AnimeSuki Forums

Fimbulvetr · 2008-04-20, 17:30

Beware of the spoiler above, ReddyRedWolf is spoiling volume 1 of the manga, which was completely skipped and might never make it into the anime at all. Which is sad, because the end of volume 1 is the most important and most central part of the whole story.
If you really want to know what happens in that volume, just read it, it is scanlated. And so is the first chapter of volume 2, which is pretty much equivalent to episode 2 of the anime.
Ep1 was an anime-original, complete with "Limiter-drama" (Powerful people with limiter devices they have no control over, resulting in a huge tactical disadvantage), and I don't remember the ep3 villain either.

Spoiler for limiters in the manga:

Nice visuals, good voice acting even, just not so great story adaption. Might have something to do with the early time slot.

Darklightz · 2008-04-20, 17:42

This feels so much like an anime version of Powerpuff girls*. I like the dilemma the girls have, even though the leader loves them with an unnatural obsession, they are still pretty much treated like leashed dogs to be loosed on BABEL's enemies. Wich I'm guessing is what the guy with the glasses will change.

*Powerpuff Girls Z was a poor excuse of a magical girl show who rode on the original Powerpuff Girl show's success without carrying any of the comedy and style wich made the original so good

arkxkra · 2008-04-23, 03:02

Spoiler for ep3:

SuperKnuckles · 2008-04-23, 03:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darklightz

*Powerpuff Girls Z was a poor excuse of a magical girl show who rode on the original Powerpuff Girl show's success without carrying any of the comedy and style wich made the original so good

Hmm. I sorta disagree with that. It's true they got the vehicle from the original cartoons, but in the end, it had a totally unique flair of its own. PPGZ was surely an acquired taste though. Zettai Karen isn't since it's mostly a decently original story, even if its premise is not.

aroduc · 2008-04-26, 21:10

Ep 4 was awesome.

Spoiler:

<3 Naomi

Deathkillz · 2008-04-27, 11:36

ep 4...epix...

Spoiler:

serenade_beta · 2008-04-27, 13:45

Spoiler for ep4:

arkxkra · 2008-04-29, 01:04

ep4, lol

Spoiler for :

Kaioshin Sama · 2008-04-29, 13:57

Episode 03 was another decent one with some light (extremely light) bits of character exposition for Minamoto based on his childhood or lack thereof. I appreciate that they are trying to do these things, but they really aren't especially deep nor do they seem to really have a drastic impact on the story.

Likewise, the story could seriously use a jolt. I think the main problem is that there is no struggle, which is the essence of any interesting plot. The Children have faced no real challenge they couldn't just steamroll past or solve with a few words the last 3 episodes and have had nothing to improve upon. They are all already the highest level of esper attainable, so there's nothing to work towards there, and they all live reality happy lives with their fellow espers now that they work at B.A.B.E.L (which remedies the fact that they could never have normal friends) and there's nothing that really points to them being upset with their powers, rather they seem quite content.

So that basically just renders the series a bunch of stuff that happens and doesn't exactly make for a compelling or above mediocore watch. I should just be enjoying the lolis kicking but then, but even that part isn't especially interesting as they never really do anything. Konata just does her telekinisis to solve everything, Aoi does her Brain Powerd like Vital Jump and Shiho reads the lines of fate or something. So yeah, no real challenge.

As I read the Wiki entry there's supposed to be an organization called P.A.N.D.R.A (or the Rie Kugimiya squad as I call them as 2 out of the 5 characters are voiced by her) that I think might finally provide that challenge, but they could be many episodes off as of now. I think I'm going to put this one on hiatus until said organization makes it's appearance and then take things from there, as I don't expect much to happen in the mean time that is overwhelming in the ways of character development or such going by what we've had.

