(CR) Senki Zesshou Symphogear GX (Season 3)

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by ValvraveTruth

Where do you even get the so call ''personification'' information anyway? Please do tell the website link.

I got this theory from watching the transformation and seeing the dark shadowy flames take shape around the girls bodies. So sadly I have no official source to back it up but it makes sense.

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[FlareKnight]

Could certainly make for an ironic twist if the second season girls have to hold their ground against berserk/monster modes of the main trio. Needing to get through to them before they really cause harm in those states.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Could certainly make for an ironic twist if the second season girls have to hold their ground against berserk/monster modes of the main trio. Needing to get through to them before they really cause harm in those states.

It could've been Carol's plan all along have the main trio be the force that destroy the world. After all it's really convent that he this amazing solution just so happens to find them when they need it the most...I'm looking at you Elfnein...

[Biohazardous]

Yay Hibiki looking forward to more.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Dark Wing

It could've been Carol's plan all along have the main trio be the force that destroy the world. After all it's really convent that he this amazing solution just so happens to find them when they need it the most...I'm looking at you Elfnein...

I would not be surprised if this was Carol's plan. We still don't know exactly what method she's going to use to destroy the world. Part of the plan was to knock out sources of power in that area and also there is a need for at least an individual with sufficient phonic gain.

Seems a fair presumption that Elfnein's actions are at least part of Carol's plan. Escaping as it is seems impossible with the Autoscorers power and alchemy based teleporting. She had to intend Elfnein to make contact.

Whether her main plan involves these almost dark gears or she has an actual world ending weapon prepared I'm not entirely sure.

[OmegaWeaponZ]

Calling it now, the original Carol died a long time ago. Both the current "Carol" and Elfnien are Homuculi based of her(i seriously doubt she lived that long while staying a loli). Elfnien in my opinion was the first homuculi based of her(too suspicious she has all the memories of carol, even more so when its now mentioned that she was able to transmute her memories to a power source) that sealed a portion of her memories to infiltrate song, for some reason or the other. Why do i say she may be the first homuculi?

Well this part is based on something that you could say is rather weak reasoning(but hey this is all my on the situation anyway) - is her hair. Yes, her hair. While it is possible that she could have grown her hair out as time went on, but in all the flashbacks shown now, the carol shown all had short hair akin to Elfnien, and while not always the case, but when when certain feature of characters in anime/manag/ln/etc. have a lot in common, it usually means something.

And lastly, if I'm not mistaken, Bahamut is also considered as the giant fish on which the world is carried(if i am remembering things correctly ) or seen as the opposite to Tiamat, being a noble dragon king, so not exactly the same thing as the behemot, so it is possible that one of their transformations could reference him. But that would go against the dark theme of the transformation, so instead, I think that transformation is Tiamat instead.

Anyways... this just my thoughts on the current situation.

[Nork22]

Originally Posted by OmegaWeaponZ

Calling it now, the original Carol died a long time ago

Yeah, it's official knowledge and she's been cloning herself throughout the years. It was all on the official Symphogear website.

[ValvraveTruth]

Originally Posted by Dark Wing

I got this theory from watching the transformation and seeing the dark shadowy flames take shape around the girls bodies. So sadly I have no official source to back it up but it makes sense.

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Very nice detailed spot on there. Well If there is personification in them, the information will release at the official website in time. And if no then it might just be a simple berserk image look alike i guess.

[DGDCOne]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I would not be surprised if this was Carol's plan. We still don't know exactly what method she's going to use to destroy the world. Part of the plan was to knock out sources of power in that area and also there is a need for at least an individual with sufficient phonic gain.

Seems a fair presumption that Elfnein's actions are at least part of Carol's plan. Escaping as it is seems impossible with the Autoscorers power and alchemy based teleporting. She had to intend Elfnein to make contact.

Whether her main plan involves these almost dark gears or she has an actual world ending weapon prepared I'm not entirely sure.

That's why this series is called GX: Believe in Justice and Hold a Determination to Fist.

The only way to defeat a new threat is...'You gotta believe.'

[Random Wanderer]

Well. They weaponized the berserk mode. I didn't expect that, but given the nature of the sword Elfnein was bringing them I suppose it had to be something dark.

I'm still not sure what they're going to do for the final battle, though. They already used the ex-mode with the power of the entire planet last season.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Well. They weaponized the berserk mode. I didn't expect that, but given the nature of the sword Elfnein was bringing them I suppose it had to be something dark.

I'm still not sure what they're going to do for the final battle, though. They already used the ex-mode with the power of the entire planet last season.

Will be interesting. Certainly the threat once more is on the planetary destruction level. Maybe the key will be their personal growth leading to the X-Drive awesomeness that is to be expected. Regardless here's hoping it will be a spectacular finale.

[Nork22]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I'm still not sure what they're going to do for the final battle, though. They already used the ex-mode with the power of the entire planet last season.

Berserk mode and Ex-mode powers combine. It's only logical.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Nork22

Berserk mode and Ex-mode powers combine. It's only logical.

