2011-11-14, 17:32 | Link #2182 |
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The two kids (one just a voice - Shu, the other a silhouette - Gai) in Shu's dream in episode 5 are credited as "young Gai" and "young Shu".
Also, what the silhouette kid says in the dream is an echo of Gai's words at the end of episode 4 - "ore wo shinjirou (yo)" ("Believe in me"). There's also the question of how Gai knew Shu's name in the first episode, and his "this time, show me that you can protect it" also raises a question mark for me...
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2011-11-14, 17:51 | Link #2183 | |
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Ah, ic. That's indeed interesting. Thanks.
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2011-11-14, 17:55 | Link #2184 | |
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As for as I can see, those who have been vocal critics have not taken to massively generalizing people with contrary opinions, assuming since they must like or not like Guilty Crown must mean a bunch of completely irrelevant assumptions about them. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd like the same kind of due respect back. :S I really don't understand critcism-phobia. If I reacted violently to every time someone hates something I like, I'd have died of a dozen heart attacks already. Tl;DR No, I won't shut up.
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2011-11-14, 17:56 | Link #2185 | |
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I agree with DragoZero. The constant criticism and criticism of the criticizers are really dragging this thread down the toilet. Can we move on to something else? It like the criticism is taking over the thread.
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2011-11-14, 18:16 | Link #2186 | |||
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Most of your dislike does come from the fact that the serie is still keeping lot's of things a mysterie.
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The mecha's are mostly in the plot to enforce the sci fi settings and are not the centre of the series. If you really wanted a mecha serie, then your obvious choice was gundam age for this season. Quote:
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As for the pacing and tension, i don't understand from your explanation why you think the pacing is horrible. It's as if you think that every serie needs a big plot twist or cliffhanger to be interesting. Some of the slower episodes so far introduces us what a void can do (episode 3) and some character development like in episode 5. There is nothing wrong with those seeing that the series has 22 episodes. edit: the serie does has it faults, but the points that you have mentioned does seem weak to me. Last edited by hyl; 2011-11-14 at 18:31. |
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2011-11-14, 18:30 | Link #2187 | |
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Makoto Shinkai movies are simply a case of "why should I care?" The characters weren't interesting, his stories are told when it should be showed, and while I felt sad when reading the summaries, the actual movies made me go, "Is that it?", if I don't fall asleep first. It honestly bothers me how much hype his movies have when the actual creation process seems to have more drama than the dramatic movie itself (Makoto Shinkai really works hard). One thing in particular that bothers me about his movies, and GC, is that there are practically no "happy" moments (how many scenes has Shu actually smiled in?). The characters rarely cheer up, and whenever they do, it's usually downplayed. I'm sorry, but if there are no happy moments to contrast the sad moments, then why should I care when a sad moment occurs? Why should I care if tragedy occurs when you're always sad and lonely to begin with? I don't know if it's a popular thought, but I stick with it, nevertheless. (hopefully, this is my last criticism for a while, and I can get back to making fun of Inori's outfit ^_^)
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2011-11-14, 18:39 | Link #2188 | |
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He does seem happier when he was with Inori and when he accepted in the group in episode 5 than when he was in his old school life with his quasi friends. |
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2011-11-14, 18:47 | Link #2189 | |
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2011-11-14, 18:52 | Link #2190 |
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I dunno; I think I got more from 20 minutes out of 5cm than many a production (not just Guilty Crown). True 5cm had to run at a faster pace and the characters are harder to care for, I just felt it managed to tell a story in a very nice manner.
I suppose the infodump was a bit much, but Guilty Crown could use some.
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2011-11-14, 19:05 | Link #2191 |
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I am bit confused why Guilty Crown is being compared to Whisper of the Heart & Makokot Shinkai. I definitely do not see the similarities personally.
edit: Decided to edit my post because even under a cut I don't want to keep criticizing. Sorry!
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2011-11-14, 19:13 | Link #2192 |
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I brought up the Makoto Shinkai thing because GC is a beautifully animated product with good ideas, but it still manages to bore me due to how little "happy moments" there are. Whisper of the Heart...I just wanted to make it clear that I liked it as an entertaining romance anime.
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2011-11-14, 20:36 | Link #2193 | ||
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It's true that it was unusual that Gai knew Shu's name. From your line of thinking, it probably meant that Shu failed to "protect" the childhood girl (a.k.a. Inori's precursor). Quote:
Say for instance, you are a Dallas Mavericks' fan. They win the NBA Championship, and you are in quite a positive buzz. You only have great feelings and great things to say. Along comes a negative person that says that the main reason why the Mavericks won is because the referees "helped" them win. Whatever enjoyment you had is now tainted with this negative remark. It does not matter if it is correct or not. It is just a fact that you threw a wrench in someone else's fun, and you want them to feel as down as you are feeling. Negative feeling is contagious, and it ruins the fun for others around. If you are going to a party with a group of friends, but there is one friend who is currently very negative and down, would you want to bring him along? Usually not because he would bring down the mood of the group. You would most likely leave him at home. This is all I want to discuss about this for the thread. If you want to continue this discussion, you are more than welcome to PM me.
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2011-11-14, 21:44 | Link #2194 | ||
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But that's just me. I am simply not that insecure to have my enjoyment ruined because some idiot said something different. If I were a fan and saw criticisms, I'd see if they made sense. If it's some fool doing some incoherent rambling, I'd simply laugh at them for being silly. Now if you had said, someone barged in saying "Dallas fans are fucktards!" That's different. That's just aiming to insult people and would indeed ruin the mood. Can't speak for anyone else, but I don't have a single problem with anyone liking the show. Quote:
This is an open forum, and I don't think it's right to ask people to stop talking because you disagree with them. Acting as such comes across as taking ownership of a thread. I certainly have no intention of doing that to people, and I expect the same from others. If worse comes to worse there's an ignore list. That being said, I would say it's a bit inappropriate to be overbearing over a show. Repeatedly invoking the same criticisms (OMG Shu sucks) is indeed counterproductive and pointless, and that should be curtailed. But it's clear that this line appears to be different for you and me. However, I also feel that nothing is forcing one to read posts they don't want to either. It's far easier to mute someone on the internet as opposed to real life. That is what I think, and that's how I roll; I simply don't feel the need to hold back since I never try to personally attack anyone. I'm not trying to prove anyone right and wrong, and nor do I wish to make this a debate . But yea PMs or w/e will be fine if anyone seriously wants to talk about this.
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2011-11-14, 22:12 | Link #2195 | |
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I just hate that guy.
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2011-11-15, 00:07 | Link #2199 | |
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2011-11-15, 00:11 | Link #2200 |
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I haven't found enough Tsugumi wallpapers around the Internet, especially her with someone else. I wonder when there will be a larger explosion of her artwork? I am guessing around the time they finally pull out her void object, which I'm very much looking forward to. Nekomimi headphones?
As for the episode, I am wondering what purpose does Gai/The Undertakers want the Leukocyte for? If it is to destroy it, then that is fine. However, if he wants it to use it on something, then the question is what?
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