Kaoru Chujo · 2008-04-29, 18:59

"Decent" is about as high as I could put ep3, too, Kaioshin. Since the battles don't do much for me in almost any show, I'm hoping that the conflict will come internally, something psychological within each of the girls, perhaps. But your statement about some form of conflict being required is bang on -- preferably something deeper and covering several episodes.

This doesn't seem to be bothering the Japanese anime-viewing public, however. If a post on 2channel is to be believed, this show jumped up from a 1.9% audience share to 3.1% between the week ending 20 April and the week ending 27 April, while Code Geass R2 dropped from 2.8% to 1.4%. Of course, the comparative figures for the week before were Zettai dropping from 3.3 to 1.9 and Geass rising from 2.6 to 2.8, so the wheel is still spinning. Over 3% is very good for these shows.

I found a more complete listing. For its first four episodes, Zettai (Sundays 10am) has gone 2.6 - 3.3 - 1.9 - 3.1, while Geass (Sundays 5 pm) has gone 3.0 - 2.6 - 2.8 - 1.4. No doubt there was some special event on opposite it last week. In any case, the two shows seem to be tracking about the same ratings.

Nemo_N · 2008-04-30, 11:50

Those waiting for vast character development or emotional tension should bail out now. I'm going through the manga and this is very similar to Takashi Shiina's other work I've watched, GS Mikami; formulaic fun but nothing beyond that. A "bunch of stuff that happens" is the best way to describe it.

I'm loving both the manga and the anime, but then again this is what I expected from ZKC since I learned who the creator was.

evil|plushie · 2008-05-01, 03:53

GS Mikami only had an actual plotline about 17volumes into the series, what with Mikami's past as well as Yokoshima's past etc. I suspect this may be the same for Zettai karen. At which point, we may nowhere near seeing any form of tension in the anime.

Spoiler:

Mecha_Trueno · 2008-05-03, 08:32

late watching ep4... OYAJI POWER!!!

f*ckin cracked up at that scene.
"oyaji power cant save the world", lol best punchline ever!

btw, how come some people dont seem to like hiyano aya playing kaoru? i think it works pretty well. come on man, her oyaji side is TOTOLLY konata

DragoonKain3 · 2008-05-03, 11:32

Just like I have an inherent bias against Kugimiya Rie, there are some who have inherent bias against Hirano Aya. So yeah, some complaints about Hirano in this thread should be taken with a bucket load of salt, especially when some of these people have a history of always complaining about her.

I personally don't think she's all that bad here.

Seiryuu · 2008-05-03, 22:31

Ep4 wasn't too bad for what it was. If expecting plot and character development or situations and conflicts arising that will demand more serious material, you'll be completely disappointed. On the other hand, if expecting a good laugh and plenty of slapstick, anti-cerebral comedy, you should enjoy this. Who would've thought that a ten-year-old girl actually is the ultimate horny old man.
Also, after watching this, I can say that, considering the manga, it's impressive the animators managed to do the first 3 eps without any pantsu. However, when you let a super-telekinetic mega-perv that she has permission to rip apart a couple girls' clothes, some things are going to come out.

serenade_beta · 2008-05-04, 13:15

Spoiler for ep5:

Onizuka-GTO · 2008-05-04, 16:10

hmm...the opening song is growing on me.

it's so...enthusiastic.

Kaoru Chujo · 2008-05-04, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

hmm...the opening song is growing on me. it's so...enthusiastic.

Good word. I think that energy is why I've liked it from the start.

