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ookamigirl · 2012-01-21, 16:17

The right word to describe it was shock.
Lots of drama and sadness.
The unavoidable flashbacks were the only bright thing in it.
This episode felt like "In memory of..."
Really interesting episode.

KyriaL · 2012-01-21, 20:58

Personally, i felt the flashbacks were effective in describing the time the three of them had together and the bond between the brothers. However it seems that Kakeru magically seemed taller and cooler looking after the heart transplant, how convenient.
But its great he took his brother's death well after given some time.

ZGMF-X10A · 2012-01-22, 01:39

I guess that's one way the little brother will continue playing soccer. With his brother's heart, I wonder if his problems from using the left leg is gone or not. He did just his left leg when saving the girl and puppy which was shows how powerful he's going to be. Pretty sure he'll continue playing soccer once Kakeru finds out that his brother donated his heart to him. The problem now is who's going to give him those perfect passes. I wonder if Seven will start playing also, probably can't play in regular games though just like Aoba in Cross game.

Kazu-kun · 2012-01-22, 02:50

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Originally Posted by ZGMF-X10A

Pretty sure he'll continue playing soccer once Kakeru finds out that his brother donated his heart to him. The problem now is who's going to give him those perfect passes.

Well, going by the OP alone you can see there are a few characters yet to be introduced. The king to Kakeru's knight might be one of those.

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Originally Posted by ZGMF-X10A

I wonder if Seven will start playing also, probably can't play in regular games though just like Aoba in Cross game.

Seven can't play with the male team but there are other possibilities for her:

1) Transferring to a school with a female team. This way she could even participate in the Inter High.

2) After middle school she could try for one of the teams of the Nadeshiko league.

3) As revealed in this episode, she promised Suguru and Kakeru that the three of them would wear the blue uniform of the Japanese national team. This means that her personal goal is to play as a member of Nadeshiko Japan. How is she gonna achieve that is anyone guess though.

SoFarGone · 2012-01-22, 02:54

Wow did they skip a lot of scenes or what? I would of expected them to at least have him in the hospital longer than half an episode. Also disappointed that the

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leongsh · 2012-01-22, 03:23

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Originally Posted by SoFarGone

Wow did they skip a lot of scenes or what? I would of expected them to at least have him in the hospital longer than half an episode. Also disappointed that the

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Nightengale · 2012-01-22, 04:20

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Originally Posted by SoFarGone

Wow did they skip a lot of scenes or what? I would of expected them to at least have him in the hospital longer than half an episode. Also disappointed that the

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I don't think the timeslot for this allows that level of gore.

I mean, they didn't even show the bloody head.

Yume Hanabi · 2012-01-22, 08:31

Am I the only one who thought

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that the reactions to Suguru's death were handled poorly? There was fail on both the doctor and Kakeru's part.

Firstly, Kakeru... Honestly, if you believe your brother is still going to school like usual ("Didn't he tell you I'd quit?"), why aren't you wondering why he doesn't come visit you at the hospital? Nana's been coming every day, but it doesn't seem strange to you that your own brother would ignore you like that? Also, if you can remember a conversation that happened right before the accident, you should also remember that your brother was with you at the time (he is, after all, who you were talking with). So how come you're not wondering if he's OK? Maybe it's just me, but if it had been me, when the doctor started saying "listen well, I have bad news", I wouldn't be going "huh?", I'd be going "omg is it my brother, did something happen to him too?" >_>
Freaking out when learning the truth was good, but I'd have liked some scenes later showing he's grieving or something. It goes "oh no, my brother, it can't be, you're lying!" to "yay I'm out of the hospital; btw I'm still quitting the club" (I know I exaggerate a bit, but it really seemed to me that the characters were acting as if nothing serious had happened. I know it's 2 months later, but still).

And that doctor... First, wtf slapping your patient like that. I know that in anime, slap=come back to your senses, but I have a hard time swallowing the fact it's a doctor who does that (without even trying other means to calm him). Couldn't Nana or one of the guys have done it? >_>
Also, maybe it's just me again, but she really seems to come out of nowhere to drop the bomb. Worst, it looks like she just decided to tell him like that, without thinking. idk, but shouldn't you deliver that kind of news with a little more care? (And shouldn't have you asked the friends to leave the room first?) Also, where the heck are his parents? Shouldn't it be their role to tell him?

Super kick that saves the girl was also a bit over the top (made me think of Conan rofl), but w/e.

I hope next episode will be better, because this one made me want to bang my head on my desk more than once.

That aside, I really enjoyed the flashbacks.

germanturkey · 2012-01-22, 12:51

got a kenshin persona going on there.. complete with narrowed eyes. haha

kitten320 · 2012-01-22, 15:16

Didn't like the last scene, it looked very off and makes it look like Kakeru is not there anymore, just Suguru what is unbelievable.

