The 2009 Re-Launch of Haruhi Suzumiya (General Discussion)

[Heatth]

I agree. But the can have a finale that is a finish.

The Intrigues's prologue wouldn't be a epic finale, but would end the Disappearence story at last.

[Tyabann]

Yeah, they could definitely do that.

[prnoct90]

I mean, I haven't read the novels, but what about The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina? I always figured that would be the last episode.

[Heatth]

"The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" is like a prelude to volume 7. It doesn't fit on this season as well as the actual prolugue of Intrigues. Sound weird, but is true.

[quigonkenny]

The way I thought I'd do it is this:

Spoiler for massive spoilers for Volume 4 and the Volume 7 prologue:

Have the lion's share of the first half of the Intrigues prologue during the last episode of Disappearance. When alter!Ryoko stabs Kyon(D) and he starts getting fuzzy as to what he sees, continue up until the point where we get a hint at seeing Kyon(I), and cut for commercial. When we come back, we're centered on Kyon(I), Yuki(I), and Mikuru(small) as they pop in from the future, and then we run through the in-the-past events of the Intrigues prologue from the point of view of Kyon(I), up to the point where he goes back cuttting probably at the Mikuru(big) line where she says "Fufu, maybe I'll let you kiss me." Then we quick-cut to Kyon(D) waking up in the hospital bed and finish Disappearance normally, adding a line establishing that this Kyon doesn't remember anything from before the commercial break if it's not obvious from conversation.

At the end of "Where Did the Cat Go?", we go right into the Intrigues prologue and up to the point where they leave into the past. After the ED, they come back from the past and as a coda to the episode and season, he has his innrer monologue about the "emergency trump card".

At least that's what I thought I wanted to do, but...

Spoiler for more of the same:

in reading back over the Intrigues prologue, I realized that as a whole it does fit better at the end of the season. If for no other reason than Yuki's "Because I don't want to" line adds to the perfect ending and link back to Disappearance, as the author intended. I still think we should have the Intrigues prologue end the season, but have it done more or less in the order it was written (with a little overlapping and flipping as necessary), as long as we get that "Because I don't want to" line in the last half of the last episode. I'll let KyoAni work out the details.

[aegisofrime]

Arrrgg. I can't wait until the 18th! I'm really tempted to go and read the Light Novels again, but I'm worried that will spoil the experience.

[Heatth]

If you already had read how could you be spoiled? Your experience is already "spoiled", you already know what will happen, this can't be changed, unless you had forgot (but you will remember just before what heppen, anyway).

Don't worry too much. You can't be suprised by the show anymore, but you can enjoy in diferent ways. Looking for easter eggs, pay atention on some details and etcetera.

If you want to read then go read. Sinse you already knows the story you can read only the parts that you like. Leting the remaining the see animated.

Or, if you realy "forget" and don't whant to "spoil" yourself, you can read the chapters as they are being realesed. Reading the BLR, and/or "Mystérique Sign" and "Lone Island Syndrome" by now and then reading "Endless Eight" on 18th, the begining of Sighs on 25th and so on.

[musume_no_hoshi]

If anyone is wondering whether we'll get another opening, Hirano's new single is out at 2009/07/22. Which seems to fit in with the timing of the -so-called-opening.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=LACM-4631

On a personal note, I do think there would be a new opening, just because this single seems to be out at the right time. Hey milking a series is what KyoAni does best.

[aegisofrime]

Frankly, Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody is the first ever work of fiction that I read first before seeing an animated adaption. It's not that the Light Novels aren't good... I just think that in some things, visual impact is important.

For example... One scene I can think of that I will rather see animated than read about is...

Spoiler for The Disappearance:

Yuki smiling

And of course, I'm trying very hard to forget about what I read. Without much success, sigh...

[prnoct90]

Originally Posted by Heatth

"The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" is like a prelude to volume 7. It doesn't fit on this season as well as the actual prolugue of Intrigues. Sound weird, but is true.

But if they are going for chronological order, doesn't "The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" happen in January, and then Volume 7 doesn't actually start until February? If that's the case, "The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" would work as a good cliffhanger for a 3rd season right?

[Heatth]

I don't think so.

Anyway, the volume 7 happens on February, but the prologue heppens on January, just after "Where Did The Cat Go?".

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Originally Posted by aegisofrime

One scene I can think of that I will rather see animated than read about is...

Spoiler for The Disappearance:

Yuki smiling

Only reason I'm looking forward to the Disappearance eps

Originally Posted by prnoct90

But if they are going for chronological order, doesn't "The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" happen in January, and then Volume 7 doesn't actually start until February? If that's the case, "The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" would work as a good cliffhanger for a 3rd season right?

Originally Posted by Heatth

I don't think so.

Anyway, the volume 7 happens on February, but the prologue heppens on anuary, just after "Where Did The Cat Go?".

Yeah, the prologue takes place before Melancholy of Mikuru, which is why most people are expecting them to either include MoM as part of Intrigues or shove the prologue at the end of this 28 episode run.

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by prnoct90

But if they are going for chronological order, doesn't "The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" happen in January, and then Volume 7 doesn't actually start until February? If that's the case, "The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" would work as a good cliffhanger for a 3rd season right?

Problem is, if we're only getting 28 episodes, and they're staying chronological and not skipping any, they won't be able to get to MoM. It'll make a great first episode for season "two", though, so I'm perfectly fine with it.

[Ithekro]

I wonder if they would reuse the "Adventures of Mikuru Episode 00" OP for all of Sighs with the new ED? Then give us the new OP for Dissapearance and beyond (with Endless Eight not having an OP).

[Heatth]

Lol That would be funny.

However, the "Koi no Mikuru" OP is so bad that may be tiring for 3~4 episodes.

Besides, the new Hirano Aya single, with Tomare! and, supposedly, the OP isn't going to be relesed 07/22? The new OP must be airing before then.

Is a nice idea, tought.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Originally Posted by Heatth

the "Koi no Mikuru" OP is so bad that may be tiring for 3~4 episodes.

Says you. That OP was awesome.

[Heatth]

Agree. But is bad to.

Is good for one, me two, episodes but would become tiring after that. Besides, only true fans appreciate it. Casual viewers would find only silly. I "knows" people that give up the "first" episode (00) bacause of the OP. It back after someone explain the joke (and is easy understand after the first 5-10 minutes). But if a random viewer see that OP and then a normal episode, might dive up as well.

It is good to the movie episode, but not to a normal one.

EDIT:
I speak too much unnecessarily didn't I?

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Screw the casual viewers. If they can't appreciate art, then they're not worthy of the series.

[SealkidHaruhiism]

Is there going to be a movie for haruhi Suzumiya!

[wittyusername]

Originally Posted by SealkidHaruhiism

Is there going to be a movie for haruhi Suzumiya!

Doubt it.

Also, that was a wonderful and eloquent way to phrase a question.