Spoiler for ep5:

Deathkillz · 2008-05-05, 04:05

ep 5

Spoiler:

arkxkra · 2008-05-11, 04:05

Spoiler for ep5:

2008-04-20, 17:30	Link #121
Fimbulvetr Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Austria Age: 40	Beware of the spoiler above, ReddyRedWolf is spoiling volume 1 of the manga, which was completely skipped and might never make it into the anime at all. Which is sad, because the end of volume 1 is the most important and most central part of the whole story. If you really want to know what happens in that volume, just read it, it is scanlated. And so is the first chapter of volume 2, which is pretty much equivalent to episode 2 of the anime. Ep1 was an anime-original, complete with "Limiter-drama" (Powerful people with limiter devices they have no control over, resulting in a huge tactical disadvantage), and I don't remember the ep3 villain either. Spoiler for limiters in the manga: In the manga, Kaoru just takes off her watch, or whatever it is supposed to look like, whenever she feels like it and does whatever she wants with her power. And I believe the others could do that too. Nice visuals, good voice acting even, just not so great story adaption. Might have something to do with the early time slot. Last edited by Fimbulvetr; 2008-04-20 at 17:54.

2008-04-23, 03:02	Link #123
arkxkra 全力全開 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Non-management 97th world	Spoiler for ep3: good episode. quite enjoyable, the bad girl image of the children is very cool Minamoto house was upgraded, Esp proff, ever he hit into the wall the wall still as nice as new. the guy that with squirel(bad guy?), he said "queen", who does the queen among them? __________________ \| Anime Series' Window XP/7 Theme \|

2008-04-26, 21:10	Link #125
aroduc Ruiner of Things Join Date: Dec 2005	Ep 4 was awesome. Spoiler: OYAJI POWAAAAAA! <3 Naomi

2008-04-27, 11:36	Link #126
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	ep 4...epix... Spoiler: Naomi is too cute for words...hahaha!! I actually feel sorry for her as in this episode she is having a major crisis as she can't control her own power. And the reason behind all that? She hates perverts!!! Kaoru got her fantasies fulfilled when allowed to unleash her inner beastings. Poor Naomi But the one to blame has to be her boss, he is one heck of a pervert who thinks that he will be marrying Naomi in the future. Well after this episode, she was able to awaken her inner self and is now transformed from kitty cat to wild cat I love girls with a psycho side ^^ __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2008-04-27, 13:45	Link #127
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for ep4: Oyaji episode? Besides for Naomi, the whole episode was about perverts trying to do things to Naomi. Even the "criminal" this episode was an idiot. Well, no more anymore since Naomi can now just blast them away with her "dark" side. Guess Naomi is one of those two-faced characters (like Maki)?... It works. Funny too. And kind of scary too, in a good way. Kaoru was just scary this episode, when she used her Oyaji Power and lost it. Ichiro... Sucks for him, but no more chance of him marrying Naomi anymore. Anyways, a typical episode for this anime, except there was a lot less loli and more high school girls. Not a bad change, not bad at all... Preview: Kouichi wants them to go to school... Just how will this end. More importantly, hope the drama doesn't reuse from the previous episodes... Nah, too much hope? __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2008-04-20, 17:42	Link #122
Darklightz Wagering his life... Join Date: Jun 2006	This feels so much like an anime version of Powerpuff girls. I like the dilemma the girls have, even though the leader loves them with an unnatural obsession, they are still pretty much treated like leashed dogs to be loosed on BABEL's enemies. Wich I'm guessing is what the guy with the glasses will change. Powerpuff Girls Z was a poor excuse of a magical girl show who rode on the original Powerpuff Girl show's success without carrying any of the comedy and style wich made the original so good

2008-04-29, 01:04	Link #128
arkxkra 全力全開 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Non-management 97th world	ep4, lol Spoiler for : Kaoru's oyaji mode was really awesome , and the skill look like dragon ball too. and Naomi dark side was very strong when against oyaji. from kitty cat become wild cat, not bad. next epi, Kouichi request to let the go to school, hopefully everything work well. __________________ \| Anime Series' Window XP/7 Theme \|

