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Genius · 2004-09-28, 08:34

Where did all the good drawers go? you may call some of them "oldschool" drawers. and anime-otaku: youre not drawing anymore? :\ I think its really sad, since now (my opinion) there is like.. no good drawers left. Just tracers, and inexperienced drawers

wish you could come back.

Radd · 2004-09-28, 09:10

I really don't know how to take this.

Niti · 2004-09-28, 10:19

Yeah very big words you are saying there,, I don't know if I should take this as a (you hate my drawings) or a ( I am so dam good no wonder why all you pictures suck ,, I am the best hurray) , I mean there are lots of good drawers on the forums ,, Maybe it’s you that , has been away for to long ,,, just take a look around man,,, and what is a good drawer in your eyes,, everything people do is good,, something that you might hate , someone ells maybe loves.. So don’t go around and say stupid shit like that,, Yeah okay you miss the old school draws whoever they are,,, but don’t make everybody ells feel like crap.. You said yours and now I have said mine,,, see you around,,

Shoeshefied · 2004-09-28, 10:30

I believe they all are taking those in between breaks like for every year they draw,and then stop and continue on to the next year/months.. ahy dunno..., kinda harsh when you said only tracers and inexperience... but i get what you mean,...sorta ^^;

Necrodeath · 2004-09-28, 10:33

I don't think anyone here is as good as the ultimate godlike uglypigs, but there are plenty of good drawings and drawers. (not me though

)

Perhaps your standard is amazingly high? I'd like to see some of your drawings...

Damnit, this icecream I'm eating is tasting like crap....not literally, but it tastes bad

Asura · 2004-09-28, 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genius

Where did all the good drawers go? you may call some of them "oldschool" drawers. and anime-otaku: youre not drawing anymore? :\ I think its really sad, since now (my opinion) there is like.. no good drawers left. Just tracers, and inexperienced drawers

wish you could come back.

a genius indeed, unfortunately not in the public relation department..
gawd u really know how to make enemies... at least that's how that sound.

anyways, while some of us may be experiencing what's called artist block, some other are just bussy IRL (we got to make a living -be it by art or something else), and some other just plain taking a vacation from drawing (which can go from weeks to months to years) just as Shoeshefied mentioned.

Raxial · 2004-09-28, 14:29

well, we kinda got left behind, if you will. We're somewhat of a bootcamp. People are here up to a certain level and then are free to fly. Some people give up, others get good enough and pass on. Many stick around here to help the others, but not too many. So, what we really need here, i think, is a teacher. We need (well, maybe not NEED) someone really good here that knows what they're talking about and how to teach others what they know. Until then, we help each other, and the better, more experienced members help the new, less experienced members. If someone LIKE uglypigs were to come here, or come back, their expertise would be invaluable to all. That's why I believe it's good to get new artists here so we dont go stagnant, and we keep getting a refresher of opinion and criticism to help us.

Whether or not the artists here are up to the veteran's standards doesn't matter so much; we learn as we go and teach what we learn. But if someone with some great experience could share their knowledge, it'd be quite benficial. I think anyone who's seen ugly's work would appreciate him back, or calaveraspain (who still does stuff on dev art), or anime-otaku, or any number of people who seemed to have dispersed over time. Oh well, we'll get new people here, i mean, even uglypigs wasn't awesome at one point, so everyone here is on their way up (not down).

Sakura-chan · 2004-09-28, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genius

Where did all the good drawers go? you may call some of them "oldschool" drawers. and anime-otaku: youre not drawing anymore? :\ I think its really sad, since now (my opinion) there is like.. no good drawers left. Just tracers, and inexperienced drawers

wish you could come back.

Thank you, you just said that we all who still post our art suck. YAY for you!

.gaara · 2004-09-28, 14:59

haha~ funny guy

how do you define "good art"?

JERI · 2004-09-28, 15:22

Not trying to escalate anything, but I'm really curious, Genious, about the people you regard as the good drawers.

Wanna post the names? Just wanna do a search on them.

Innotech · 2004-09-28, 18:24

I feel that I should respond here.
Truth be told, not everyone is expected to be an awesome artist right off hte bat. We all need practice, time, and encouragement to get better. I am right nowe posting some stuff after a summer break from posting stuff, and I havent really posted much, but you are free to browse thtrough my NON TRACED, NON COPIED ORIGINAL stuff if you'd like and see if it is up to your standard. Im still learning this stuff myself, but improving with every new sketch. I hope that you dont make fun of people who try their hardest but cannot yet draw to a high standard. Everyone was a beginner once.

sOnJoOL · 2004-09-28, 19:06

as Mr.Burns in simpsons said,
"you have made a powerful enemy today my friend"

bunnykun · 2004-09-28, 23:06

Buddy, for you to say that there aren't any good active artists in forums.animesuki.com is totally ludicrous, there are so many good and awesome artists here, in fact there are so much i can remember all from the top of my head. Why not look through this sub-forum before posting such ridiculous comments. From what I can tell by reading through the posts so far, i think you best apoligize or this thread will become nothing but a flame attack on you.

anime-otaku · 2004-09-28, 23:35

As an artist you need to be able to take harsh critisism. Not everything in this world is sugarcoated, or nice and dandy like the anime world, if you don't like it stay out of the internet.

