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#3 is the only issue.
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2008-12-03, 18:19 | Link #1102 | |
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And for 3, they could use scapegoat , if they are involved
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2008-12-03, 18:28 | Link #1103 |
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Shadow Minato, I demand an immediate apology from you to India for all those terrorist attacks. Only then will I believe you were not involved in said attacks.
And by the way, for the record, I must myself apologize for those attacks I didn't order, help, participate in, knew of beforehand or had anything to do with. |
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And regarding the cooperation between Pakistan and India's investigation group, I didn't know about it, since I haven't been following the situation lately. Last edited by Shadow Kira01; 2008-12-03 at 20:02. Reason: added another quote |
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Won't be surprised to see a lake forming out of nowhere, in between India and Pakistan. |
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2008-12-03, 20:12 | Link #1106 |
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if i were India and is involve in a war pakistan and i got intelligence that pakistan were going to use nukes. i would nuke them first. i rather deal with the consquence of being the 2nd nation in the history to used a Nuke then being know as the 2nd nation in history to be Nuke.
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2008-12-03, 20:18 | Link #1108 | |
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On to another news article>
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Well, just keep this in mind. The PAD is made up of Bangkok's people, while the Thaksin parties are supported by the rural poor North. (Chiang Mai, etc WTF. |
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2008-12-03, 20:28 | Link #1109 | |
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i think Thaskin's party will win again not with as many votes as last time but all they have to do replay the speeches by the pad about how stupid the rural people are and they won't even need to make any campaign promise to get their vote.
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2008-12-03, 20:41 | Link #1110 | |
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Thaksin had a focus on the North, thus drawing resources away from Bangkok, and the PAD got fed-up and claimed to represent the people, when they merely represented Bangkok. Also, during Thaksin, there was much improvement in Thailand as a whole, so I think the PAD is just an empty vessel that is characteristically noisy. |
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2008-12-03, 20:41 | Link #1111 |
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Ya know.. it may only be rogue elements within the Pakistan government that supported the attack. The government is not monolithic.
(says the American who knows quite well that his own government has its own share of rogue elements that ignore public policy)
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2008-12-03, 20:53 | Link #1113 | |
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Japan is trying to move some administrative functions to Tama, which is the side of Tokyo that ISN'T the Tokyo people usually see (in other words, West Tokyo), but so far, it's not exactly very successful. Still, Malaysia did succeed in moving the administrative capital out of KL to Putrajaya. If there's anywhere that the capital can go to, I guess it'd be Chiang Mai, the capital city of North Thailand. |
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2008-12-03, 21:00 | Link #1115 |
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His accounts are frozen, remember?
Wait, if it's the government, then, yes, they can unfreeze his accounts. But still, to rebuild a capital half a day away from Bangkok will be a BIG headache. But the plus points are that Chiang Mai has a modern airport, better than Don Muang and of course, U-Tapao. The city is also modern, with some huge shopping malls nearer the airport, and the city's name is good too - "New City", literally. However, unlike Bangkok, which has the Bangkok Metro and Bangkok Skytrain, Chiang Mai does not have rapid transit public transport infrastructure. Another cost burden. |
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The city may or may not have decayed. But it wasn't very clean and nice and pretty to begin with. It's an archetypal developing country's metropolis kind of place -- huge, overcrowded, polluted, with the very rich and very poor, and immensely interesting. Or may be I'm just biased. Admittedly, much of Thailand's economy depends on the agricultural sector -- the rural area -- but if you remove Bangkok from the focus, you remove any chance for the country to move from being just a breadbasket to anything resembling a developing country (assumption = towards a more diverse economy). I definitely don't think a copy of the Burmese move is a good idea. Oh, sorry, Myanmar. Hah. Quote:
Mind, I don't have a high opinion of the PAD either. It's one thing to present their views in the public, it's another to cause repeated instability for cheap political gains. Of course, it's a country where Fareed Zakaria would no doubt call an "illiberal democracy," so it's not like the PAD is breaking new grounds in self-interested politics. If anything, I see the interventions of the military as a far worse setback for liberal democracy in Thailand than anything the PAD really did. Moreover, Chiang Mai as a new administrative capital? Are you really serious? It's the center for Northern Thailand, but note the keyword: Northern Thailand. Place it as the administrative capital, and you risk even more of the country being marginalized, or worse, further aggravating the already troubled South. That, and it's a mountainous region and an established city, an architectural nightmare for this sort of prestige/administrative city planning. If the Government of Thailand really wants to pull a Rio de Janeiro-to-Brazilia move, it is far better served by staying on the Central Plains. There's a historical precedent with such a move in King Narai's Lopburi, although anywhere would do. A return to Ayutthaya? Ha! Or Thaksin and his suppoters could just expand the Suvarnabhumi project. |
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Or better still, have an administrative capital for each region (North, Central, South), such that the government can move towards them if needed. |
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Rome, on the other hand, wasn't built in a day. Neither was Bangkok. You can't possibly argue that permanently marginalizing the country's epicenter just to get away from temporary instability is a good idea. Quote:
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The mounting opposition to Thaksin came before the PAD rises, remember. And I kind of witnessed a thing or two on it myself. An anecdote: the post-Asian economic crisis recovery boom produced three major phone companies in the Bangkok area market, two established and one rapidly growing. In a few years, Thaksin's company monopolized the market. Guess what happened to the service quality after that? You know it. Now multiply that to a whole slew of other industries. Short-term, makes industrial policy runs like a charm. The price? Long-term hellhole, and a country dependent on a single conglomerate. Quote:
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The presence of those ships for whatever reasons and from whatever country were not justified. And why Woodrow did not warn his fellow countrymen about the possible danger? In fact, he insisted that they had very right to do so. If you don't call that a deliberate provocation, I don't know what it is. Quote:
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^^(Irenicus) OK I understand your points, but I'm going to have to directly go into some points.
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In Germany, the largest religion is Lutheran Christianity. But one state, Bavaria, is Roman Catholic. It gets to keep that simply because it is a state that can control its own internal affairs. And the monarchy will still remain stable, like we see in UK, Australia and Canada. Therefore, I think it's OK. The other points, I feel you have good points, so I'm not touching them, unless I change my mind about your statements. |
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