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Kyero Fox · 2013-02-27, 01:15

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Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Presumably doubts that players would want to play as a woman in her late 40s/early 50s.

...so set it in WW2, perhaps?

If that 40 year old woman is THE BOSS? Yes, they would definaly want to play as her. She has better appeal and bad assery than Bayonetta imo.

Kyral · 2013-02-27, 08:08

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Originally Posted by DingoEnderZOE2

Excuse me???

Just theorising about taboos... nothing to see here... move along!

But well.. Wolf was born 1980... so I doubt she'll show up in that game anyway.

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Originally Posted by Wild Goose

...so set it in WW2, perhaps?

Could be possible. Kojima once said he plays with the idea for a Boss spin-off and showing how "The Joy" becomes the legendary mother of all special forces in WWII would be kinda nice.
And seeing the nature of the Metal Gear series... that would mean a lot of Those Wacky Nazis for Bosses...

Mad Pierrot · 2013-02-27, 08:32

What is the version from "Here's to You" used in the trailer. The others ones I've heard are less cheerful.

If this game has Foxhound we could even see young Solid Snake

Kyral · 2013-02-27, 09:07

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

What is the version from "Here's to You" used in the trailer. The others ones I've heard are less cheerful.

That's the original from Joan Baez from the 1971 movie "Sacco e Vanzetti".

The version from MGS4 is sung by Lisbeth Scott for the MGS4 OST.

Mad Pierrot · 2013-02-28, 17:57

Check it out. There is an official Metal Gear site in which fans can post their own images.
http://artstudio.metalgearsolid.com

Also about "Here's to You": It looks like the song was used when Kojima had the intention of killing Snake and Otacon at the end of Metal Gear Solid 4. The song was used in a documental named Sacco e Vanzetti. The story and song focus on two Italians named Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti who were executed in the United States during 1927 for a crime they never did. Sounds familiar, Saaco and Vanzetti are Solid Snake and Hal Emmerich turn themselves in for breaking the law, and subsequently they would be convicted and executed.

In the end this did not happen but Kojima once again used "Here's to You" in the trailer from Ground Zeroes so could this mean that Big Boss and Master Miller are Sacco and Vanzeti? Or maybe Chico and another character? This could be one of the reasons Kojima is afraid of the game not being released. It's a really dark scenario. Just food for thought.

Wild Goose · 2013-02-28, 21:52

If Ground Zeroes is still within the main MGS continuity, then Big Boss and Miller eventually return to the US and FOXHOUND, since MGS1 establishes Miller as FOXHOUND's chief survival instructor. He also finds love sometime along the way; IIRC Miller had a 15-year0old daughter whose fate is never conclusively mentioned. (I figure she was collateral damage when Liquid neutralised Miller.)

kenjiharima · 2013-03-01, 01:35

I'm awaiting the cloning of BigBoss that is the part of the story I really want to see.

SilverSyko · 2013-03-01, 02:12

FYI, that's already happened before Peace Walker.

The DNA taken from Big Boss for the Les Enfant Terribles Project happened in 1972, and the Peace Walker Incident occurred in 1974. Ground Zeroes apparently takes place after Peace Walker.

So unless they show it in flashback, getting to see Solid and Liquid being created is unlikely. However they're probably already in a childish state by the time of this game, so the chances of a cameo are there.

Mad Pierrot · 2013-03-27, 10:25

Today in the Game Developers Conference Kojima is supposed to reveal more information of Ground Zeroes and show us more about the Fox Engine. Heard there is also a new trailer.

Mad Pierrot · 2013-03-27, 14:48

So Ground Zeroes ended up being The Phantom Pain? I guess the two threads should be merged or something like that. God, I listed the same opinion in the two threads. It will look ridiculous XD

Dextro · 2013-03-27, 15:52

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

So Ground Zeroes ended up being The Phantom Pain? I guess the two threads should be merged or something like that. God, I listed the same opinion in the two threads. It will look ridiculous XD

I had no idea there was a thread for The Phantom Pain. I thought the internet was rather quick to debunk the trailer as a stunt for Metal Gear with the missing bits on the title fitting in with Metal Gear Solid 5.

But back on topic: there's a new trailer out and I must say that it left me completely and utterly hyped for the game. I wish I could play it right now.

YouTube

https://youtu.be/Hm6AeNT0Jqo

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Chaos2Frozen · 2013-03-27, 18:32

So... we probably should merge these two threads together huh...

Mad Pierrot · 2013-03-27, 18:56

Ground Zeroes is just the prologue to V. It's basically an early stage from the same game.

Kanon · 2013-03-27, 19:08

I bet literally nobody was surprised by the revelation Phantom pain was MGS. Is this really on PS360? This looks so good. They say the game is open world too.

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

Ground Zeroes is just the prologue to V. It's basically an early stage from the same game.

So the real subtitle of the game is the Phantom Pain then?

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-03-27, 19:36

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Originally Posted by Kanon

I bet literally nobody was surprised by the revelation Phantom pain was MGS. Is this really on PS360? This looks so good. They say the game is open world too.

It was a good-game that Kojima well-played

com_gwp · 2013-03-27, 19:40

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Originally Posted by Kanon

I bet literally nobody was surprised by the revelation Phantom pain was MGS. Is this really on PS360? This looks so good. They say the game is open world too.