Arya · 2012-01-22, 19:09

I'm the clinical psychiatrist, mmm no
I'm the cynical psychiatrist, not even
I'm the clinical bitch ok, sound fitting.
I can't say how weird that question was. I mean, probably it was needed to give us a hint on what will come, but it was really creepy.

Anyways I liked this episode.

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Kazu-kun · 2012-01-22, 19:33

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I don't know about that. Remeber Kakeru thought Seven liked Suguru because he saw her giving Suguru a gilft before leaving the team. But episode 3 revealed that gift contained two misanga, one for Suguru and another one for Kakeru.

Basically, Kakeru misunderstood that scene. Most likely Seven never liked Suguru like Kakeru thought.

It should be noted though, that when Suguru gave Kakeru his misanga he didn't tell him it was from Seven. I wonder if Suguru didn't tell him because he was jealous of Kakeru....

kitten320 · 2012-01-22, 19:44

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I can't say how weird that question was.

I didn't get it at first before the heart transplant was mentioned

If Kakeru will keep changing hard like that, it really is better to keep the whole heart transplant a secret from not only him but everyone else. Because comments like "That's Suguru's power" will 100% pop up and instead of accepting Kakeru for whom he is, they will see Suguru and that's depressing.

Arya · 2012-01-22, 20:00

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

I don't know about that. Remeber Kakeru thought Seven liked Suguru because he saw her giving Suguru a gilft before leaving the team. But episode 3 revealed that gift contained two misanga, one for Suguru and another one for Kakeru.

Basically, Kakeru misunderstood that scene. Most likely Seven never liked Suguru like Kakeru thought.

It should be noted though, that when Suguru gave Kakeru his misanga he didn't tell him it was from Seven. I wonder if Suguru didn't tell him because he was jealous of Kakeru....

I thought the same before the preview, but the way they put that the answer he gives to Nana made me rethink the all thing. But it easily could be a red herring. Nana until now gives us little hints at whom she care for the most.

Kazu-kun · 2012-01-22, 20:28

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Nana until now gives us little hints at whom she care for the most.

You think so? I think there are hints, although they are pretty subtle. For instance, Nana has always spent more time with Kakeru than with Suguru. Also, in this episode she said she won't quit the club, right after telling Kakura that all the girls that entered the club because of Suguru had quit. There also her reaction to the accident at the end of episode 2 (she only screams Kakeru's name).

In fact, most of the time Seven and Suguru were interacting, they were always talking about Kakeru.

Arya · 2012-01-23, 03:08

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

You think so? I think there are hints, although they are pretty subtle. For instance, Nana has always spent more time with Kakeru than with Suguru. Also, in this episode she said she won't quit the club, right after telling Kakura that all the girls that entered the club because of Suguru had quit. There also her reaction to the accident at the end of episode 2 (she only screams Kakeru's name).

In fact, most of the time Seven and Suguru were interacting, they were always talking about Kakeru.

Probably I didn't express myself properly, the red herring is the preview. The little hints I was referred to are the same you wrote here.

My only doubts are related to how Nana reacted to that question and that we don't have enough information from the flashbacks to say something more. Because if Nana had at least a crush on Suguru back then it would give more consistency to the currently, and hard to die I bet, Kakeru's misunderstanding.

-Sho- · 2012-01-25, 09:48

No matter what i look at those red shirts , i'm thinking of Spiderman lol

Anyway , looks like there was some animations drop but well , it didn't matter , the drama was good enough & yes , the ending scene was so -.-

Guardian Enzo · 2012-01-25, 20:07

Looks like a nice boost for the manga - broke into the top 10 at #5 this week, with almost 80K units sold.

Kazu-kun · 2012-01-25, 20:39

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Looks like a nice boost for the manga - broke into the top 10 at #5 this week, with almost 80K units sold.

Glad to hear it. I'm not all that pleased with the anime adaptation but if it helps to increase manga sales then it's ok. The manga is awesome, specially the parts focusing on women's football.

Von Himmel · 2012-01-27, 16:32

Am I the only one who started to read this manga because of Nana?

Finally finished it until the recent chapter and I think it's pretty good. After that, my friend told me that there's an anime adaptation for this one, and it's recent too

(which surprised me..a lot)

So then I decided to try the adaptation. Do you think the adaptation is good enough?

