To Aru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Discussion (Archives)

[outerelf]

Originally Posted by zaeraal

Btw accelerator declared war on academic city, was there mentioned how he plan on doing so? If i remember correctly, he failed last time to destroy Aleisters building and i dont supose he can do teleport now. And i hope he does understand that fighting in AC full of students = a lot of inocent deaths (his loli will not forgive him this time).

And there was mentioned that Misaka is in Russia, but was there mentioned something about Kuroko, Saten, Uiharu? Yeah Saten and Uiharu doesnt have any major plot effect on Index series (and obviously the autor does not like weak characters), so if they werent mentioned its ok, but how about Kuroko? She has really strong relationship to Misaka and i dont think she will just allow Misaka to leave AC like this to Russia, without even trying to follow her.

Accelerator will probably wage war in the darkness. Although he might not be able to teleport in, I bet he knows of espers that probably could. And even if he couldn't teleport in- well, Aleister is out of his tube right now, isn't he?

Misaka is indeed in Russia. Saten and Uiharu probably won't appear, but I don't think it isn't because the Author doesn't like weak character. If you take a look, the only person that is royally messing up Aleisters plans is Shiage, a level zero. He doesn't have any powers whatsoever, and instead pulls through on sheer guts and pragmaticism, and the love of his loli.

But I do expect Kuroko will appear sooner or later- and she might just appear to meet Accelerator and help him get into the windowless building to help fight.

[Phibrizzo]

Originally Posted by outerelf

Accelerator will probably wage war in the darkness. Although he might not be able to teleport in, I bet he knows of espers that probably could. And even if he couldn't teleport in- well, Aleister is out of his tube right now, isn't he?

Misaka is indeed in Russia. Saten and Uiharu probably won't appear, but I don't think it isn't because the Author doesn't like weak character. If you take a look, the only person that is royally messing up Aleisters plans is Shiage, a level zero. He doesn't have any powers whatsoever, and instead pulls through on sheer guts and pragmaticism, and the love of his loli.

But I do expect Kuroko will appear sooner or later- and she might just appear to meet Accelerator and help him get into the windowless building to help fight.

Mujusume Aiwaki and Kuroko can teleport inside the building :P so thats not exactly a problem at the moment.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by zaeraal

Btw accelerator declared war on academic city, was there mentioned how he plan on doing so? If i remember correctly, he failed last time to destroy Aleisters building and i dont supose he can do teleport now. And i hope he does understand that fighting in AC full of students = a lot of inocent deaths (his loli will not forgive him this time).

In the vol. 15 fought without hurting any bystander.
He can't teleport but now he can FLY!!!!

And there was mentioned that Misaka is in Russia, but was there mentioned something about Kuroko, Saten, Uiharu? Yeah Saten and Uiharu doesnt have any major plot effect on Index series (and obviously the autor does not like weak characters), so if they werent mentioned its ok, but how about Kuroko? She has really strong relationship to Misaka and i dont think she will just allow Misaka to leave AC like this to Russia, without even trying to follow her.

I wouldn't be suprised if for her return Mikoto finds a brainwashèd Kuroko by Mental Out.

Originally Posted by outerelf

If you take a look, the only person that is royally messing up Aleisters plans is Shiage, a level zero. He doesn't have any powers whatsoever, and instead pulls through on sheer guts and pragmaticism, and the love of his loli.

Points for you, but first, lets see this:
Touma:
Status: Missing/dead.
Kamijou faction: Not aware of him since he left England maybe except for Index and Stiyl.
Aleister's POV: No longer needed. He's got I.B. from Fiamma.

Accelerator:
Status: God-damn angel but lonely.
Misaka team: All of them kidnapped by Academy City.
Aleister's POV: Disposable, still has Kakine as a spare.

Shiage:
Status: Alive with not several injuries:
Team: Rikou is safe and now he's got a yandere mistress .
Aleister's POV: MUST KILL A.S.A.P. , he stole one of his pawns from the dark side which also is a Level 5, Mugino.

But I do expect Kuroko will appear sooner or later- and she might just appear to meet Accelerator and help him get into the windowless building to help fight.

That sounds better than getting brainwashed by The Queen :P.

[pampz21]

So one things for sure...Aleister must DIE!

[outerelf]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Points for you, but first, lets see this:
Touma:
Status: Missing/dead.
Kamijou faction: Not aware of him since he left England maybe except for Index and Stiyl.
Aleister's POV: No longer needed. He's got I.B. from Fiamma.