2008-04-29, 13:57	Link #129
Kaioshin Sama Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Neither Here nor There Age: 39	Episode 03 was another decent one with some light (extremely light) bits of character exposition for Minamoto based on his childhood or lack thereof. I appreciate that they are trying to do these things, but they really aren't especially deep nor do they seem to really have a drastic impact on the story. Likewise, the story could seriously use a jolt. I think the main problem is that there is no struggle, which is the essence of any interesting plot. The Children have faced no real challenge they couldn't just steamroll past or solve with a few words the last 3 episodes and have had nothing to improve upon. They are all already the highest level of esper attainable, so there's nothing to work towards there, and they all live reality happy lives with their fellow espers now that they work at B.A.B.E.L (which remedies the fact that they could never have normal friends) and there's nothing that really points to them being upset with their powers, rather they seem quite content. So that basically just renders the series a bunch of stuff that happens and doesn't exactly make for a compelling or above mediocore watch. I should just be enjoying the lolis kicking but then, but even that part isn't especially interesting as they never really do anything. Konata just does her telekinisis to solve everything, Aoi does her Brain Powerd like Vital Jump and Shiho reads the lines of fate or something. So yeah, no real challenge. As I read the Wiki entry there's supposed to be an organization called P.A.N.D.R.A (or the Rie Kugimiya squad as I call them as 2 out of the 5 characters are voiced by her) that I think might finally provide that challenge, but they could be many episodes off as of now. I think I'm going to put this one on hiatus until said organization makes it's appearance and then take things from there, as I don't expect much to happen in the mean time that is overwhelming in the ways of character development or such going by what we've had.

2008-04-29, 18:59	Link #130
Kaoru Chujo Yuuki Aoi Join Date: Jul 2004	"Decent" is about as high as I could put ep3, too, Kaioshin. Since the battles don't do much for me in almost any show, I'm hoping that the conflict will come internally, something psychological within each of the girls, perhaps. But your statement about some form of conflict being required is bang on -- preferably something deeper and covering several episodes. This doesn't seem to be bothering the Japanese anime-viewing public, however. If a post on 2channel is to be believed, this show jumped up from a 1.9% audience share to 3.1% between the week ending 20 April and the week ending 27 April, while Code Geass R2 dropped from 2.8% to 1.4%. Of course, the comparative figures for the week before were Zettai dropping from 3.3 to 1.9 and Geass rising from 2.6 to 2.8, so the wheel is still spinning. Over 3% is very good for these shows. I found a more complete listing. For its first four episodes, Zettai (Sundays 10am) has gone 2.6 - 3.3 - 1.9 - 3.1, while Geass (Sundays 5 pm) has gone 3.0 - 2.6 - 2.8 - 1.4. No doubt there was some special event on opposite it last week. In any case, the two shows seem to be tracking about the same ratings. __________________ YUUKI Aoi 悠木碧. b92.03.27 (age 29). 2008 Kurenai (Murasaki). 2009 Yumeiro Pâtissière (Ichigo), Kiruminzuu (Riko), Yutori-chan (Yutori-chan). 2010 Vampire Bund (Mina Tepeş), Shiki (Sunako), Samurai Girls (Juubee), Pokémon: Black and White (Iris). 2011 Madoka Magica (Madoka), Gosick (Victorique), A-Channel (Tooru). 2012 Symphogear (Hibiki). 2014 Pilot's Love Song (Claire/Nina), Nanatsu no Taizai (Diane). 2015 Owari no Seraph (Krul Tepes), Rokka no Yuusha (Fremy). 2016 Boku no Hero Academia (Tsuyu, Froppy). 2017 Kino no Tabi (Kino). 2021 Kumo desu ga (watashi), Kaizoku Oujo (Karin), Heike Monogatari (Biwa), etc., etc. Total of 513 roles in anime and games.

2008-04-30, 11:50	Link #131
Nemo_N Anime Leecher Join Date: Aug 2006	Those waiting for vast character development or emotional tension should bail out now. I'm going through the manga and this is very similar to Takashi Shiina's other work I've watched, GS Mikami; formulaic fun but nothing beyond that. A "bunch of stuff that happens" is the best way to describe it. I'm loving both the manga and the anime, but then again this is what I expected from ZKC since I learned who the creator was.

