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Old 2013-02-04, 14:05   Link #1141
Randrak42
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Wait are you talking about EX? I'm not sure how it works since I haven't really used it, I was talking about in the original.
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Old 2013-02-04, 14:06   Link #1142
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Wait are you talking about EX? I'm not sure how it works since I haven't really used it, I was talking about in the original.
Yes I'm talking about EX. But I assume it'll be the same.

Okay it's not the same, but I am pretty sure this is because of my English patch, since it uses SEEN from the original LB (or does it? I see untranslated lines in the common route so maybe it's not the original LB SEEN, it's the EX SEEN??) in which you can't possibly play Refrain on a fresh install... But if anyone has the English patch and knows how to do this, could they help me out? Thanks!

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Old 2013-02-05, 02:44   Link #1143
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Spoiler for Haruka's Route:



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Spoiler for Haruka's Route:
I just read a good portion of her route lately. It gave a lot of background on what happened in their childhood and how things became how they are now.
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Old 2013-02-06, 10:42   Link #1144
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Use a save file and save yourself the trouble ?
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Old 2013-02-06, 12:10   Link #1145
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I just read a good portion of her route lately. It gave a lot of background on what happened in their childhood and how things became how they are now.
Spoiler for Kanata's Motivations (Kanata Route):
Coincidentally reread Kanata's route recently, just adding a portion about the hair ornamentsthey were talking about:
(note: the discussion with their parents was only with their Father. Their mother was bed ridden at that time).
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That said, I must have missed a detail but...
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Suffice to say, reading it again, I think this route is definitely a mandatory read in order to flesh out both characters and give proper answers to everything that had occured in the past. The only problem of that route is how longwinded it can be (not as "beating around the bush" as Haruka's however), and the conclusion is a bit "too easy" but fits quite well the series, whereas Haruka's route was a tad... too disconnected from the LB in general.
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Old 2013-02-06, 12:26   Link #1146
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The adults in that house should just all end up in hell
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Old 2013-02-06, 13:05   Link #1147
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Use a save file and save yourself the trouble ?
The trouble comes in having to replay the whole game again just to play Refrain... my saves from when I completed it are on a computer I don't have anymore.
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Old 2013-02-06, 13:21   Link #1148
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Use the save file from the internet,google it.
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Old 2013-02-06, 13:27   Link #1149
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It is not pressing enough for me to do that, I was just wondering if there is a way to play Refrain if you answer "Yes" to the beginning question. And anyway, shouldn't Key have put in some mechanism to play Refrain again if you answer "Yes"? Because otherwise you would have to play through all seven girls' routes again, but I doubt that is possible because afaik Rin 1 is forever locked when you complete it and would the game still keep count of whose routes you finished after you complete the whole original game?? Seems like a waste when Rin 2, the rest of the girls, and the new heroines you can get right off the bat by answering "Yes".

But thank you for your help, I see what you are doing.
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Old 2013-02-06, 14:11   Link #1150
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Oh, so I remembered the "pretends became reals" from Kanata's route? Yeah...come to think of it I did finish her route first in playing EX before stopping.
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Old 2013-02-06, 15:16   Link #1151
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Spoiler for Summary of a portion of what happens in Kanata's route:


Spoiler for Full Kanata background story leading to up to what is in the present:


I'll edit this later once I have time to write the rest lol....
I might have interpreted a few parts wrong.

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Old 2013-02-06, 15:26   Link #1152
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^ It is just more than that
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Old 2013-02-06, 16:09   Link #1153
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^ It is just more than that
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Yeah, I've yet to finish writing the rest of the route in Kanata's route. I just finished reading the part, but I have a question about the

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Old 2013-02-06, 16:14   Link #1154
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^ that white scene huh?
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Old 2013-02-06, 17:50   Link #1155
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^ that white scene huh?
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Old 2013-02-06, 18:00   Link #1156
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Spoiler for End of Kanata's route:


With everything witness so far, I feel even more annoyed that
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Old 2013-02-06, 21:47   Link #1157
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Old 2013-02-06, 22:08   Link #1158
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With everything witness so far, I feel even more annoyed that
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Old 2013-02-09, 02:10   Link #1159
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Just wanted to ask if Ecstasy is now fully translated? I haven't played the first game yet but ecstasy adds 3 more heroines so i decided i'll try this one instead.
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Old 2013-02-09, 02:13   Link #1160
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Just wanted to ask if Ecstasy is now fully translated? I haven't played the first game yet but ecstasy adds 3 more heroines so i decided i'll try this one instead.
From what I know, two routes out of three have been translated. The third one is pretty long, though, so it might be a little longer before the full patch is released. I'd recommend just playing the original, and moving on to EX when it's out. You can effectively skip to the new material then.
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