Marineford Arc discussion (Anime-only)

[Yukmouth]

Originally Posted by MihawkXGP

Its because of his body structure. It has nothin to do with him being a "D" as far as we know. Blackbeard is a very odd character with many mysteries behind him.

i'm not sure of what Marco said is 100% correct, this have to be xplained in the anime becuase it is the first time it happens that someone have two DF abbilites, even CP9 members were not capabale of that although they have the help of Vegapunk??

[Blackbeard D. Kuma]

Originally Posted by Shiroth

Blackbeard D. Kuma is going to love this episode.

You got that right, my friend. I'm overjoyed right now .

Originally Posted by MihawkXGP

It was his logia powers that allowed him to beat Ace.

His logia powers in combination with his physical prowess. It only took 2 punches from BB to put Ace in critical condition (one of which nearly broke his neck). He's formidable in hand-to-hand combat.

As for how BB acquired the Quake ability, it indeed has something to do with his abnormal body. The Darkness fruit may have also played a hand in the acquisition (that would give Teach all the more reason to have spent decades searching for it).

Here's the preview for the next episode: http://www.fujitv.co.jp/GPplayer/e/G...piece&type=flv

[MihawkXGP]

Originally Posted by Yukmouth

i'm not sure of what Marco said is 100% correct, this have to be xplained in the anime becuase it is the first time it happens that someone have two DF abbilites, even CP9 members were not capabale of that although they have the help of Vegapunk??

Of course it is correct. That is the explanation which is why Oda had Marco say that line.

It was said by CP9 that if a person ate another DF ability - then they would explode. BB is an exception to this rule. It'd be futile to speculate. The mystery will be revealed sometime in the future.

[Shiryuu]

It probably has nothing to do with his body, but with his devil fruit. The darkness can suck in the df powers, but since the person is still alive it doesn't do it completely since it's still bound to the user so it just looks like it gets nullified. But since Whitebeard recently died, the DF isn't bound anymore and BB can finish draining the DF powers.

[Aesthetic Shampoo]

Freaking loved how Vista caught up to Jimbei in 2 seconds, as opposed to the 3 episodes he should have ran.

[MihawkXGP]

Originally Posted by Shiryuu

It probably has nothing to do with his body, but with his devil fruit. The darkness can suck in the df powers, but since the person is still alive it doesn't do it completely since it's still bound to the user so it just looks like it gets nullified. But since Whitebeard recently died, the DF isn't bound anymore and BB can finish draining the DF powers.

If it had nothin to do with his body - Oda wouldn't have added that line in. Marco knew straight away why Teach was able to have 2 DF abilities. Teach is a very odd character.

[paradox13]

It probably has nothing to do with his body, but with his devil fruit.

So when did you talk to Oda sensei?

[PixelCreek]

I think that it was probably BB's dark fruit that alowed him to absorb WB's power (kinda obvious) and then his body made it possible for it to work properly.. Even with what Marco said, I doubt that BB could just go eat another fruit because his body is different? I think it would be a combination of his devil fruit and his body that alowed him to obtain a second power.

[Pwnago]

Originally Posted by MihawkXGP

If it had nothin to do with his body - Oda wouldn't have added that line in. Marco knew straight away why Teach was able to have 2 DF abilities. Teach is a very odd character.

Or.. It might be that it has something to do with the Will Of D! We don't know very much but it also might of been Blackbeard's power.. He didn't EAT two devil fruits.. He simply just took Whitebeard's power.

[Blackbeard D. Kuma]

Originally Posted by Pwnago

Or.. It might be that it has something to do with the Will Of D!

I very much doubt that. Ace also had the Will of D. and yet Marco said that only Teach was different from other people, hence the reason why he's able to wield 2 DF powers. This anomaly is something that will be exclusive to Teach.

[MihawkXGP]

Originally Posted by paradox13

So when did you talk to Oda sensei?

It is the word of Oda. He wrote that script - therefore it must be taken as gospel truth.
His logia ability played its part in taking WB's power - but its not the main reason WHY he can hold 2 powers at any given time. Its his body. That is the reason given - so what anyone else says means nothing next to the word of the creator of One Piece via his characters.

[Pwnago]

Originally Posted by Blackbeard D. Kuma

I very much doubt that. Ace also had the Will of D. and yet Marco said that only Teach was different from other people, hence the reason why he's able to wield 2 DF powers. This anomaly is something that will be exclusive to Teach.