2012-01-21, 16:17	Link #121
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	The right word to describe it was shock. Lots of drama and sadness. The unavoidable flashbacks were the only bright thing in it. This episode felt like "In memory of..." Really interesting episode. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2012-01-22, 01:39	Link #123
ZGMF-X10A Tsukiyomi -Moon Phase- Join Date: Jun 2003	I guess that's one way the little brother will continue playing soccer. With his brother's heart, I wonder if his problems from using the left leg is gone or not. He did just his left leg when saving the girl and puppy which was shows how powerful he's going to be. Pretty sure he'll continue playing soccer once Kakeru finds out that his brother donated his heart to him. The problem now is who's going to give him those perfect passes. I wonder if Seven will start playing also, probably can't play in regular games though just like Aoba in Cross game. __________________

2012-01-22, 02:54	Link #125
SoFarGone H.A.M. Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: somewhere on this planet	Wow did they skip a lot of scenes or what? I would of expected them to at least have him in the hospital longer than half an episode. Also disappointed that the Spoiler: "steelpipe through chest wasn't shown" __________________

2012-01-22, 08:31	Link #128
Yume Hanabi Member Join Date: Mar 2011	Am I the only one who thought Spoiler for ep3: that the reactions to Suguru's death were handled poorly? There was fail on both the doctor and Kakeru's part. Firstly, Kakeru... Honestly, if you believe your brother is still going to school like usual ("Didn't he tell you I'd quit?"), why aren't you wondering why he doesn't come visit you at the hospital? Nana's been coming every day, but it doesn't seem strange to you that your own brother would ignore you like that? Also, if you can remember a conversation that happened right before the accident, you should also remember that your brother was with you at the time (he is, after all, who you were talking with). So how come you're not wondering if he's OK? Maybe it's just me, but if it had been me, when the doctor started saying "listen well, I have bad news", I wouldn't be going "huh?", I'd be going "omg is it my brother, did something happen to him too?" >_> Freaking out when learning the truth was good, but I'd have liked some scenes later showing he's grieving or something. It goes "oh no, my brother, it can't be, you're lying!" to "yay I'm out of the hospital; btw I'm still quitting the club" (I know I exaggerate a bit, but it really seemed to me that the characters were acting as if nothing serious had happened. I know it's 2 months later, but still). And that doctor... First, wtf slapping your patient like that. I know that in anime, slap=come back to your senses, but I have a hard time swallowing the fact it's a doctor who does that (without even trying other means to calm him). Couldn't Nana or one of the guys have done it? >_> Also, maybe it's just me again, but she really seems to come out of nowhere to drop the bomb. Worst, it looks like she just decided to tell him like that, without thinking. idk, but shouldn't you deliver that kind of news with a little more care? (And shouldn't have you asked the friends to leave the room first?) Also, where the heck are his parents? Shouldn't it be their role to tell him? Super kick that saves the girl was also a bit over the top (made me think of Conan rofl), but w/e. I hope next episode will be better, because this one made me want to bang my head on my desk more than once. That aside, I really enjoyed the flashbacks. __________________

2012-01-22, 12:51	Link #129
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	got a kenshin persona going on there.. complete with narrowed eyes. haha __________________ Aria is the best series EVER. Rewatch Origination with me. Blessed are those who listen to headphones, for they listen to the sound of heaven.

2012-01-21, 20:58	Link #122
KyriaL You are Reading this! Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: In the study room	Personally, i felt the flashbacks were effective in describing the time the three of them had together and the bond between the brothers. However it seems that Kakeru magically seemed taller and cooler looking after the heart transplant, how convenient. But its great he took his brother's death well after given some time.

2012-01-22, 15:16	Link #130
kitten320 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007	Didn't like the last scene, it looked very off and makes it look like Kakeru is not there anymore, just Suguru what is unbelievable. __________________ My anime list

2012-01-22, 19:09	Link #131
Arya Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	I'm the clinical psychiatrist, mmm no I'm the cynical psychiatrist, not even I'm the clinical bitch ok, sound fitting. I can't say how weird that question was. I mean, probably it was needed to give us a hint on what will come, but it was really creepy. Anyways I liked this episode. Spoiler for ep.3: The outcome really surprise me, Suguru's death was unexpected, I thought permanently injured but not dead. when I've understood of the transplant I got not good vibes about it. I mean, I was expecting Kakeru's guilty feelings just from the accident, adding the transplant I said, ok, from bad to worse. On the contrary they take, luckily, another route, or so it seems. And I'm also glad that the fears of cowardly accuses from schoolmates are gone. And I find quite realistic that everyone are trying to cheer him up more than anything. They have quite a long time to starting to blame him or hold it against him. From the preview I got that probably Nana confessed to Suguru. And this'd explain, if need be, how weird that question was. Last but not the least, sugur-ayan mode is ridiculous, just a bit. I really hope they will lighten the transformation now that we got the idea. __________________ *The meaning of things lies not in the things themselves, but in our attitude towards them.*

2012-01-25, 09:48	Link #137
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	No matter what i look at those red shirts , i'm thinking of Spiderman lol Anyway , looks like there was some animations drop but well , it didn't matter , the drama was good enough & yes , the ending scene was so -.-

2012-01-27, 16:32	Link #140
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	Am I the only one who started to read this manga because of Nana? Finally finished it until the recent chapter and I think it's pretty good. After that, my friend told me that there's an anime adaptation for this one, and it's recent too (which surprised me..a lot) So then I decided to try the adaptation. Do you think the adaptation is good enough? __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」