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GyroidFanatic · 2008-05-31, 04:39

It's both. It has the original P3 with additions, and a separate sequel mode.

fict_ticious · 2008-05-31, 07:45

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

Vorpal blade, as with all other physical skills, just do note that at a certain point (usually when your level approaches or exceeds the enemies' level), it will stop giving you shuffle time even if you OHKO every enemy. Sure you might breeze through the levels faster with Vorpal Blade + boosts, but you don't get nearly enough out of the fight as you would if you get shuffle time. And at that point, the difference between a 9/10 minor arcana and a normal battle is too humongous to ignore, that it would be better to gang rape the mob (if you end the battle with it, it's the only 100% way of getting shuffle time).

Eh, not much of a problem. Last few parts of the sixth block have many enemies that are resistant/drain slash (dammit).

@MeganeShounen:
Indeed. Maralagidyne rocks.

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Besides, some of the Max Social Link events are worth experiencing, imho.

Gah, New Game+ here I come.

@Ledgem:
It's both games. For $30 brand new, to boot.

DragoonKain3 · 2008-05-31, 07:58

@MeganeShounen
Lemme double check later, but I'm pretty sure that the Regenerate series recovers a set amount of HP, while the Badge items recovers a % of your HP. (Yes I know, it's very stupid as the Mark items are analagous to the Invigorate series) As such, even though they're passive recover HP skills, they're still technically not the same family. Thus they should stack, but again, lemme double check, as I dunno if your hp is high enough to warrant 30 HP healed just by the badge alone.

Going by memory, I remember that the Regenerate series were worthless as your HP still goes up upon leveling (and thus increasing HP drained done by physical skills) but the amount they regenerate isn't. At the end game, you might have like 400+ hp, but you only still recover 21 hp (I believe thats the right number) via Regen 3. Which is around 5% of your HP; which really pales in comparison to the usual 15-30% drain of the physical skills. (Even after armsmaster, most useful skills in the end game costs MUCH more than what Regen 3 recovers)

MeganeShounen · 2008-05-31, 09:40

Yeah... that's the problem with the Regenerate skills. They're pretty useful early on, but when you hit HP levels past 200, they suddenly don't do much as good anymore. The Invigorate skills, however, are still nifty at times. I think of them as "permanent SP reduction". Like... a normal Thunder Reign costs 30 SP, then you only need to deduct the 7 SP (Invigorate 3) from that.

Also, when being asked to pick either vanilla P3 or FES, get FES. It's the vanilla P3, plus a whole lot more.

Sciel · 2008-06-05, 09:33

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...izabeth_00.jpg

WTFUX . Theres already a elizabeth figure in the works but no Yukari yet

fict_ticious · 2008-06-05, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Sciel

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...izabeth_00.jpg

WTFUX . Theres already a elizabeth figure in the works but no Yukari yet

Japan haet Yukari.
...
I want to buy Liz.

techiet · 2008-06-06, 00:36

Clearly, they're doing them in the order of my favorite characters from most to least favorite. (I kid, of course).

Need to pay for Mitsuru, then pre-order Liz. My poor, poor wallet.

Kagedanji · 2008-06-06, 01:30

Bah Yukari.

Liz.

solarknight123 · 2008-06-12, 23:53

Hey guys i was wondering, does anyone know the requirements to

Spoiler for P3 FES"the journey":

Kagedanji · 2008-06-13, 00:31

Talk to Junpei the proceeding three days and give him the right answers.

I think.

MeganeShounen · 2008-06-13, 00:44

Pretty much.

Even if there's a number of times that Junpei acts like a jerk towards Minato, just be a good guy and keep on urging him properly to remain by Chidori's side at all times. Basically, be a "matchmaker" or sorts.

Kagedanji · 2008-06-13, 01:54

Matchmake with a dead goth and a goatee'd videogamer?

MeganeShounen · 2008-06-13, 03:29

That's a way of putting it.

Then again, they made Junpei in the image of "the normal teenager who just wants to be somebody".

