2008-02-27, 20:16 | Link #81 |
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Why ? We are fully capable of "massive war" today just as fine, with much greater efficiency than any impractical, humanoid, building sized mecha (which is a disadvantage in every shape and form) could ever hope to offer.
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2008-02-27, 20:24 | Link #82 | |
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2008-02-27, 20:49 | Link #83 | |
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No matter which technology develops the threat of war remains the same. I'd consider the army of super soldiers a bigger threat. Hell, even normal soldiers are a bigger concern than machines, provided the right stimulus you could get them to do whatever you want for next to no cost. You still need ground troops for any chance o sustaining an invasion dispatching just a mecha battalion or a airforce squadron on its own isn't going to gain or keep territory.
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2008-02-27, 22:13 | Link #84 | |
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70kmh to match a current tank 300kmh to match a apache 300kmh for warthog at attack speed That is not even considering that the weapons fire go much faster then the vehicles do. Tanks and land based mecha being restricted to 2d means that all they really can do versus the speed of airborne stuff is hide.
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2008-02-27, 23:43 | Link #85 | |
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actually i was leaning to the side of actual combat usage if they ever figure out how to power it and make the movement more linear and fluid. It may be too expensive to use, but for elite squad I could see a few of these things do massive damage. Possible usage in combat. Airdrop straight into enemy camp. By doing this the suit need the heavy armor of a tank, just enough armor to protect the user from frag grenades and rifle fires. Hell The unit could easily support 500lb worth of Kevlar, that should more than sufficient protect the user and two .50mm vulcan cannon used to shoot down jets. What do you think of this suggestion? While typing this I was reminded of Shock Trooper from C&C, heavy infantry doing construction work during downtime. |
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2008-02-28, 00:27 | Link #86 | |
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If the suit can somehow allow the pilots to survive the impact of dropping straight down, I think they'd do plenty of damage just by crashing through the roofs of the buildings they're supposed to be attacking. |
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2008-02-28, 03:34 | Link #88 | |
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Now, this exoskeleton suit would be good for construction, in supply areas, or even in loading heavy rounds into artillery. Until you can make armor like Master Chief's, I don't think something like that is feasible in the front lines.
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2008-02-28, 03:48 | Link #89 |
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I could imagine a use for such a heavily protected exoskeleton suit. In warfare it is often necessary to control urban areas, which otfen involves close quarter combat. Usually heavy weaponry is not used inside buildings, there heavily armored troops could operate far more safely. And maybe use non lethal means to disable armed enemies, which is of great importance if civilians or hostages are located in the operation area.
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2008-02-28, 04:19 | Link #91 | |
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2008-02-28, 04:54 | Link #92 | ||
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I was thinking of a suit similar to what bomb squats wear. But supported by an exosceleton and servos. It would basically just intensify movement strength of the operaor in order to compensate for the extra weight of the heavy armor. Of course mobility will be decreased. Though not the entire team need to be deployed in such suits. The unit that is storming forefront however, could benefit from above average additional balastic and melee protection. And in that sense serving as a possible cover for other less protected units. Quote:
Such a unit will usually attract most fire since it is the biggest and first of the units moving in, this will aid the other units in disabling the enemy.
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2008-02-28, 10:27 | Link #93 |
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that's also not to include fighting in extreme environments. arctic, desert, altitude, deep sea, areas with bc/nuclear contamination that's just by simply adding the appropriate protection. Napalm is still used AFAIK, as well as whole host of extremely toxic chemicals in day to day field ops. Also consider that the larger weight carrying capacity allows them to carry more ammunition, extending their combat capability. Or alternatively larger more destructive weapons. A LAW weighs around 10 kgs. Realistically you could carry one LAW and maybe 3-4 rounds plus your standard weapons, pistol + 2-3 clips, SMG + 2-3clips and your other field equipment. You could realistically double or triple that. Building sandbag emplacements would be far more efficient. It'd be a boon for minesweeping operations and bomb disposal as well, as providing it with adequate armor (reactive possibly?) greatly increases survivability. So personally I think the exo skeleton concept is far more realistic as there are clear areas where it upgrades current limitations. Where as a 30ft mech does not.
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Still a bit cannon fodderish , wiki says Quote:
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2008-02-28, 14:17 | Link #95 | |
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Ask the German's about the WWII failure of the over engineered Tiger vs the cheap and reliable Russian T34
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2008-03-20, 19:16 | Link #96 |
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This isn't exactly new, but I just ran across it and didn't see this posted here, so I'll bring it up.
I've maintained for a long while that walking mecha could very well have military application for navigating terrain that can't be driven over, and that four legged mecha would be the way to start that. Behold, the Boston Dynamics "Big Dog", partly funded by DARPA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww It's not perfect, but remarkable nonetheless even if the design weren't so simple and crude.
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