I have respect for the posters and artist alike that posted and replied to this thread. Genius, ss an individual, he's completely entitled to his own OPINION as he stated in his post. There's absolutely no need to flame, further more if you think yourself as a good artist you would be able to ignore his comment, and life goes on.

I don't support nor go against anyone's responses, just becuase "genius" commented on me being a "good oldschool drawer" doesn't mean its true, if anything I couldn't disagree more. There are plenty of talented artists around the farart section. But as the old saying goes "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

sOnJoOL · 2004-09-29, 00:28

most people draw as a hobbie, unless they do it professionally.
so i dont care about criticism, actually i like it, helps me get better.
but what i dont like is setting a divider on who is good or not and saying it out loud in public. if its criticism, bring it on.

Asura · 2004-09-29, 00:53

AO, nice comment..true, he's entitled to his own opinion, but he can say it better than he did. But, who am I against...1001 people, 1001 different personalities..
and..to nit-pick: I consider myself neither a good artist, nor an artist to begin with..

"Whatever, just fuhgeddabout it"

footnote: Asura is stuck in ura land.

Genius · 2004-09-29, 06:32

The point of the post was not to break you down, there is a couple of good drawers left, but the average level is much lower than it was, and i was just wondering where all the drawers had went, nothing more, nothing less.
Don't take it so personally.. if you like your own drawings, there's no need to flame me, is it? and it was only my own opinion.

Shoeshefied · 2004-09-29, 06:44

glad this cleared upp, phewwwww, dont worry dood, happens all the time, people can mean one thing... but it sure can feel different out the other ear. harharhar.......and to stick to the topic, i hope those that were here like when this forum was created could stop by one day and show off some neat stuff though, likewise everyone has neatstuff to show off. (me gotta stop being all cheesy)

nh1 · 2004-09-29, 06:53

Ehm... The entitled to your own opinion thing is kind of weird, because flaming is actually also stating an opinion: "I think you're stupid to say something like that" and "I think you're bad at drawing to post something like that" are really both opinions

.
I guess it just came out wrong and we misunderstood. Could happen to anyone

By the way, does anyone know where Uglypigs went? Did he say something before he left or did he just... die?

Innotech · 2004-09-29, 06:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genius

The point of the post was not to break you down, there is a couple of good drawers left, but the average level is much lower than it was, and i was just wondering where all the drawers had went, nothing more, nothing less.
Don't take it so personally.. if you like your own drawings, there's no need to flame me, is it? and it was only my own opinion.

no ones flaming you ,just that some of us havent been drawing as long.
For example, I started drawing anime and people only 2 years ago, and for about 15 years prior I drew only cars and houses.

2004-09-28, 08:34	Link #1
Genius BLUEH! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norway Age: 38	"oldschool" drawers Where did all the good drawers go? you may call some of them "oldschool" drawers. and anime-otaku: youre not drawing anymore? :\ I think its really sad, since now (my opinion) there is like.. no good drawers left. Just tracers, and inexperienced drawers wish you could come back.

2004-09-28, 09:10	Link #2
Radd Just Married, Oct. 28th! Join Date: May 2003 Age: 45	I really don't know how to take this. __________________

2004-09-29, 00:53	Link #16
Asura should i stay longer? Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hong Kong until May 6 2006.... it's paradise ;)	AO, nice comment..true, he's entitled to his own opinion, but he can say it better than he did. But, who am I against...1001 people, 1001 different personalities.. and..to nit-pick: I consider myself neither a good artist, nor an artist to begin with.. "Whatever, just fuhgeddabout it" footnote: Asura is stuck in ura land. Last edited by Asura; 2004-09-29 at 01:20.

2004-09-29, 06:53	Link #19
nh1 KAWAIII-III!!!! >^_^ > Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Magical land! (Magica-ru land!)	Ehm... The entitled to your own opinion thing is kind of weird, because flaming is actually also stating an opinion: "I think you're stupid to say something like that" and "I think you're bad at drawing to post something like that" are really both opinions . I guess it just came out wrong and we misunderstood. Could happen to anyone By the way, does anyone know where Uglypigs went? Did he say something before he left or did he just... die? __________________

2004-09-28, 10:19	Link #3
Niti Live wild and die young Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sweden Age: 36	Yeah very big words you are saying there,, I don't know if I should take this as a (you hate my drawings) or a ( I am so dam good no wonder why all you pictures suck ,, I am the best hurray) , I mean there are lots of good drawers on the forums ,, Maybe it’s you that , has been away for to long ,,, just take a look around man,,, and what is a good drawer in your eyes,, everything people do is good,, something that you might hate , someone ells maybe loves.. So don’t go around and say stupid shit like that,, Yeah okay you miss the old school draws whoever they are,,, but don’t make everybody ells feel like crap.. You said yours and now I have said mine,,, see you around,,