Also, probably the most normal guy among the cast. His dad is a normal alcoholic, and is still alive. Doesn't have any "baggage" from his past, much unlike the rest of SEES (including Minato).

solarknight123 · 2008-06-13, 18:21

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Originally Posted by MeganeShounen

That's a way of putting it.

Then again, they made Junpei in the image of "the normal teenager who just wants to be somebody".

Also, probably the most normal guy among the cast. His dad is a normal alcoholic, and is still alive. Doesn't have any "baggage" from his past, much unlike the rest of SEES (including Minato).

which is why he's one on my favorites

, thanks for the advice guys

solarknight123 · 2008-06-13, 21:28

btw i have another question that might come off as dumb, but you know when the main character and aigis summon a persona sometimes they say that persona's name, can they do that for all the persona in the game or just some of them?

MeganeShounen · 2008-06-13, 23:03

@solarknight123

Well, Igor DID say that his "guest" (Minato) had access to at least 160 different Personae (not including, of course, the Personae of his SEES co-members). That pretty much means that he can basically shout out the name of any Persona in his repertoire. While I haven't really tried fusing, equipping, and summoning each and every Persona there is... I bet he can call out those names.

tl;dr, the voice actor for Minato (Akira Ishida for the Japanese version, Yuri Lowenthal, who's also voicing Sasuke in the Naruto dub, in the English version) had to record at least 160 names.

This also applies to Aigis in Episode Aigis, but since it's pretty hard to get specific a Persona, due to the lack of a Compendium and the harder difficulty...

*still thinks that it's ironic for Aigis to summon Thanatos in Episode Aigis*

solarknight123 · 2008-06-14, 17:44

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Originally Posted by MeganeShounen

@solarknight123

Well, Igor DID say that his "guest" (Minato) had access to at least 160 different Personae (not including, of course, the Personae of his SEES co-members). That pretty much means that he can basically shout out the name of any Persona in his repertoire. While I haven't really tried fusing, equipping, and summoning each and every Persona there is... I bet he can call out those names.

tl;dr, the voice actor for Minato (Akira Ishida for the Japanese version, Yuri Lowenthal, who's also voicing Sasuke in the Naruto dub, in the English version) had to record at least 160 names.

This also applies to Aigis in Episode Aigis, but since it's pretty hard to get specific a Persona, due to the lack of a Compendium and the harder difficulty...

*still thinks that it's ironic for Aigis to summon Thanatos in Episode Aigis*

oh ok thanks. I was going to try to summon all the personas i have in my inventory so far and hear their names said. I wish there was a way to trigger it instead of it being at random.

btw why do you think it's ironic for Aigis to summon Thanatos?

solarknight123 · 2008-06-16, 12:01

Say, is it true that Orpheus Telos can help defeat the hidden boss? if so, how in what way?

MeganeShounen · 2008-06-17, 07:34

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Originally Posted by solarknight123

btw why do you think it's ironic for Aigis to summon Thanatos?

Well, didn't she have to seal Death into Minato 10 years back? Right?

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Originally Posted by solarknight123

Say, is it true that Orpheus Telos can help defeat the hidden boss? if so, how in what way?

Spoiler for Elizabeth, wall of text ahoy:

Elizabeth is the MOST difficult opponent in the game. Besides Nyx Avatar, she's the only enemy that can survive a direct hit of Armageddon (9999 damage, which is pretty much the damage cap in this game).

If you attempt to fight her while equipping any Persona (or equipping an accessory) with a Repel, Absorb or Null attribute, she'd automatically start the game by casting Megidolaon that deals 9999 damage to you, and practically spam you over and over again until you die, that is if you had Enduring Soul or the Spirit Bracers on to save your life the first time around. Bringing along your party members also makes her do this, since by the end of the game, they would have Null resistances.

The only way to avoid this is to equip a Persona that doesn't have the above aforementioned characteristics. Problem is... Personae that don't have Null, Absorb or Resist are pretty rare (not to mention low-leveled and weak at first). The only ones that I can recall from the top of my head are Kikuri-hime and Anubis.

