshi · 2013-04-17, 03:18

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Originally Posted by speedyexpress48

An old idea I had lying in a word document for a while (a version of La Femme Nikita with Nanoha as the main character and with the TSAB as a US-Gov operation gone rogue.)

Not exactly my best work, but I really do wonder if I should continue with this or just dump it...

Is it wrong that I see Jail sitting on a sofa, grinning with his hands in Gendo Position with Cinque and Nove in Badass Suits and Cool Shades standing to his sides as bodyguards?

"Why of course Takamachi-san, I can offer you the information you need but it Will cost you"

Edit. On second thought make that Tre and Sette, they are far more impressive.

Mr Coin · 2013-04-17, 10:36

I was away from this thread for a few days only to see it good and alive again upon my return. Just what kind of sorcery? Does any Nasuvian sorcerer got a say to this?

Andarkoshi · 2013-04-17, 11:18

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Originally Posted by Mr Coin

I was away from this thread for a few days only to see it good and alive again upon my return. Just what kind of sorcery? Does any Nasuvian sorcerer got a say to this?

I deny any responsibility,. I may have come from Nasu oriented forum but I'm just a humble Eldritch Abomination looking for home and people to mind rape.

Andarkoshi · 2013-04-17, 15:04

I promised to wait until I have the whole chapter done but... it got big... really big...

So for now just a little piece.

Spoiler for Cuddle Buddies:

Filraen · 2013-04-17, 15:16

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Originally Posted by Andarkoshi: Cuddle Buddies

“Yeah, me and Stern and Dearche got adopted by three families back on Earth. Stern is a Takamachi, I’m a Testarossa and King is a Yagami but you wouldn’t catch her dead calling herself that Hehe. Well it’s mostly symbolic though because we rarely spend time with them.”

Erm..

*tries to find words*

Hmm..

*feels awkward*

...

I... know the Material wouldn't make a fuss over it but why give Levi the Testarossa last name? Shouldn't Harlaown be a better choice?

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bhl88 Otaku Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Unseen Horizon	Well at least... You know what... Stern should explain. __________________ OS-tan Collections (temporary): https://discord.gg/Hv2rBs3

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speedyexpress48 Boo, you whore Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Smokin that CO bong	An old idea I had lying in a word document for a while (a version of La Femme Nikita with Nanoha as the main character and with the TSAB as a US-Gov operation gone rogue.) Not exactly my best work, but I really do wonder if I should continue with this or just dump it... Spoiler for long: My name’s Nanoha Takamachi. I work as the director of an Japanese idol group in Los Angeles, but I have another role. I was a mage and an undercover agent working for the UN. The government gave me the role of lieutenant commander for the Time-Space Administration Bureau, a secret organization formed of government agents and recruited criminals to counter and control terrorism…globally and universally. Then the general who was in charge of the operation, Regius Gaiz, had a fallout with the government, and the operation went rogue. I got the hell out, along with my partner, Fate Testarossa. Chrono Harlown, a man who I once had under my command, is now out to kill me in any way possible. Fortunately, I have a mole. Someone who I can trust to take down the TSAB from the inside. __________ Fate stood behind the armored door and watched the clock. Sixty…sixty-one…sixty-two. Sixty two minutes. The garage was heavily secured, and few people knew how to enter it. Only Coyote’s biggest customers had access to the tightly-secured area. Intruders would have to hack a well-encrypted network of traps, and so far none have succeeded in breaking them. Coyote went to the camera room and took a look at every screen. Nope. Not here yet. Suddenly, a bright yellow sports car pulled up onto the driveway. Ah. A young woman got out of the car and walked up to the door. A screen placed beside the door lit up. “Your fingerprint , ma’m.” The young woman put her finger on the screen. “Thank you.” The door opened. Fate stood at the front door and greeted Nanoha. "Mr. Howler is inside his office and will be with you shortly.” “Thanks, Fate.” Howler went down the stairs and bowed. “Ms. Takamachi. It’s a pleasure to be doing business with you again.” “Oh yes. I see that you have…remodeled the house, so to speak.” Nanoha stared at the row of automatic machine guns hanging on the walls. Howler replied. “Ah, yes. It’s nicer if you display your merchandise in front for all your customers to see.” Nanoha looked around. “Follow me, Ms. Takamachi.” Nanoha followed Fate and Howler into a dark corridor that led into a laboratory. A large, long staff sat on top of a glass case, the type used to display jewelry and expensive weapons. “Raising Heart is ready, Ms. Takamachi. I upgraded it with the most advanced magic technology and software ever created.” “How advanced, exactly?” “Well, let’s just say this. Even the United States Military couldn’t get their hands on this technology. But I have connections.” Nanoha went up to the glass case and grabbed the staff. “Raising Heart, set up!” Raising Heart replied. “Yes, master.” “Now about our deal, Ms. Takamachi.” Howler pulled out an AK-47 and aimed it at Nanoha’s head. “You see, Ms. Takamachi, your corpse is worth more than anything you can offer me.” Nanoha nodded for a second and replied. “Oh, indeed. All of your other customers want my head. Rather unfortunate, but that’s how business works. Too bad your customers will only get a cheap replacement product. For example, look behind you.” Fate took out a pistol and aimed it at the back of Howler’s head. “Uh-” Nanoha grabbed a flame thrower and aimed it at Howler. “New deal. You give me Raising Heart, I keep you alive. For now.” “Uh…you-you’re not gonna kill me?” “No, you’re worth something to me. It’s not like I can’t easily replace you; I can. But-” Fate pulls the trigger and takes out Howler. Nanoha nodded again. “Too bad, really. He could have really benefited from our contract.” “Yeah, I mean, I really liked working for him. But, with all that being said, he had to die. Sad. So Nanoha, any progress yet?” “I wish,” Nanoha replied. “Looks like Kogar Uhasdov gets released from prison today. Regius is going to be there, for sure. Perfect chance to take him down.” “And Chrono follows him like a dog,” Fate remarked. Nanoha sighed. “True. And he’s after my corpse too. Still…this is my best shot.” Nanoha started to walk away until Fate grabbed her hand. “I can’t…I..can’t…afford…to…lose…you…again.” Nanoha sighed. “Follow me. We gotta get out. Again.” __________________ Your Friendly Bitcoin Trader\|Go Avs/Broncos Last edited by speedyexpress48; 2013-04-17 at 04:03.

