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Lina · 2004-04-09, 19:05

The action gave me a bit of an adrenalin rush so I guess I'll follow it.

I don't appreciate the mecha but I do enjoy the guns. Plus, you don't see too many cowgirls in anime. Meg definitely seems to have something for Jo... About the fanservice, yeah, there seems to be a lot of lack of clothing but they're not flashing anyone so far.

SiL Eighty · 2004-04-09, 19:13

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Originally Posted by JediNight

And thats exactly why it sells Sil Eighty -- fanservice sells. The economy is still rather bad in Japan these days, so especially GONZO produces "sure winners" that will draw a profit from these types of series with total fanservice and weak hollow plot. They know that the kids will "look past that" if they are mezmerized for 30mins by bouncing boobies :P

Well I wasnt really commenting on the fanservice. Dont get me wrong I have no problems with a lil fanservice and i hope its not excessive, but i was mostly into the action. Right now this is great for me cuz i need something more faced paced to watch. Ive been watching the slower, more indepth animes and I need a good dose of an adreneline packed anime every now and than. Fanservice is just a plus. Good thing the girls dont have humongous boobs though that woulda turned me off -.-;

rorosama · 2004-04-09, 19:21

i saw the trailer and was turned off by the mechas. So is this series robo action or human action? If robo action then no for me. If human action then i'll download. Please let me know.

SimplyEd · 2004-04-09, 19:32

Just saw the Lunar version of Bakuretsu Tenshi and i have to say: Two thumbs up, Ed loooovvveeesss Baku Ten^^
Nice setting, interesting characters plus chara-design, good music score "Everybody Loosey^^", a really,really nice dress up scene with Jo and nice mecha action (looks like cell shading).

Fav line for the first episode from Jo: "Can I shoot all of them?"

And yes, as it was stated before, it does look like a cross-over between Bubblegum Crisis, Cowboy Bebop and a bit of Noir.

Ranko · 2004-04-09, 19:56

Honestly i think Gonzo is one of the best out there right up there next to Gainax, Xebec and Beetrain, on my list of groups that have to really mess up to get me mad.

Remember Kiddy grade? first episodes make you think fanservice only, but by episode 4 there are undertones of something.................... wait and see

ps. Happy Easter everyone,

Boxy · 2004-04-10, 01:39

Well IMO this is one of the best i've seen so far this season, having not seen a mecha anime in a while. Gonzo have made this a series to be very interested in.

We cant be sure what the plot will be like from the first series of the episode so mabie we should all give it a few more before we call it a rip off.

Did anyone else get a Nadesico feel from this? Cook gets taken off to war and becomes embroiled in the conflicts to come. (ep 2 said something about him being involved in the rescue operation.) I didnt get the noir feel from this, tho i immediately saw Auska from NGE in the Meg character (correct me if im wrong with the names).

I'll follow it into the forseeable future.

Tommy · 2004-04-10, 01:59

Well after watching the first episode this series seems kinda dry storywise, but its so pretty to look at. Gotta check out more episodes. But out of the 5 new series I've seen so far its 4th right above mars daybreak.

And as I expected it looked like this new series got by far the most downloads.

dreamless · 2004-04-10, 02:12

after rewatching the first episode, it seems getting better and better, as I noticed some very nice details that I have missed earlier. the actions look quite good now. And it feels more and more like BGC too...

JediNight · 2004-04-10, 04:51

I got to watch the first ep now and its OK for what it is catering to. Heavy influences from Bubblegum Crisis, with a smattering of Cowboy Bebop and character transplants of Asuka from Eva and Skuld from AMG and Akito the Cook (same seiyuu sounds like) from Nadesico ;p

Spoiler:

7hor · 2004-04-10, 04:54

I didn't think I was going to like this at first, not a huge fan of mecha stuff, but that OP got me hooked (yes, even the engrish), not sure where this plot is going, but it started out pretty good. Give it a try if you haven't yet

Airnest · 2004-04-10, 05:14

This series is GANGSTA! It's gonna be my first priority of all the new series to be downloaded. Definitely kick-ass action.

Me|2c · 2004-04-10, 07:37

Grey hair.. Red eyes.. Rei anyone? Well, Jo sure doesn't act like Rei, but the character designs are so strangely close to EVA. Despite that, it really caught my attention. There isn't much plot in the pilot episode, but I was kept gawking by the CG eye candy.

Awesome. That makes three new animes i have to download each week.

Boxy · 2004-04-10, 08:48

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Originally Posted by Me|2c

Grey hair.. Red eyes.. Rei anyone? Well, Jo sure doesn't act like Rei, but the character designs are so strangely close to EVA. Despite that, it really caught my attention. There isn't much plot in the pilot episode, but I was kept gawking by the CG eye candy.