And then you'd have to fuse them properly to make them inherit the best elemental spells you can use, since Elizabeth changes her Persona and her weak spot/Null attribute every now and then. That would take a looooot of time. And then there's also the time consuming task of leveling up your Persona to match Elizabeth's insane stats.

That's where Orpheus Telos comes in. He automatically comes with a strong resistance to ALL attributes. Not Null, Repel nor Absorb... but just Strong. That would let you enter the battle with Elizabeth without her Megidolaon opener and survive the fight throughout. Though, the challenge still lies in fusing the right Personae to give Orpheus Telos the right spells and skills and buffing his stats up.

Not to mention that the requirement for unlocking him is to max out all of the S. Links (including Aeon) in one playthrough. FES makes it easier to pull off S. Links, but it's still hard in the long run.

That being said... no, I still haven't defeated her....

solarknight123 · 2008-06-17, 11:10

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Originally Posted by MeganeShounen

Well, didn't she have to seal Death into Minato 10 years back? Right?

Spoiler for Elizabeth, wall of text ahoy:

Elizabeth is the MOST difficult opponent in the game. Besides Nyx Avatar, she's the only enemy that can survive a direct hit of Armageddon (9999 damage, which is pretty much the damage cap in this game).

If you attempt to fight her while equipping any Persona (or equipping an accessory) with a Repel, Absorb or Null attribute, she'd automatically start the game by casting Megidolaon that deals 9999 damage to you, and practically spam you over and over again until you die, that is if you had Enduring Soul or the Spirit Bracers on to save your life the first time around. Bringing along your party members also makes her do this, since by the end of the game, they would have Null resistances.

The only way to avoid this is to equip a Persona that doesn't have the above aforementioned characteristics. Problem is... Personae that don't have Null, Absorb or Resist are pretty rare (not to mention low-leveled and weak at first). The only ones that I can recall from the top of my head are Kikuri-hime and Anubis.

And then you'd have to fuse them properly to make them inherit the best elemental spells you can use, since Elizabeth changes her Persona and her weak spot/Null attribute every now and then. That would take a looooot of time. And then there's also the time consuming task of leveling up your Persona to match Elizabeth's insane stats.

That's where Orpheus Telos comes in. He automatically comes with a strong resistance to ALL attributes. Not Null, Repel nor Absorb... but just Strong. That would let you enter the battle with Elizabeth without her Megidolaon opener and survive the fight throughout. Though, the challenge still lies in fusing the right Personae to give Orpheus Telos the right spells and skills and buffing his stats up.

Not to mention that the requirement for unlocking him is to max out all of the S. Links (including Aeon) in one playthrough. FES makes it easier to pull off S. Links, but it's still hard in the long run.

That being said... no, I still haven't defeated her....

Wow

Spoiler for hidden boss:

2008-05-31, 07:58	Link #283
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	@MeganeShounen Lemme double check later, but I'm pretty sure that the Regenerate series recovers a set amount of HP, while the Badge items recovers a % of your HP. (Yes I know, it's very stupid as the Mark items are analagous to the Invigorate series) As such, even though they're passive recover HP skills, they're still technically not the same family. Thus they should stack, but again, lemme double check, as I dunno if your hp is high enough to warrant 30 HP healed just by the badge alone. Going by memory, I remember that the Regenerate series were worthless as your HP still goes up upon leveling (and thus increasing HP drained done by physical skills) but the amount they regenerate isn't. At the end game, you might have like 400+ hp, but you only still recover 21 hp (I believe thats the right number) via Regen 3. Which is around 5% of your HP; which really pales in comparison to the usual 15-30% drain of the physical skills. (Even after armsmaster, most useful skills in the end game costs MUCH more than what Regen 3 recovers) __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2008-06-06, 00:36	Link #287
techiet Shiori~ Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MN	Clearly, they're doing them in the order of my favorite characters from most to least favorite. (I kid, of course). Need to pay for Mitsuru, then pre-order Liz. My poor, poor wallet. __________________ Sig made by Klashikari