Accelerator:
Status: God-damn angel but lonely.
Misaka team: All of them kidnapped by Academy City.
Aleister's POV: Disposable, still has Kakine as a spare.

Shiage:
Status: Alive with not several injuries:
Team: Rikou is safe and now he's got a yandere mistress .
Aleister's POV: MUST KILL A.S.A.P. , he stole one of his pawns from the dark side which also is a Level 5, Mugino.

Touma
Kamijou faction is very much aware of him. There are a couple hundred people that practically followed him to Russia! He did disappear in front of Mikoto, part of the faction. Plus- what is Aleister going to tell his parents? And while Aleister might've gotten the Holy Right, the Imagine Breaker is still with Touma, and the Holy Right can be broken by enough magic.

Accelerator
I think that now that's Accelerator has risen several levels (again) Aleister might need him yet- Accelerator has evolved beyond using the Dark Matter and into using a different material.

Shiage
I... will agree with what you've said about Shiage. Really, Shiage is causing the most trouble for Aleister's plans, then Touma and Accelerator combined. Just think what would happened if the three of them combined with the express purpose of taking down Aleister- the man wouldn't stand a chance.


What I really want to know is what happened to Tsuchumido. That spy hasn't been mentioned at all yet. Did he drop out, disappear- what? (And darn it, what about Aogami Pierce? Will he be able to completely end the war?)

[paptimus]

guys, can some one tell me if touma lost his IB or not ?
How is it that aleister just decided to leave his tube and go to war?
was fianma killed by aleister or not?
And how did touma get thrown to another dimension?

i can't wait to get my hands on that volume. too much development is nice but takes a while to sink in.

[I_am_Kami]

K K I have this theory i have thought of from researching.. Ok so what if touma is like Lucifer. Read me out cuz like some people say he reacted badly to fiamma who has the power of Micheal who by the way was the one who took down Lucifer. /now im not necessarily saying he's a bad guy cuz of that. An example would be like tears of tiara where Lucifer was the good guy all along cuz lets face it, so far Gabriel's been tryin to kill everyone. I at first thought maybe touma could be like an angel or another Jesus but then i thought Jesus brought miracles and touma destroys them. This is only a theory so im open to criticism and corrections.

Also, i hope the novels dont end. This is too good of a story to end at 20 somethin novels.

And i am hoping for that Mikoto x Touma ending

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Also that volume is when Fiamma makes his debut.


Nobody loves Biagio or Lidvia. What surprises me is that Oriana only had 1 vote just like Terra .

where'd u get the voting from

[sasuke706]

Originally Posted by paptimus

guys, can some one tell me if touma lost his IB or not ?
How is it that aleister just decided to leave his tube and go to war?
was fianma killed by aleister or not?
And how did touma get thrown to another dimension?

We're reading from spoilers by other people who got early copies in a different language; there's probably some misinformation going around.

But to answer what I can, Aleister didn't go to war, as he has pawns for that (Russia started it anyway). He just went to retrieve Fiamma's Holy Right from what I gather (Fiamma considered Touma's right hand the Holy Right too, didn't he?).

Fiamma was supposedly picked up by Silvia and the Norse magician, so he's probably alive but missing an arm.

And I think people are reading too much into the 'disappeared' part of Touma. Does it literally say he faded away, or was he just unaccounted for after the battle, with no known leads to where he went?

Either way, we just have to wait for the novels to spread around a bit more so we can get some more accurate spoilers.

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Shiage is causing the most trouble for Aleister's plans, then Touma and Accelerator combined. Just think what would happened if the three of them combined with the express purpose of taking down Aleister- the man wouldn't stand a chance.

If this doesn't happen as a finale when the Index light novels end I will be severely disappointed in Kamachi. A protagonist team up would be epic.

Btw accelerator declared war on academic city, was there mentioned how he plan on doing so? If i remember correctly, he failed last time to destroy Aleisters building and i dont supose he can do teleport now. And i hope he does understand that fighting in AC full of students = a lot of inocent deaths (his loli will not forgive him this time).

Since when has Accelerator ever killed innocent people (besides the SISTERS)? The people he have killed either attacked/provoked him first (Kihara, Hound Dogs) or really deserved it (that guy in the volume 19 prologue). Accelerator won't touch the innocent citizens, but I'll bet he'll slaughter every last person pulling the strings on the dark side of Gakuen Toshi.