I don't know... the berserk modes... the ignite forms are cool and all, but I'm still getting a generally negative vibe from them. Despite what Elfnein said, I don't think they're an intended use of the relics. More like a corrupted form that comes from activating the relics improperly: Elfnein has just weaponized it by combing the relics with Dáinsleif and alchemy. As a result, I don't think it will combine properly with the ex-mode. It didn't work well when Hibiki started to lose it in season 1 when she grabbed Durandel, after all. I mean, it was obviously a more powerful berserk mode, but it seemed like ex's powers vanished, and her wings only regrew after the berserk mode was overcome.

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Originally Posted by Dark Wing

I got this theory from watching the transformation and seeing the dark shadowy flames take shape around the girls bodies. So sadly I have no official source to back it up but it makes sense.

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You know, here I was going to all this trouble to capture screenshots of those quick flashes of monstrous forms that showed right when they finished their berserk transformations, to act as evidence that these transformations, useful as they may be, really aren't a good thing and they need to stop doing them and find something better ASAP, and looking back I find you've gone and done it all better already.

[Eisdrache]

Does anyone know the title of the BGM played during Chris/Tsubasa's fight with Carol pre-failgnite?

[DezoPenguin]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I don't know... the berserk modes... the ignite forms are cool and all, but I'm still getting a generally negative vibe from them. Despite what Elfnein said, I don't think they're an intended use of the relics. More like a corrupted form that comes from activating the relics improperly: Elfnein has just weaponized it by combing the relics with Dáinsleif and alchemy. As a result, I don't think it will combine properly with the ex-mode. It didn't work well when Hibiki started to lose it in season 1 when she grabbed Durandel, after all. I mean, it was obviously a more powerful berserk mode, but it seemed like ex's powers vanished, and her wings only regrew after the berserk mode was overcome.

Exactly what I've been saying. There are shows where "You have to embrace the darkness inside you as a natural part of being human, and learn to use that anger productively as a part of yourself instead of letting it control and consume you" would be a natural extension of its message; Symphogear is not one of those shows--"Darkness bad. Just say no to rampage mode!" is more along the lines of what I expect.

And seriously, nothing good ever came out of phrases like, "it's a sword of murder" (I don't remember if the word cursed was also in there). I don't know if Elfnein is actively setting the good guys up for a fall, but I'm quite sure that Carol is somewhere eating Memory Potato Chips and cackling "Just as planned!"

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by OmegaWeaponZ

Calling it now, the original Carol died a long time ago. Both the current "Carol" and Elfnien are Homuculi based of her(i seriously doubt she lived that long while staying a loli). Elfnien in my opinion was the first homuculi based of her(too suspicious she has all the memories of carol, even more so when its now mentioned that she was able to transmute her memories to a power source) that sealed a portion of her memories to infiltrate song, for some reason or the other. Why do i say she may be the first homuculi?

Official website info a couple of pages ago tell that Carol transfers consciousness similar to Fine but only with her Homunculus that she created. The Homunculus has to have the same mentality for it to be Carol.

[tuckersister]

I'm hoping Miku's songs this season will be good like last season. I also wonder there would be an extra on the cd with Miku's Swan Song. It will probably be really good.

All the song this season are amazing. Chris still kicks ass this season.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by tuckersister

I'm hoping Miku's songs this season will be good like last season. I also wonder there would be an extra on the cd with Miku's Swan Song. It will probably be really good.

All the song this season are amazing. Chris still kicks ass this season.

Hard to say. I can't see this season's song for Miku (presuming she gets one) will surpass last season. That song was one of the best of the season in my view. Plus since she isn't likely to get a gear this season, may not get as epic a song.

Still, will agree the songs so far have been great. Feels like they really have a good sense of the cast and the kind of songs that work for them. Plus we've been getting a lot of group songs and duets this season which is great. I'm looking forward to the full version for Yukine's song. May certainly end up as one of my favorites from this season.

[Dark Wing]

You know guy dare I say. Dose this seems to be the best season of Symphogear so far? After two season ranging from alright to so-so this show look like it's finally founds it's footing.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Dark Wing

You know guy dare I say. Dose this seems to be the best season of Symphogear so far? After two season ranging from alright to so-so this show look like it's finally founds it's footing.

I've enjoyed them all, although it may have helped that I got to watch seasons 1 and 2 pretty much all at once (I also watched season 2 out of order, and before I watched season 1... The later episodes of season 2 are kind of what made me want to watch Symphogear at all. Before I watched those I'd been given the impression that it was rather a darker series than it actually is). Personally I feel they've kind of stumbled with Hibiki's characterization in the first few episodes of this season, and so I haven't enjoyed GX as much as I think I otherwise would have.

I suppose it all depends on what your favorite part of Symphogear is. There's lots of stuff here, but in my case I like the characters themselves at least as much as any other part of the series, so when our protagonist seemed to undergo a significant regression in terms of character development (in some ways regressing further than any point we've ever seen her at before), it harmed my overall enjoyment of the season. And while I'm glad she seems to have snapped out of it, I'm not too happy that the lessons she "learned" in order to do so are lessons she'd already learned a couple seasons ago, and had taken fully to heart to the point that she shouldn't have been able to forget them.