2008-06-06, 01:30	Link #288
Kagedanji Doughy goodness. I think. Join Date: Mar 2008	Bah Yukari. Liz. __________________

2008-06-12, 23:53	Link #289
solarknight123 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006	Hey guys i was wondering, does anyone know the requirements to Spoiler for P3 FES"the journey": reviving Chidori? __________________ Sig removed by Mod (xris) because it exceeds the limits as requested in the forum rules.

2008-06-13, 00:31	Link #290
Kagedanji Doughy goodness. I think. Join Date: Mar 2008	Talk to Junpei the proceeding three days and give him the right answers. I think. __________________

2008-05-31, 04:39	Link #281
GyroidFanatic Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004	It's both. It has the original P3 with additions, and a separate sequel mode.

2008-05-31, 09:40	Link #284
MeganeShounen Huh? Join Date: Nov 2004	Yeah... that's the problem with the Regenerate skills. They're pretty useful early on, but when you hit HP levels past 200, they suddenly don't do much as good anymore. The Invigorate skills, however, are still nifty at times. I think of them as "permanent SP reduction". Like... a normal Thunder Reign costs 30 SP, then you only need to deduct the 7 SP (Invigorate 3) from that. Also, when being asked to pick either vanilla P3 or FES, get FES. It's the vanilla P3, plus a whole lot more.

2008-06-05, 09:33	Link #285
Sciel Etoilé Join Date: Dec 2007	http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...izabeth_00.jpg WTFUX . Theres already a elizabeth figure in the works but no Yukari yet

2008-06-13, 00:44	Link #291
MeganeShounen Huh? Join Date: Nov 2004	Pretty much. Even if there's a number of times that Junpei acts like a jerk towards Minato, just be a good guy and keep on urging him properly to remain by Chidori's side at all times. Basically, be a "matchmaker" or sorts.

2008-06-13, 01:54	Link #292
Kagedanji Doughy goodness. I think. Join Date: Mar 2008	Matchmake with a dead goth and a goatee'd videogamer? __________________

2008-06-13, 03:29	Link #293
MeganeShounen Huh? Join Date: Nov 2004	That's a way of putting it. Then again, they made Junpei in the image of "the normal teenager who just wants to be somebody". Also, probably the most normal guy among the cast. His dad is a normal alcoholic, and is still alive. Doesn't have any "baggage" from his past, much unlike the rest of SEES (including Minato).

2008-06-13, 21:28	Link #295
solarknight123 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006	btw i have another question that might come off as dumb, but you know when the main character and aigis summon a persona sometimes they say that persona's name, can they do that for all the persona in the game or just some of them? __________________ Sig removed by Mod (xris) because it exceeds the limits as requested in the forum rules.

2008-06-13, 23:03	Link #296
MeganeShounen Huh? Join Date: Nov 2004	@solarknight123 Well, Igor DID say that his "guest" (Minato) had access to at least 160 different Personae (not including, of course, the Personae of his SEES co-members). That pretty much means that he can basically shout out the name of any Persona in his repertoire. While I haven't really tried fusing, equipping, and summoning each and every Persona there is... I bet he can call out those names. tl;dr, the voice actor for Minato (Akira Ishida for the Japanese version, Yuri Lowenthal, who's also voicing Sasuke in the Naruto dub, in the English version) had to record at least 160 names. This also applies to Aigis in Episode Aigis, but since it's pretty hard to get specific a Persona, due to the lack of a Compendium and the harder difficulty... still thinks that it's ironic for Aigis to summon Thanatos in Episode Aigis

2008-06-16, 12:01	Link #298
solarknight123 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006	Say, is it true that Orpheus Telos can help defeat the hidden boss? if so, how in what way? __________________ Sig removed by Mod (xris) because it exceeds the limits as requested in the forum rules.