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Benoit · 2013-01-31, 15:32

I'd like to know if this game has actual AI. In the previous games the enemy units would attack yours when in range no matter what. It devolved the game into a routine of baiting the enemy unit with a strong character before finishing it off.

Shadow5YA · 2013-01-31, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Benoit

I'd like to know if this game has actual AI. In the previous games the enemy units would attack yours when in range no matter what. It devolved the game into a routine of baiting the enemy unit with a strong character before finishing it off.

This is false. In some games, especially the DS remakes, many units did not attack even if yours were in range unless your unit was in range of several enemy units at the same time.

**Klashikari** · 2013-01-31, 17:40

The AI tends to not overcommit unless they have toncrap of units.
Generally, they really try to gang bang a frail unit, and if they can kill it, they will aim for the kill. Hard mode and Lunatic can be extremely frustrating because any single wrong move immediately cost you a unit.
And baiting, even with a Jeigan, is quite risky.

takai · 2013-02-01, 11:43

I've never played Fire Emblem, but when I played the demo I liked it a lot. I'm definitely picking this one up. I really like how you can make your own avatar, which was what initially sparked my interest.

willx · 2013-02-01, 12:53

I am seriously tempted to buy a 3DS just to play this game. I am seriously seriously tempted.

Shadow5YA · 2013-02-01, 12:56

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Originally Posted by willx

I am seriously tempted to buy a 3DS just to play this game. I am seriously seriously tempted.

Supposedly there's a bundle you can buy that comes with a 3DS and the game. It's not supposed to be out until 2/4, but I've heard some areas already broke the date.

serenade_beta · 2013-02-01, 23:42

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Originally Posted by Benoit

I'd like to know if this game has actual AI. In the previous games the enemy units would attack yours when in range no matter what. It devolved the game into a routine of baiting the enemy unit with a strong character before finishing it off.

As far as I recall, that's generally the way it is. The AI will either attack you after you pass a certain point of the map or will attack after a certain number of turns have passed. As far as Awakening goes, there are plenty of maps where the enemy units just pretty much all rush at you after a certain point.
Which is one reason the Sorceror + Nosferatu wall works so well in this game.

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Originally Posted by Klashikari

The AI tends to not overcommit unless they have toncrap of units.
Generally, they really try to gang bang a frail unit, and if they can kill it, they will aim for the kill. Hard mode and Lunatic can be extremely frustrating because any single wrong move immediately cost you a unit.
And baiting, even with a Jeigan, is quite risky.

Lunatic will kill your unit if you make the wrong move, the Hard not so much. If you make several wrong moves, yes, but there is enough freedom to develop your own strategy.
After being surprised by a set of reinforcements and getting killed -> restarting once...

Hitenma · 2013-02-02, 21:50

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Originally Posted by serenade_beta

As far as I recall, that's generally the way it is. The AI will either attack you after you pass a certain point of the map or will attack after a certain number of turns have passed. As far as Awakening goes, there are plenty of maps where the enemy units just pretty much all rush at you after a certain point.
Which is one reason the Sorceror + Nosferatu wall works so well in this game.

Sorceror + Nosferatu works well because it is broken. The AI can't win no matter what strategy they use.
And there is no need to make a wall. One single Sorceror (with a good support) can decimate the entire army.

serenade_beta · 2013-02-03, 01:59

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Originally Posted by Hitenma

And there is no need to make a wall. One single Sorceror (with a good support) can decimate the entire army.

Well, one Sorceror can be a wall

Mai Sakurando · 2013-02-03, 02:05

I might have to end up getting this game as digital. I didn't pre-ordered and now it looks like I can't find this game available anywhere at my local gamestop. Poowee!

jedinat · 2013-02-03, 03:26

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Originally Posted by Mai Sakurando

I might have to end up getting this game as digital. I didn't pre-ordered and now it looks like I can't find this game available anywhere at my local gamestop. Poowee!

Considering the actual release date isn't until Monday... I wouldn't do anything drastic yet. Besides Gamestop there's Walmart, Best Buy, Target, etc...

JohnNiles · 2013-02-03, 05:33

I wonder why the release date is Monday and not Tuesday, like it is for most games. Ah well, I never liked Tuesday releases to begin with.

Zakoo · 2013-02-03, 17:08

I will totally become crazy, Wii u, PS4 and 3DS.
My wallet can't hold all of this.

I guess I will go for 3ds first then since I'm a huge fan of fire emblem.

Xefi · 2013-02-03, 20:46

^ lol...yeah. my wallet is also screaming bloody tears. i wanted to try out Ni no Kuni before
this game, but i favor Fire Emblem Awakening over it. so i'll have to save some money and get
Fire Emblem while passing on Ni no Kuni for a bit.

i doubt i can dedicate my time to both game with the little limited time i have each days.
oh well, Fire Emblem here i come!