Also, I'd also like to know how the hell Aleister can survive out of his tube and how much more powerful Accelerator got.

[giorno]

Aleister still has Aiwass and now the Holy Right as well...

i don't think he's worried about accelerator...

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by yukirosuzuka

If this doesn't happen as a finale when the Index light novels end I will be severely disappointed in Kamachi. A protagonist team up would be epic.

Wouldn't be epic Aleister getting his defeat in hands of Shiage?
I will laugh hard looking at Aleister going "No! Why!!"

[pikachuwei]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

In the vol. 15 fought without hurting any bystander.
He can't teleport but now he can FLY!!!!
.

he could always fly :x

[yuiichi9]

I hope touma, accelerator and Shiage join to fight against aleister. Defeat aleister and the dark forces of academy city then someone build a monument in commemoration of the good deeds they did. Imagine the 3 statues of them.

[Xenosnake]

The Mt. Rushmore of Toaru, lol.

[Suzuku]

Spoiler:

上条さん→フィアンマに苦戦し一度右腕を切り落とされるが、秘められし力

により右腕復活、
フィアンマをぶっ倒す。その後フィアンマを逃がし、美琴の助けも無視して


墜落するベツレヘムの星を止めようとするが、復活したガブリエルと共に北

極海に散る。

一通さん→打ち止めを救うべく、羊皮紙を解読して身体がズタボロになりな

がらも魔術を使う。
その後フィアンマの大規模攻撃を止めるべく、黒い翼を白い翼に変化させて

特攻。これを止める。
最後は学園都市に回収・拘束されるも、反旗を翻す。

Spoiler:

浜面→体晶を使って暴走した麦野に襲われるが、和解。その後ダークマター

で鍛えた
兵器を持つ学園都市の追手に襲われるが、麦野・滝壺と協力してこれを撃退

。
最終的にアイテムの上役の女が出てきて殺されそうになるが、ディグルヴ達

の助太刀により
撃退。上役の女を拷問して学園都市との取引材料、素養格付の情報を得よう

とする。

美琴→核ミサイル発射阻止。その後ベツレヘムの星まで戦闘機で上条救出に

向かうが、シカトされる。

フィアンマ→第三の腕は「倒すべき敵の強度」に応じて出力が決まるため、

第三次世界大戦という
惑星そのものを滅ぼしかねない災厄を引き起こしてそれ以上の力を手にしよ

うと画策していたが、
世界の人間達にそこまでの悪意がなかったため思ったほどの出力が出ず、上

条さんに敗北。
その後上条さんに逃がされ改心するも、アレイスターに右腕を切り飛ばされ

始末される。
死んだかと思われたが、オッレルスに拾われて生き延びる。

ステイル・インデックス→ステイルはなんとかインデックスを止める。
2人とも上条さんとちょこっと話す。出番は少ない。

滝壺→レベル５どころか、学園都市全ての能力者を支配できる素養をもった

凄い奴らしい。

Translations please.

[tsunade666]

from what I understand on that wall of moon runes with the help of a program

Spoiler:

Kamijo and Fianma are fighting, Touma is fighting hard but got his arm chopped off but the right arm revive on itself and punch hell out of fianma. Touma left Fiamma, and even disregard the help of Mikoto to go to the north with Gabriel who was revive. ..... now I'm confuse. It said it tries to stop the star in crashing with gabriel? or Gabriel is the cause for the star to fall and Touma is trying to stop it.

Then it scatters and falls into the sea. The Goatskin is finally deciphered to save everyone. Accelerator .... (not sure on this one but) magic was use then afterwards the black wing was chanced into white to stop Fiamma's large scale attack or the suicide attack. Then the attack was stop.

In the end their seems to be a revolt but had been restrained by Gakuentoshi.

Spoiler:

the second moon runes is just about Mugino, Rikou and Shiage.

Mikoto stops the launching of the nuclear missiles then use a fighter to rescue Touma in the star of Bethlehem.

the next part really need someone to translate it because I don't understand what's happening. The program is at mess but it's talking about disaster that might destroy the planet it self.

The last part that I manage to understand is Aureleous picked up Fiamma who seems dead already

Style stops Index

Index talk with Kamijo through something.... (santochoko? what's that?)

moon runes moon runes

[Miraluka]

What I understood is Touma moved the Star of Bethlem to crash into the Artic so that way Russians below the Star won't die. Still I don't understand how he managed to do so.