Awesome. That makes three new animes i have to download each week.

I know what ya mean... i think i'll be downloading about 5 or 6 a week for a while.

dreamless · 2004-04-10, 10:14

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Originally Posted by Me|2c

Grey hair.. Red eyes.. Rei anyone? Well, Jo sure doesn't act like Rei, but the character designs are so strangely close to EVA. Despite that, it really caught my attention. There isn't much plot in the pilot episode, but I was kept gawking by the CG eye candy.

Awesome. That makes three new animes i have to download each week.

Hmmm... personally I think Meg looks like Asuka a bit, and that's the only character design that looks similar to EVA for me... even then Meg's hair style is totally different... Jo... I guess her complexion and personality are just so different from Rei that I can't related her to Rei in EVA (and her hair is whitish grey, while Rei's bluish grey). I guess the character personalities are just too different... and I find the characters in Baku-Ten more likeable than those in EVA

dreamless · 2004-04-10, 11:29

err... Jo... Noir... EVA... what's next?

Is there a muscular female character in Noir? No. Is there a muscular female character in EVA? No.

Also I'd say a series with explosions, T&A and mass fanservice can be a great series, the example being GONZO's own Vandread series

hunterx · 2004-04-10, 11:45

interesting show, the character designs are very nice. The red eyed chick is quite hot too. not bad at all

ArcHawk · 2004-04-10, 12:13

Looks promising. I was a bit worried about the skimpy outfits at first - not that I don't like a little fan service now and then, but I was worried it was going to approach the absurd level of Daphne...ridiculuous not attractive. Well, they are pretty skimpy, especially Jo's, but its tolerable. And I love Sei's character design...she's gorgeous and its nice to have a main character that appears to be older than high school age.

Production values are great and knowing this is the first episode, there is absolutely no reason to doubt the plot development at this point. The theme may not be brand new, but I have faith GONZO will make something of it.

Yebyosh · 2004-04-10, 12:35

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Originally Posted by JediNight

I still prefer regular animated mecha over the CG GONZO uses more and more -- it still doesn't mesh quite right ... the movements are too slow and awkward for everything that happened in the first battle scene.

It is not your regular mecha on crack fight. Watch carefully, this mecha combat is actually a John Woo type fight. When there is a particular action sequence (evasion, dodge or single gunshot), it is shown in what is now commonly termed 'bullet time' (bleagh) except that they won't go into the blur motion thingee.

That's the beauty of it here to me. It is not a technical fault of animation nor is it slow or awkward. The OP also showed this with the rounds slowly coming towards you from Joe's guns.

JediNight · 2004-04-10, 14:26

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Originally Posted by Yebyosh

It is not your regular mecha on crack fight. Watch carefully, this mecha combat is actually a John Woo type fight. When there is a particular action sequence (evasion, dodge or single gunshot), it is shown in what is now commonly termed 'bullet time' (bleagh) except that they won't go into the blur motion thingee.

That's the beauty of it here to me. It is not a technical fault of animation nor is it slow or awkward. The OP also showed this with the rounds slowly coming towards you from Joe's guns.

What I meant is that the entire CG battles seems to be slow like that. I didn't notice just a small part slowed down to "bullet time" .... even stuff such as dodging the tentacle things impacting the bridge was slow.

Kensuke · 2004-04-10, 18:01

Hmm... I'm not impressed after first episode, but I will give it a shot, one more series to follow. I like the character design, especially Meg (or should I say Asuka-clone).
Anime by GONZO (Full Metal Panic!, Hellsing, Vandread, Last Exile) cannot be bad...

2004-04-10, 04:51	Link #49
JediNight キズランダム Join Date: Apr 2003	I got to watch the first ep now and its OK for what it is catering to. Heavy influences from Bubblegum Crisis, with a smattering of Cowboy Bebop and character transplants of Asuka from Eva and Skuld from AMG and Akito the Cook (same seiyuu sounds like) from Nadesico ;p Spoiler: I still prefer regular animated mecha over the CG GONZO uses more and more -- it still doesn't mesh quite right ... the movements are too slow and awkward for everything that happened in the first battle scene. Then theres the question that will hopefully be answered of where the heck do they get the cash to afford all that crap they have ^_^;; Have to see if any kind of plot is ever introduced, or if they keep dwelling on crotch shots, Megs lemon-boobs, and pedo Amy outfit 0_o

2004-04-09, 19:05	Link #41
Lina moo. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA Age: 37	The action gave me a bit of an adrenalin rush so I guess I'll follow it. I don't appreciate the mecha but I do enjoy the guns. Plus, you don't see too many cowgirls in anime. Meg definitely seems to have something for Jo... About the fanservice, yeah, there seems to be a lot of lack of clothing but they're not flashing anyone so far.