Just one thing: Everything shown thus far was the fox engine running on PC at what I'm assuming is the engine's full capabilities, ergo, what we've seen it the trailer is probably a better representation of the (inevitable) next-gen console releases. No doubt there's scaling for PS360, but don't expect that next-gen shiny coat of paint we've been seeing.

Wild Goose · 2013-03-27, 19:45

Phantom Pain is somewhat meaningful, given that we have an FPS view of an amputated hand with a prosthetic hook-claw. In the medical world, Phantom Pain is used to describe the feelings and sensations of pain...

... from a non-existent amputated limb.

Looks interesting.

kenjiharima · 2013-03-27, 20:20

In the youtube vid HH gaming commented

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The game is split in 2 parts from the tiny info we got now, Snake got forced to wake up from coma while under medicine in the phantom pain parts (9 years later) so that might explain some of the weird wtf is that scenes

So is this 2 games?

Wild Goose · 2013-03-27, 20:38

More like Ground Zeroes is the prologue, while Phantom Pain is the main story.

kenjiharima · 2013-03-28, 03:19

Separate games guys

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/27...eparate-games/

2013-02-28, 17:57	Link #105
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	Check it out. There is an official Metal Gear site in which fans can post their own images. http://artstudio.metalgearsolid.com Also about "Here's to You": It looks like the song was used when Kojima had the intention of killing Snake and Otacon at the end of Metal Gear Solid 4. The song was used in a documental named Sacco e Vanzetti. The story and song focus on two Italians named Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti who were executed in the United States during 1927 for a crime they never did. Sounds familiar, Saaco and Vanzetti are Solid Snake and Hal Emmerich turn themselves in for breaking the law, and subsequently they would be convicted and executed. In the end this did not happen but Kojima once again used "Here's to You" in the trailer from Ground Zeroes so could this mean that Big Boss and Master Miller are Sacco and Vanzeti? Or maybe Chico and another character? This could be one of the reasons Kojima is afraid of the game not being released. It's a really dark scenario. Just food for thought. Last edited by Mad Pierrot; 2013-02-28 at 18:33.

2013-02-28, 21:52	Link #106
Wild Goose Truth Martyr Author Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doing Anzu's paperwork. Age: 38	If Ground Zeroes is still within the main MGS continuity, then Big Boss and Miller eventually return to the US and FOXHOUND, since MGS1 establishes Miller as FOXHOUND's chief survival instructor. He also finds love sometime along the way; IIRC Miller had a 15-year0old daughter whose fate is never conclusively mentioned. (I figure she was collateral damage when Liquid neutralised Miller.) __________________ One must forgive one's enemies, but not before they are hanged.Heinrich Heine. *I believe in miracles.* Order of Freelance Mages (Goose's Nanoha OC Project)

2013-03-01, 01:35	Link #107
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	I'm awaiting the cloning of BigBoss that is the part of the story I really want to see. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2013-03-01, 02:12	Link #108
SilverSyko Okuyasu the Bird Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32	FYI, that's already happened before Peace Walker. The DNA taken from Big Boss for the Les Enfant Terribles Project happened in 1972, and the Peace Walker Incident occurred in 1974. Ground Zeroes apparently takes place after Peace Walker. So unless they show it in flashback, getting to see Solid and Liquid being created is unlikely. However they're probably already in a childish state by the time of this game, so the chances of a cameo are there. __________________

2013-03-27, 18:32	Link #112
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	So... we probably should merge these two threads together huh... __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2013-02-27, 08:32	Link #103
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	What is the version from "Here's to You" used in the trailer. The others ones I've heard are less cheerful. If this game has Foxhound we could even see young Solid Snake

2013-03-27, 10:25	Link #109
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	Today in the Game Developers Conference Kojima is supposed to reveal more information of Ground Zeroes and show us more about the Fox Engine. Heard there is also a new trailer.

2013-03-27, 14:48	Link #110
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	So Ground Zeroes ended up being The Phantom Pain? I guess the two threads should be merged or something like that. God, I listed the same opinion in the two threads. It will look ridiculous XD

2013-03-27, 18:56	Link #113
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	Ground Zeroes is just the prologue to V. It's basically an early stage from the same game.

2013-03-27, 19:45	Link #117
Wild Goose Truth Martyr Author Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doing Anzu's paperwork. Age: 38	Phantom Pain is somewhat meaningful, given that we have an FPS view of an amputated hand with a prosthetic hook-claw. In the medical world, Phantom Pain is used to describe the feelings and sensations of pain... ... from a non-existent amputated limb. Looks interesting. __________________ One must forgive one's enemies, but not before they are hanged.Heinrich Heine. *I believe in miracles.* Order of Freelance Mages (Goose's Nanoha OC Project)

2013-03-27, 20:38	Link #119
Wild Goose Truth Martyr Author Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doing Anzu's paperwork. Age: 38	More like Ground Zeroes is the prologue, while Phantom Pain is the main story. __________________ One must forgive one's enemies, but not before they are hanged.Heinrich Heine. *I believe in miracles.* Order of Freelance Mages (Goose's Nanoha OC Project)

2013-03-28, 03:19	Link #120
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Separate games guys http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/27...eparate-games/ __________________ Vampire+Sisters