2008-05-01, 03:53	Link #132
evil\|plushie The Last Frontier Join Date: Apr 2004	GS Mikami only had an actual plotline about 17volumes into the series, what with Mikami's past as well as Yokoshima's past etc. I suspect this may be the same for Zettai karen. At which point, we may nowhere near seeing any form of tension in the anime. Spoiler: Don't think they've even shown the future premonition arc yet... __________________ God is on the side with the biggest cannon. http://sining83.blogspot.com

2008-05-03, 08:32	Link #133
Mecha_Trueno 餓鬼に興味ない、俺の好みは年上の美女だ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Shitty old London. They must've been on drugs when they built this place, WTF were they smoking!!! Age: 40	late watching ep4... OYAJI POWER!!! f*ckin cracked up at that scene. "oyaji power cant save the world", lol best punchline ever! btw, how come some people dont seem to like hiyano aya playing kaoru? i think it works pretty well. come on man, her oyaji side is TOTOLLY konata __________________ 禁則事項です

2008-05-03, 11:32	Link #134
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	Just like I have an inherent bias against Kugimiya Rie, there are some who have inherent bias against Hirano Aya. So yeah, some complaints about Hirano in this thread should be taken with a bucket load of salt, especially when some of these people have a history of always complaining about her. I personally don't think she's all that bad here. __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2008-05-03, 22:31	Link #135
Seiryuu Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	Ep4 wasn't too bad for what it was. If expecting plot and character development or situations and conflicts arising that will demand more serious material, you'll be completely disappointed. On the other hand, if expecting a good laugh and plenty of slapstick, anti-cerebral comedy, you should enjoy this. Who would've thought that a ten-year-old girl actually is the ultimate horny old man. Also, after watching this, I can say that, considering the manga, it's impressive the animators managed to do the first 3 eps without any pantsu. However, when you let a super-telekinetic mega-perv that she has permission to rip apart a couple girls' clothes, some things are going to come out.

2008-05-04, 13:15	Link #136
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for ep5: -Are we going to have that introduction every episode?... Well, the episode turned out a lot better than I expected. I was afraid that the whole episode would just be about the "Espers are monsters" drama. The episode did spend half of the episode with that typical drama, but the other half was pretty interesting when the anti-esper group hacked in and took control of the robots. The whole process of destroying those robots was pretty fun too. And the antagonist guy who seems to be the final boss has his name revealed (Kyousuke). And at the end, the three are a bit more determined to go to school. Preview: Going to school, another esper as a classmate, almost 100% chance of typical repetitive ZKC drama. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2008-05-04, 16:10	Link #137
Onizuka-GTO Holy Beast ~Wuff!~ Scanlator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, UK Age: 41	hmm...the opening song is growing on me. it's so...enthusiastic. __________________

2008-05-05, 04:05	Link #139
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	ep 5 Spoiler: Well I enjoyed this episode a lot. Trying to re-educate the children so that they are school worthy maybe impossible but at least Kouichi tried (you can't blame a guy for trying ). Kaoru killing her classmated because he badmouthed espers was pretty funny. The first half of the episode was pretty standard stuff but entertaining imo. You don't need much but a story that can keep my attention for it to be entertaining. The hacking of BABEL was something unexpected so there was some nice surprise drama. I still laugh at how extreme the president is XD So there is an anti esper organisation out there, mini boss 1 anyone? Kyousuke is still a mysterious guy... Preview: so they do get to go to school...Kaoru is going to do something out of emotions again __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2008-05-11, 04:05	Link #140
arkxkra 全力全開 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Non-management 97th world	Spoiler for ep5: lol, nice episode. Kouichi plan was really nice, the plan for let them to go to school. And the president was really fun as well, when someone say bad to children then will become berserk. And other group as well, really funny, the otaku(dunno his name), ask those robot to attack back. __________________ \| Anime Series' Window XP/7 Theme \|