Yes.. but he never try to eat another devil fruit to see if it works or not. If he did I'm pretty sure he would be dead if he did try, it's a 50% gamble. If Ace did eat another devil fruit, and Teach also got the power from Whitebeard at this point then we would know it is because of the Will of D. We dont know the real reason. BUT in my opinion I think it has something to do the Will of D. but I dont really know its a thought, or it could be Blackbeard's power.. We dont have enough information to tell us.

[Blackbeard D. Kuma]

Originally Posted by Pwnago

Yes.. but he never try to eat another devil fruit to see if it works or not. If he did I'm pretty sure he would be dead if he did try, it's a 50% gamble. If Ace did eat another devil fruit, and Teach also got the power from Whitebeard at this point then we would know it is because of the Will of D. We dont know the real reason. BUT in my opinion I think it has something to do the Will of D. but I dont really know its a thought, or it could be Blackbeard's power.. We dont have enough information to tell us.

BB took a risk indeed. But the fact remains it's unprecedented for someone to possess 2 DF abilities. Teach is the very first exception to that rule. He is unlike any other, and that is attributed to his abnormal body.

[Pwnago]

Originally Posted by Blackbeard D. Kuma

BB took a risk indeed. But the fact remains it's unprecedented for someone to possess 2 DF abilities. Teach is the very first exception to that rule. He is unlike any other, and that is attributed to his abnormal body.

I don't really know whats the difference between Luffy's/Ace's/Dragon's body is COMPARED to Blackbeard's body. The point I'm looking at, is he is just a big man I dont really see anything else apart from that, and very terrible at combat, unless he uses his dark fruit, but overall he is not a bad character xD I just laugh at him when he fights LOOOL!

[Blackbeard D. Kuma]

Originally Posted by Pwnago

The point I'm looking at, is he is just a big man I dont really see anything else apart from that, and very terrible at combat, unless he uses his dark fruit, but overall he is not a bad character xD I just laugh at him when he fights LOOOL!

It's a mystery. We'll have to wait and see just what sets Teach apart from the rest.

Very terrible at combat? He put Ace in critical condition with only 2 punches (one of which nearly broke Ace's neck), nevermind defeating him easily.

Even Shanks foreshadowed that BB is serious business. The guy is heavily underestimated by the fanbase.

[Pwnago]

Originally Posted by Blackbeard D. Kuma

It's a mystery. We'll have to wait and see just what sets Teach apart from the rest.

Very terrible at combat? He put Ace in critical condition with only 2 punches (one of which nearly broke Ace's neck), nevermind defeating him easily.

Even Shanks foreshadowed that BB is serious business. The guy is heavily underestimated by the fanbase.

I mean really? He uses gravity to pull and suck every in, they lose their powers if they touching him or he is touching them. His slow. He has strength but he is slow. Without that power and he has Luffy's power, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to own very much. I think !

[Kuroi Hadou]

Originally Posted by Pwnago

I mean really? He uses gravity to pull and suck every in, they lose their powers if they touching him or he is touching them. His slow. He has strength but he is slow. Without that power and he has Luffy's power, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to own very much. I think !

Yes he's slow. But he can take a hit. He survived a Quake bubble to the face from Whitebeard.

[Pwnago]

Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou

Yes he's slow. But he can take a hit. He survived a Quake bubble to the face from Whitebeard.

Yeah because he has all that fat around him to protect him But one more hit from Whitebeard's power, he would've been screwed up. On the other hand, couldn't disagree with your comment :P

[Blackbeard D. Kuma]

Originally Posted by Pwnago

Yeah because he has all that fat around him to protect him But true couldn't disagree more, but one more hit from Whitebeard's power, he would've been screwed up. On the other hand, couldn't disagree with your comment :P

BB needs to improve on his speed, reflexes, and damage intake (he writhes in pain often). Once he does, he'll automatically be eligible for top-tier status.

[Pwnago]

Originally Posted by Blackbeard D. Kuma

BB needs to improve on his speed, reflexes, and damage intake (he writhes in pain often). Once he does, he'll automatically be eligible for top-tier status.

Agree, although do you really think his capable of doing this? I'm pretty sure Blackbeard is fat person who doesn't work on these kind of important stuff in fights. He would think that he is top of the world because of two devil fruit powers, which I doubt he would master the quake quake power very quickly. He would no way become as beast as Whitebeard since Whitebeard trained his reflexes, speed, and damage this led him to be the ultimate person in the world and very good with his devil fruit and also he is not arrogant I suppose. If Blackbeard doesn't train these stuff, Blackbeard wouldn't be the strongest man in the world.

I think Monkey D. Garp is one the strongest atm, even though he is a very old man ! Any disagreements?