2004-09-28, 10:30	Link #4
Shoeshefied Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: EST Age: 38	I believe they all are taking those in between breaks like for every year they draw,and then stop and continue on to the next year/months.. ahy dunno..., kinda harsh when you said only tracers and inexperience... but i get what you mean,...sorta ^^;

2004-09-28, 10:33	Link #5
Necrodeath Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands, Maastricht Age: 38	I don't think anyone here is as good as the ultimate godlike uglypigs, but there are plenty of good drawings and drawers. (not me though ) Perhaps your standard is amazingly high? I'd like to see some of your drawings... Damnit, this icecream I'm eating is tasting like crap....not literally, but it tastes bad

2004-09-28, 14:29	Link #7
Raxial CG / Color Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Eastern United States Age: 35	well, we kinda got left behind, if you will. We're somewhat of a bootcamp. People are here up to a certain level and then are free to fly. Some people give up, others get good enough and pass on. Many stick around here to help the others, but not too many. So, what we really need here, i think, is a teacher. We need (well, maybe not NEED) someone really good here that knows what they're talking about and how to teach others what they know. Until then, we help each other, and the better, more experienced members help the new, less experienced members. If someone LIKE uglypigs were to come here, or come back, their expertise would be invaluable to all. That's why I believe it's good to get new artists here so we dont go stagnant, and we keep getting a refresher of opinion and criticism to help us. Whether or not the artists here are up to the veteran's standards doesn't matter so much; we learn as we go and teach what we learn. But if someone with some great experience could share their knowledge, it'd be quite benficial. I think anyone who's seen ugly's work would appreciate him back, or calaveraspain (who still does stuff on dev art), or anime-otaku, or any number of people who seemed to have dispersed over time. Oh well, we'll get new people here, i mean, even uglypigs wasn't awesome at one point, so everyone here is on their way up (not down).

2004-09-28, 14:59	Link #9
.gaara i'm in love --- :O Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: L o n d o n Age: 39	haha~ funny guy how do you define "good art"?

2004-09-28, 15:22	Link #10
JERI Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004	Not trying to escalate anything, but I'm really curious, Genious, about the people you regard as the good drawers. Wanna post the names? Just wanna do a search on them.

2004-09-28, 18:24	Link #11
Innotech Member Join Date: Apr 2004	I feel that I should respond here. Truth be told, not everyone is expected to be an awesome artist right off hte bat. We all need practice, time, and encouragement to get better. I am right nowe posting some stuff after a summer break from posting stuff, and I havent really posted much, but you are free to browse thtrough my NON TRACED, NON COPIED ORIGINAL stuff if you'd like and see if it is up to your standard. Im still learning this stuff myself, but improving with every new sketch. I hope that you dont make fun of people who try their hardest but cannot yet draw to a high standard. Everyone was a beginner once.

2004-09-28, 19:06	Link #12
sOnJoOL Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004	as Mr.Burns in simpsons said, "you have made a powerful enemy today my friend"

2004-09-28, 23:06	Link #13
bunnykun What is, what is? Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, FL Age: 39	Buddy, for you to say that there aren't any good active artists in forums.animesuki.com is totally ludicrous, there are so many good and awesome artists here, in fact there are so much i can remember all from the top of my head. Why not look through this sub-forum before posting such ridiculous comments. From what I can tell by reading through the posts so far, i think you best apoligize or this thread will become nothing but a flame attack on you.

2004-09-28, 23:35	Link #14
anime-otaku Lazy Guitarist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Brooklyn Age: 39	As an artist you need to be able to take harsh critisism. Not everything in this world is sugarcoated, or nice and dandy like the anime world, if you don't like it stay out of the internet. I have respect for the posters and artist alike that posted and replied to this thread. Genius, ss an individual, he's completely entitled to his own OPINION as he stated in his post. There's absolutely no need to flame, further more if you think yourself as a good artist you would be able to ignore his comment, and life goes on. I don't support nor go against anyone's responses, just becuase "genius" commented on me being a "good oldschool drawer" doesn't mean its true, if anything I couldn't disagree more. There are plenty of talented artists around the farart section. But as the old saying goes "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

2004-09-29, 00:28	Link #15
sOnJoOL Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004	most people draw as a hobbie, unless they do it professionally. so i dont care about criticism, actually i like it, helps me get better. but what i dont like is setting a divider on who is good or not and saying it out loud in public. if its criticism, bring it on.

2004-09-29, 06:32	Link #17
Genius BLUEH! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norway Age: 38	The point of the post was not to break you down, there is a couple of good drawers left, but the average level is much lower than it was, and i was just wondering where all the drawers had went, nothing more, nothing less. Don't take it so personally.. if you like your own drawings, there's no need to flame me, is it? and it was only my own opinion.

2004-09-29, 06:44	Link #18
Shoeshefied Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: EST Age: 38	glad this cleared upp, phewwwww, dont worry dood, happens all the time, people can mean one thing... but it sure can feel different out the other ear. harharhar.......and to stick to the topic, i hope those that were here like when this forum was created could stop by one day and show off some neat stuff though, likewise everyone has neatstuff to show off. (me gotta stop being all cheesy)