DragoonKain3 · 2013-02-03, 21:04

Ahh Lunatic. The only place where random battles are harder than the regular battles (like Silver or Killer Weapons when story battles are still with Steel, and you only have access to iron XD). Even frigging DLC has like a quarter of the characters double attacking you.

Goddamit, where are the trash random encounters so I can grind half my party, especially that Donnel guy.

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Originally Posted by JohnNiles

I wonder why the release date is Monday and not Tuesday, like it is for most games. Ah well, I never liked Tuesday releases to begin with.

Monday? I thought it was officially last Tuesday, as I got it last Wednesday.

Shadow5YA · 2013-02-04, 11:22

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

Monday? I thought it was officially last Tuesday, as I got it last Wednesday.

The Gamestop around my area delayed it till 2/8.

Mai Sakurando · 2013-02-04, 13:01

I gave up on finding the physical copy and go ahead and bought me the digital version. Now, let's see who to begin with for my avatar. Too many decisions and I am thinking of starting as female avatar first and have her pair up with Chrom.

GDB · 2013-02-04, 16:05

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Originally Posted by Mai Sakurando

Now, let's see who to begin with for my avatar. Too many decisions and I am thinking of starting as female avatar first and have her pair up with Chrom.]

I almost did that, but on my first runs I prefer doing the hardest/most out of the way things first. So, while not playing Lunatic (wanted to get a better feel for the game first), I decided to pair Chrom up with Olivia, since she'd be the hardest to do so with. Still wanting to get Royal Weapon on Morgan, I decided I'd pair my Avatar up with Azure (only character whose localized name I hate).

takai · 2013-02-05, 01:07

Smooth move Nintendo. The GameStop I work at got 39 calls regarding Fire Emblem. A lot of people aren't too happy.

SOGESNAKE · 2013-02-05, 01:18

Yeah, luckily I had decided to go to our local EB Games about 10-20 minutes after it opened in the morning.... to find out they had only gotten 1 copy of the game in.

Still find it odd that a Nintendo title is having a hard time finding it's way to the stores... I do wonder if it would've helped better to just have the release date a normal Tuesday.... or a regular Nintendo Sunday release day.

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Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	The AI tends to not overcommit unless they have toncrap of units. Generally, they really try to gang bang a frail unit, and if they can kill it, they will aim for the kill. Hard mode and Lunatic can be extremely frustrating because any single wrong move immediately cost you a unit. And baiting, even with a Jeigan, is quite risky. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

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willx Nyaaan~~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 40	I am seriously tempted to buy a 3DS just to play this game. I am seriously seriously tempted. __________________ Nyaaaan~~

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Mai Sakurando Dream Cat Author Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: MidNight ReflectionS	I might have to end up getting this game as digital. I didn't pre-ordered and now it looks like I can't find this game available anywhere at my local gamestop. Poowee! __________________

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Xefi 癸亥 (guǐhài) Graphic Designer Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ Age: 40	^ lol...yeah. my wallet is also screaming bloody tears. i wanted to try out Ni no Kuni before this game, but i favor Fire Emblem Awakening over it. so i'll have to save some money and get Fire Emblem while passing on Ni no Kuni for a bit. i doubt i can dedicate my time to both game with the little limited time i have each days. oh well, Fire Emblem here i come! __________________ X.E.F.I.

2013-02-01, 11:43	Link #144
takai Easy Muffin Join Date: Jan 2013 Age: 30	I've never played Fire Emblem, but when I played the demo I liked it a lot. I'm definitely picking this one up. I really like how you can make your own avatar, which was what initially sparked my interest.

2013-02-03, 05:33	Link #152
JohnNiles Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011	I wonder why the release date is Monday and not Tuesday, like it is for most games. Ah well, I never liked Tuesday releases to begin with.

2013-02-03, 17:08	Link #153
Zakoo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gensokyo	I will totally become crazy, Wii u, PS4 and 3DS. My wallet can't hold all of this. I guess I will go for 3ds first then since I'm a huge fan of fire emblem.

2013-02-04, 13:01	Link #157
Mai Sakurando Dream Cat Author Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: MidNight ReflectionS	I gave up on finding the physical copy and go ahead and bought me the digital version. Now, let's see who to begin with for my avatar. Too many decisions and I am thinking of starting as female avatar first and have her pair up with Chrom. __________________

2013-02-05, 01:07	Link #159
takai Easy Muffin Join Date: Jan 2013 Age: 30	Smooth move Nintendo. The GameStop I work at got 39 calls regarding Fire Emblem. A lot of people aren't too happy.

2013-02-05, 01:18	Link #160
SOGESNAKE NEW WORLD BABY~! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Raftel Age: 32	Yeah, luckily I had decided to go to our local EB Games about 10-20 minutes after it opened in the morning.... to find out they had only gotten 1 copy of the game in. Still find it odd that a Nintendo title is having a hard time finding it's way to the stores... I do wonder if it would've helped better to just have the release date a normal Tuesday.... or a regular Nintendo Sunday release day. __________________