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In other words, whatever feelings that Orb people may have about the decision, it wasn't enough to stop the government from following through with it, especially when you consider the possible threat of another invasion. |
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And even then they defected to Cagalli anyway.
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So it turns out there is difference between the Remaster that aired on TV / Youtube and the Blu ray version of the remaster. They reanimated even more shots.
Ow and Stargazer is also getting a Blu ray release.
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2013-01-30, 14:28 | Link #5785 |
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Just watched Stargazer. Man, I wish it had been a 12 episode anime. That was pretty good stuff. The romance at the end was a little tacked on but this kind of tragic side story brought back strong memories of War in the Pocket. That scene where they show the video of the kids calling for the death of all naturals was pretty chilling (and I liked how they actually did show that there were other terrorists).
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You're right. It's more than a hint. It's actually telling you.
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And I'm calling BS on it. I find the Orb's decision to abandon it's ideals to be contrived and out of character. But your answer to that is to say it's not out of character because it happened? That's begging the question.
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From his speech he made it clear that the biggest reason that Orb was about to be invaded was not solely because of the Earth Alliance but because of the greater war between ZAFT and the Earth Alliance and he sent Kusanagi to end that. He sent Kusanagi to end to deeper reason why Orb had been invaded. Quote:
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The people won't have such orders and whilst they obviously will be concerned about another invasion there should still be many that will be livid about the prospect of helping the Earth alliance. This is a country that, according to Lacus Clyne "is strong in ideals" and according to Uzumi has always preserved it's ideals through changing times. I can imagine a dent put in that, but not a a complete 180 reversal like this.
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1. The answer to your question of whether Orb has abandoned its ideals: Yes, Orb has joined the EA. 2. Your statement regarding it being out of character: It's not because governments change what amounts to a foreign policy (as you have admitted) for what they think would benefit their country better. Reevaluating your priorities is not BS. Otherwise people and societies will never change. Quote:
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Good stuff. I hope it also comes with remastered scenes as some action scenes in it (eps 3 in particular) look atrocious (due to budget I assume).
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In any case it doesn't even matter. The point here was that they're not interfering with a conflict that doesn't concern them, since it's this conflict that led to their country being invaded. Thus they were not breaking the third ideal. Quote:
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That means, the Kusanagi's only job should've been to fight the occupying AF force, not go into space fighting in other people's war. Quote:
And I've already given reasons why the people might agree, even grudgingly. If you're just going to call BS on that, well that's that. As far as the show and I are concerned, it's still Orb. Countries can change, especially after a defeat in war in their own territory. |
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1) Blame is focused to the external, not internal. They would focus blame on the Earth Alliance. 2) Orb still regained it's country after the war which should only empower them. 3) The ideals are integral to the nation: A point acknowledged by numerous characters and proven by their military. 4) The level of hatred for the Earth Alliance just two years after an invasion would be intense. The threat of another invasion would be something they might fear but not enough to blow away all the other factors: A complete 180 reversal is just unlikely.
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