[Plant42]

Originally Posted by Suzuku

Spoiler:

浜面→体晶を使って暴走した麦野に襲われるが、和解。その後ダークマター

で鍛えた
兵器を持つ学園都市の追手に襲われるが、麦野・滝壺と協力してこれを撃退

。
最終的にアイテムの上役の女が出てきて殺されそうになるが、ディグルヴ達

の助太刀により
撃退。上役の女を拷問して学園都市との取引材料、素養格付の情報を得よう

とする。

美琴→核ミサイル発射阻止。その後ベツレヘムの星まで戦闘機で上条救出に

向かうが、シカトされる。

フィアンマ→第三の腕は「倒すべき敵の強度」に応じて出力が決まるため、

第三次世界大戦という
惑星そのものを滅ぼしかねない災厄を引き起こしてそれ以上の力を手にしよ

うと画策していたが、
世界の人間達にそこまでの悪意がなかったため思ったほどの出力が出ず、上

条さんに敗北。
その後上条さんに逃がされ改心するも、アレイスターに右腕を切り飛ばされ

始末される。
死んだかと思われたが、オッレルスに拾われて生き延びる。

ステイル・インデックス→ステイルはなんとかインデックスを止める。
2人とも上条さんとちょこっと話す。出番は少ない。

滝壺→レベル５どころか、学園都市全ての能力者を支配できる素養をもった

凄い奴らしい。

Translations please.

For some parts that has new informations.

Spoiler:

浜面→体晶を使って暴走した麦野に襲われるが、和解。その後ダークマターで鍛えた
兵器を持つ学園都市の追手に襲われるが、麦野・滝壺と協力してこれを撃退。
Hamazura→He use a Body Crystal(the things from Rikou's body) to attack the reckless Mugino but they can compromise in the end. After that he was attacked by a chaser of AC that wield a weapon forge with "Dark Matter" but he cooperate with Rikou and Mugino and manage to repulse it.



フィアンマ→第三の腕は「倒すべき敵の強度」に応じて出力が決まるため、
第三次世界大戦という
惑星そのものを滅ぼしかねない災厄を引き起こしてそれ以上の力を手にしようと画策していたが、
世界の人間達にそこまでの悪意がなかったため思ったほどの出力が出ず、
Fiamma→ "The third arm" output is decided according to “the strength of the enemy which it should push down”(which means it has unlimited power depend on the user's will)
The fact that it's just gain the power of causing the disaster(but not planet destruction) even though he's plan to designated power above of that is because he didn't truly bare the the grudge at that level against humanity.

At last He was left for dead, but survive after got pick up by Aurrelus.


滝壺→レベル５どころか、学園都市全ての能力者を支配できる素養をもった凄い奴らしい。
Rikou→She's level 5 likes. An amazing person who had the knowledge which can control all espers in AC.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by Plant42

For some parts that has new informations.

Spoiler:

浜面→体晶を使って暴走した麦野に襲われるが、和解。その後ダークマターで鍛えた
兵器を持つ学園都市の追手に襲われるが、麦野・滝壺と協力してこれを撃退。
Hamazura→He use a Body Crystal(the things from Rikou's body) to attack the reckless Mugino but they can compromise in the end. After that he was attacked by a chaser of AC that wield a weapon forge with "Dark Matter" but he cooperate with Rikou and Mugino and manage to repulse it.



フィアンマ→第三の腕は「倒すべき敵の強度」に応じて出力が決まるため、
第三次世界大戦という
惑星そのものを滅ぼしかねない災厄を引き起こしてそれ以上の力を手にしようと画策していたが、
世界の人間達にそこまでの悪意がなかったため思ったほどの出力が出ず、
Fiamma→ "The third arm" output is decided according to “the strength of the enemy which it should push down”(which means it has unlimited power depend on the user's will)
The fact that it's just gain the power of causing the disaster(but not planet destruction) even though he's plan to designated power above of that is because he didn't truly bare the the grudge at that level against humanity.


滝壺→レベル５どころか、学園都市全ての能力者を支配できる素養をもった凄い奴らしい。
Rikou→She becomes level 5 likes. An amazing person who had the knowledge which can control all espers in AC.

So this means that Fiamma is a good guy but and didn't have a grufge against the world nor enough willpower to stand against Touma and then Aleister.
Level 5, Rikou? Wow, well with her power to manipulate other powers Shiage won't die by Mugino's love beams