2004-04-09, 19:21	Link #43
rorosama Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004	i saw the trailer and was turned off by the mechas. So is this series robo action or human action? If robo action then no for me. If human action then i'll download. Please let me know.

2004-04-09, 19:32	Link #44
SimplyEd Claytard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: U.M.N. Age: 45	Just saw the Lunar version of Bakuretsu Tenshi and i have to say: Two thumbs up, Ed loooovvveeesss Baku Ten^^ Nice setting, interesting characters plus chara-design, good music score "Everybody Loosey^^", a really,really nice dress up scene with Jo and nice mecha action (looks like cell shading). Fav line for the first episode from Jo: "Can I shoot all of them?" And yes, as it was stated before, it does look like a cross-over between Bubblegum Crisis, Cowboy Bebop and a bit of Noir.

2004-04-09, 19:56	Link #45
Ranko Mech Engineer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Earth Age: 38	Honestly i think Gonzo is one of the best out there right up there next to Gainax, Xebec and Beetrain, on my list of groups that have to really mess up to get me mad. Remember Kiddy grade? first episodes make you think fanservice only, but by episode 4 there are undertones of something.................... wait and see ps. Happy Easter everyone,

2004-04-10, 01:39	Link #46
Boxy Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunbury, Victoria, Australia Age: 38	Well IMO this is one of the best i've seen so far this season, having not seen a mecha anime in a while. Gonzo have made this a series to be very interested in. We cant be sure what the plot will be like from the first series of the episode so mabie we should all give it a few more before we call it a rip off. Did anyone else get a Nadesico feel from this? Cook gets taken off to war and becomes embroiled in the conflicts to come. (ep 2 said something about him being involved in the rescue operation.) I didnt get the noir feel from this, tho i immediately saw Auska from NGE in the Meg character (correct me if im wrong with the names). I'll follow it into the forseeable future.

2004-04-10, 01:59	Link #47
Tommy Mr. Prince Join Date: May 2003 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 40	Well after watching the first episode this series seems kinda dry storywise, but its so pretty to look at. Gotta check out more episodes. But out of the 5 new series I've seen so far its 4th right above mars daybreak. And as I expected it looked like this new series got by far the most downloads.

2004-04-10, 02:12	Link #48
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	after rewatching the first episode, it seems getting better and better, as I noticed some very nice details that I have missed earlier. the actions look quite good now. And it feels more and more like BGC too...

2004-04-10, 04:54	Link #50
7hor Full Metal Physicist Join Date: Dec 2003	I didn't think I was going to like this at first, not a huge fan of mecha stuff, but that OP got me hooked (yes, even the engrish), not sure where this plot is going, but it started out pretty good. Give it a try if you haven't yet

2004-04-10, 05:14	Link #51
Airnest Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004	This series is GANGSTA! It's gonna be my first priority of all the new series to be downloaded. Definitely kick-ass action.

2004-04-10, 07:37	Link #52
Me\|2c Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 38	Grey hair.. Red eyes.. Rei anyone? Well, Jo sure doesn't act like Rei, but the character designs are so strangely close to EVA. Despite that, it really caught my attention. There isn't much plot in the pilot episode, but I was kept gawking by the CG eye candy. Awesome. That makes three new animes i have to download each week.

2004-04-10, 11:29	Link #55
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	err... Jo... Noir... EVA... what's next? Is there a muscular female character in Noir? No. Is there a muscular female character in EVA? No. Also I'd say a series with explosions, T&A and mass fanservice can be a great series, the example being GONZO's own Vandread series

2004-04-10, 11:45	Link #56
hunterx ore wa kanpeki da Join Date: Nov 2003	interesting show, the character designs are very nice. The red eyed chick is quite hot too. not bad at all

2004-04-10, 12:13	Link #57
ArcHawk Expand your world... Join Date: Dec 2003	Looks promising. I was a bit worried about the skimpy outfits at first - not that I don't like a little fan service now and then, but I was worried it was going to approach the absurd level of Daphne...ridiculuous not attractive. Well, they are pretty skimpy, especially Jo's, but its tolerable. And I love Sei's character design...she's gorgeous and its nice to have a main character that appears to be older than high school age. Production values are great and knowing this is the first episode, there is absolutely no reason to doubt the plot development at this point. The theme may not be brand new, but I have faith GONZO will make something of it.

2004-04-10, 18:01	Link #60
Kensuke Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Finland	Hmm... I'm not impressed after first episode, but I will give it a shot, one more series to follow. I like the character design, especially Meg (or should I say Asuka-clone). Anime by GONZO (Full Metal Panic!, Hellsing, Vandread, Last Exile) cannot be bad...