2014-03-06, 19:39 | Link #2841 | |
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Don't get me wrong I know I post my dislike for series too but it is usually for a few weeks and then I do the sensible thing and drop the show. Nagi no Asukara is not perfect but I am still mostly loving every minute of it. Granted I haven't seen the latest episode so maybe I will see the errors of my way and realize what a disaster this show is.
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2014-03-06, 20:23 | Link #2844 |
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Well, in this show you can never be sure of anything unless you have a direct statement, and sometime not even then, but the fact is that there are some hints suggesting she has feelings for Tsumugu too, so I understand where kuromitsu's coming from.
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2014-03-06, 20:27 | Link #2845 |
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Maybe Manaka losing the ability to love will push forward some of the characters who still need to confess. Y'know, realizing how you need to make a move before it's too late, appreciating what you have, etc.
I'm mainly referring to Tsumugu, Sayu, maybe Miuna too? Last edited by kresslia; 2014-03-06 at 21:33. |
2014-03-06, 22:32 | Link #2847 |
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Well, that was a lot of info dump at once. They could have spread that out a bit more in earlier episodes. Other than the reval the episode was pretty slow and hardly any development. It looks like Kaname has backed off of Chisaki for now. Tsumugu is still taking forever to address he feelings to her. So I was onto something there lol. Anyway, I can see that Miuna will sacrifice herself so that Manaka can have her heart back. Or maybe she will be Uroko-sama's wife XD. Or someone will make some equal trade off.
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2014-03-06, 22:37 | Link #2848 |
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Oh, now it all makes sense with the umbrella in the OP! Manaka lost her ability to love, and the umbrella coming back to her would be her getting it back again. The red umbrella comes from Miuna because she likes Hikari like Manaka's pre-hibernation self, and thus no one is better qualified than Miuna to teach Manaka how to love again.
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2014-03-06, 22:59 | Link #2849 |
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I think it is an interesting twist about Manaka, but honestly I think I wouldn't of had her so happy go lucky. It doesn't gel well with a girl who is supposed to not love.
I mean from all appearances Manaka is completely happy, more so than anyone actually. And when they say she isn't able to love anyone is that just romantically or can she not feel any love at all? I assume it is just romantically. edit: Reading through Triple R's post, he's right without the ability to love, Manaka seems to have it the best because she feels no pain of disappointment. But I guess the question is that pain worth it in the end? I wonder if Nagi no Asukara will capture that theme.
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2014-03-06, 23:49 | Link #2850 | |
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While Chisaki and Miuna look back fondly on their childhood (or the childhood they wished they had, in Miuna's case), Manaka is actually granted the natural mentality of a child; while some characters fear changing/moving forward, Manaka ends up regressing in a sense. Personally, I find this pretty fascinating. There's some different ways Okada could go with this, and it'll be interesting to see why one(s) she chooses.
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2014-03-07, 01:57 | Link #2851 |
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An info-dump indeed. As for whether or no it "could have been spread out in previous eps"... well, maybe theoretically it could have, but I dunno, I think it worked ok for me. In general a lot of things fall into place (I guess on a "meta" level), but even I think it sheds a little bit of info on individual charas in the series too.
I think one of the reasons this method of presentation is working with me is because while it is a big info dump and makes me want to go back several eps and re-watch the pieces being scattered to us inthe light of the newly acquired sketch of the whole picture on a meta level it does NOT address the "drama dynamic" - that is the element of the story that many viewers have become effectively entangled in and are interested to see the resolution thereof. Tl;dr? Great work. Looking forward to the resolution of this great series. ^^
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2014-03-07, 04:59 | Link #2852 |
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Well, four episodes left and I'm also starting to be pessimistic about the ending. But probably it's just because I'm not very fond of info-dump episodes.
On the Tsumugu / Chisaki front instead it seems that Kaname realized something, probably that he has no chances and maybe is trying to move on. Or not, he was just probing the actual situation. Surely it would be appreciated if Chisaki'd give Kaname an answer. But giving the little time reserved to them I doubt the show will explore nothing more than just the essential.
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2014-03-07, 05:54 | Link #2853 |
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I think Chisaki answered Kaname pretty unambiguously when they were the same age. I certainly don't think a five-year age gap added is going to move the needle in his favor. I feel badly for him, don't get me wrong, but he certainly shouldn't feel as though he's been strung along.
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2014-03-07, 07:19 | Link #2856 |
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I didn't have a problem with this info-dumb because...
1) It was organic. 2) It was about time that we learned some new things. What I mean by "organic" is that it didn't feel artificial. Having some narrator voice spill the beans on a bunch of important plot points can often feel artificial. Having the main villain reveal every last detail of his complex master plan can also feel artificial ("broad strokes" reveals to gloat about it can be fine, but revealing every last thing really is dumb). But Uroko is not a narrator, and nor is he a villain, really. He has no particular reason to keep Hikari and Miuna in the dark. In fact, the way he's being hounded, it makes sense he'd eventually tire of the chase and decide "F it, I'll tell them what they want to know". So why wouldn't he lay it all out there this time? Honestly, having the curtain slowly pulled back and information revealed bit by bit in a piecemeal fashion, can often feel artificial itself. So I'm happy with the info-dump here.
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2014-03-07, 08:35 | Link #2858 |
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lol, well... There is a certain silliness to parts of the narrative, and its overall handling of its "end of the world" plotline. So I guess my viewpoint here came out as a Freudian slip.
But I really am glad that the Sea God just can't hand-wave everything away, even if the exact mechanics of that is a bit silly.
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2014-03-07, 10:19 | Link #2859 | |
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