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Andarkoshi Resident Tentacle Monster Join Date: Apr 2013	I promised to wait until I have the whole chapter done but... it got big... really big... So for now just a little piece. Spoiler for Cuddle Buddies: The three of them sat at the table munching on the sandwiches prepared by Stern. While the brunette ate peacefully and without much hurry the two blueheads didn’t eat so much as devoured their meals. “This is really good Stern-san!” The girl told the calmer of the women with a smile. “I’m glad you like it.” “If you think that’s good you should try some of King’s Cooking. And then there is the stuff our adoptive fathers make. Those things are out of this world” The bluehaired girl said with worship and awe in her voice as drool formed in the corner of her mouth. Subaru perked up at that, although it wasn’t food she was curious about. “Adopted?” “Yeah, me and Stern and Dearche got adopted by three families back on Earth. Stern is a Takamachi, I’m a Testarossa and King is a Yagami but you wouldn’t catch her dead calling herself that Hehe. Well it’s mostly symbolic though because we rarely spend time with them.” “So... so you are like me and Gin-ne” “What do you mean Subaru?” Stern asked curiously from her end of the table. “Me and Gin-ne are adopted too, we aren’t really Nakajima children.” “Really? What are your parents like?” Levi asked curiously as she eyed the girl. “It’s just Otou-san now... Okaa-san went on a mission once and... she didn’t return” The girl said sadly, Stern glanced at Levi with a hint of accusation in her look. “But... But I bet your Dad has double the love for you and your sister!” “Yes, Dad loves us very much but he is often very busy at work.” “Hmm I see. Well we’ll do him a favour and have you over for the night. How do you like that?” Levi asked as she jumped over to where Subaru was and hugged her, startling the girl slightly. “I don’t mind... I can’t return home if father isn’t here after all” “Yeah so we’ll have ourselves a little pajama party! And I’ll make you my Cuddle Buddy” “Cuddle Buddy? What is that?” Subaru asked the enthusiastic Material curiously. “It’s when you really like someone and want to Hug them all the time. Cuddle Buddies are the best of buddies that will come running when you are in trouble and will give you a hug. And beat the snot out of anything that is after you. How do you like that? Wanna be my Cuddle Buddy?” Subaru nodded with a smile and Levi hugged her all the more because of that.

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Filraen Big Damn Lurker Join Date: Feb 2011	Except Stern Seikou honored Yuuno's request by asking once already and honestly she doesn't want to talk anymore.

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novalysis Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	Has anyone ever tried to do a fanfic attempting to explore the briefly shown incident where Nanoha almost died and spent a long time recovering, when she was 12? It could be a fic that starts off light hearted for the first few chapters, revolving around the adventures of Rein Zwei in her first months of existence. Then, the PoV is gradually switched to Nanoha, as the events building up to the ill-fated mission unfold, as well as signs of Nanoha over-pushing herself. The fic goes moderately serious, but not too dark. And, after a few chapters where Nanoha's PoV almost completely dominates the narrative, the incident occurs, and Nanoha's POV chapters end with her getting skewed by that drone. After that, during Nanoha's rehablitation phase, the PoV focus switches to Fate Testarossa, and to a lesser extent, Hayate Yagami. The fic covers the entire of Nanoha's recovery period and focuses on the fallout, until Nanoha reaches the point where she could have a real training duel with Fate Testarossa again. As Nanoha get's better, the PoV shifts back to her, and how the incident shaped her Striker S self. The fic will end where it begins - on the same light-hearted tone of the first few chapters, but with a Nanoha clearly closer to her Striker S self than her A's characterization. Except for a few cross-overs, I have not seen a pure fic set in the Nanoha-verse attempting to flash out what had to be at least three or four season worth of material between A's and Striker S.

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vic-vic Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: forge-world Moscow 1 Age: 37	Interesting, how Stern reacted to Nanoha injury, after being adopted by Takamachi family? Judging by her strong bomding with her sisters I can imagine her plowing through Gadget drome armada lika a nuclear powered bulldozer in serach of mastermind behind the attack.

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Mr Coin Heads or Tails? Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Under a pebble Age: 32	I was away from this thread for a few days only to see it good and alive again upon my return. Just what kind of sorcery? Does any Nasuvian sorcerer got a say to this?