2012-08-25, 03:33 | Link #481 | |
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And about her powers. Madoka wished many different things in different timelines, not always saving the cat, yet she always had the same powers (at least her main weapons) so I don't know how much a wish affects a magical girl's power after all. Besides, Homura's power in the new world resembles Madoka's only in that she uses a bow, but she also has wings, which Madoka didn't have. Plus there's also that special attack, corrosive wings, which I'm pretty sure is not normal. So yeah, I think she's quite the freak magical girl myself. But that's what makes her so awesome so it's all good.
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2012-08-25, 04:46 | Link #482 | ||
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Homura, regardless of what her wish might be in this timeline, is certainly doing that intent. She is living out Madoka's wish of saving the world at her own expense. So that is what she becomes. As for the wings? Well, we don't really know what Madoka was capable of. She MIGHT'VE had wings. How much screentime do we really have of her as a Puella Magi, honestly? But even if she DIDN'T, I don't think it matters, because her magic is still evoking Madoka, who is a divine being. She has wings because she is modeling herself after a quite literal angel, by this point. And magic certainly doesn't care about your notions of linear causality. As for the corrosive wings, my personal thought on that was an idiosyncrasy. Soul Gems fill up with despair. When they fill up with despair, Magical Girls meet Madoka. Homura knows this, and meeting Madoka is her ultimate hope. Therefore, she can never fall into despair. Therefore, instead, her Soul Gem empties out her Grief in the form of a badass attack. Yea boi.
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2012-08-25, 16:10 | Link #484 |
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It probably won't; the series doesn't really go into the mechanics of magic very much, but it does seem to have a semantic tie to their wish. Mami, for example, is canonically said to have her ribbon power because she wished to live. Because her wish reaffirms her 'ties to life', this is reflected by ribbons she can tie thing with.
Not that she actually used the words "tied to life" in her wish, according to the PSP. Which means the logic of the wish goes beyond the exact wording.
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2012-08-25, 18:50 | Link #486 |
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The problem is the ending of the story throws a lot of stuff out that isn't explained. How can Homura remember everything? Why can Madoka's brother remember her? How can Homura hear Madoka at the end? This completely contradicts Kyubey's statements that Madoka would be completely erased from existence. What is the true miracle Madoka spoke of?
I'm of the opinion that the ending was made with no thought to a possible continuation of the story, so it will be interesting to see how Gen continues it in the third movie. The only thing I'm fairly certain of is that Homura was not turning into a Witch at the end. Oh and Madoka did have wings in her ultimate form. This is depicted in both the anime and in promotional art/merchandise. Homura's new powers are a direct rip of Madoka's.
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2012-08-25, 19:05 | Link #487 |
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That's interesting. Madoka did have wings, yes, but only in her ultimate form, when she was a lot more powerful than in her early incarnations. So it can be assumed that, since Homura has wings in the new world, she's also more powerful than she was before. Well, considering her corrosive wings attack it's pretty much a fact that she's stronger, but anyway...
The question is, why is she more powerful? We know the power of a magical girl is dictated by her karma, so it would be interesting to see if Gen can explain how Homura got her new powers and how it relates to her karma in the new world. I think it would be a waste to make a movie centered on Homura and not addressing all this stuff. I want to know!!
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And Kyubey doesn't know how magic works. He only has empirical experience to work off of and there's no precedent for what Madoka did. Everything else can simply be Madoka having an ephemeral, spiritual presence in her world. Quote:
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2012-08-26, 07:41 | Link #490 |
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Well...
I think Homura became the new pinnacle for threads of fate after Madoka created a new universe.
I have the idea that the third movie is a role reversal from the original story, in that sense, the forces of evil are encroaching Homura and Madoka needs to save her soul or the universe will be plunged into a nightmare. |
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2012-08-27, 11:05 | Link #499 |
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it was a drama cd, the one that said that madoka saved ami, if you mean homura saving ami , that's not canon, is just something aura wished, as said by her post.
Is there a place with specualtions/discussion on how homura time travelling works ? since it seems to be more of a universe hoping instead of time reset, so it seems to be closer to higurashi than to back to the future. |
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