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Supernaut · 2003-11-07, 02:36

Too true, Esperchild. If you shop Amazon, beware the "Used" listings. Too many items are listed as a used US region 1 but are actually HK bootlegs.

The bootleggers seem to be ripping recent R1 releases now, too. I've seen an Excel Saga "Perfect collection" touted as "English Dubbed - as seen on Cartoon Network".

The Xenos · 2003-11-07, 09:23

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Originally Posted by Supernaut

The bootleggers seem to be ripping recent R1 releases now, too. I've seen an Excel Saga "Perfect collection" touted as "English Dubbed - as seen on Cartoon Network".

Rxcel Saga "as seen on Cartoon Network".. now that's jsut funny.

Anyway, on the topic of imports and bootlegs, my roomate is thinking of getting the HK / not-quite-legit box of Gear Fighter Dendoh. It's kinda a cheesy show, but it's got goofy mecha goodness which he likes. It's an obscure rather kiddy mecha anime that he doubts will get picked up. PLus it's already a few years old. Anyone think he should pick it up, esepcailly if it's looking more and more likey it won't be liscenced.

Also, in general, if a series seems more and more like it won't be liscenced, would you import the HK?

-Xenos

Tabiree · 2003-11-07, 09:54

I'd look into getting the R2s. If the series isn't as well known then expect pretty bad subs+video

Supernaut · 2003-11-07, 21:39

The Xenos-

Tell your roommate to look elsewhere. Picture/audio quality issues aside, the subtitles are absolutely horrible. Japanese to Chinese to English does evil things to the script.

Sabin · 2003-11-08, 11:22

I have some experience with bootlegs and its like russian roulette when it comes to quality. Also it seems that the more popular the show is, the better the quality will be. I have Naruto up to ep 34 and the picture and sub quality is pretty good. Just the occasional typo. The same goes for Azumanga Daioh. Sellvia on the other hand has VHS quality video and sound with subs that are totally incompreshensible. On the other hand it was some wicked case art that i am going to scan at work and make into a realy nice poster (working at a printing shop is great

)

Shouta · 2003-12-02, 18:03

If you're looking to check out some Dendoh, we have 1-8 finished at our channel on ETG #Infinite-Zero. We're hoping to get 9-11 out soon but since I'm insanely busy (I'm the translator) it's getting harder and harder to make time to finish stuff >_<. Anyway, If you're looking for it, just stop by and leave me a PM and I'll see if I can hook you up.

squalldawa · 2003-12-11, 13:49

It was 2 or 3 days ago, i saw the add to the right when i connected to animesuki, it was a website that made some special offers or 9usd per dvd. And so i cant remember the addresse, they had some Detective conan dvd bundles for 29 usd each, and so if someone remembers it..it was a single name address like www.animedvd.com or something...

lordwu · 2003-12-11, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by squalldawa

It was 2 or 3 days ago, i saw the add to the right when i connected to animesuki, it was a website that made some special offers or 9usd per dvd. And so i cant remember the addresse, they had some Detective conan dvd bundles for 29 usd each, and so if someone remembers it..it was a single name address like www.animedvd.com or something...

They are most likely to be bootlegs. Detective Conan is not released in US yet (licensed already) and I don't think there's a legit R3 DVD release out there.

Esperchld · 2003-12-11, 15:13

good for you for forgetting that site. All bootleg sites must be forgotten.

FinFangFoom · 2003-12-12, 04:26

Yeah bootleges are a waste, but if you really want the site just check your history in internet explorer, if you went to the site and didn't erase your history it should still be there. Also try google, lots of sites.

Genesis · 2004-01-04, 06:29

Sorry for asking I tried to find the answer on the other threads but didn't so if somebody with the knowledge could check the link and tell me I would me grateful!

I just don't want to buy bootleg..

Link to bootleg site removed

stingray · 2004-01-04, 06:32

well, it isn't licensed so yes, it's a bootleg.

i wouldn't doubt they have really bad subs w/ tons of grammatical errors and misspells.

xris · 2004-01-04, 06:38

Yes, they are bootlegs

Since no one has the license for Naruto (with English translation), it is a pirate copy, a bootleg.

You can tell because of the number of eps per DVD (21!!) and price (under $40).

It didn't say but they more than likely also have Chinese translations and are region-free.

Actually, they also sell a DVD with only eps 1-4 (for $15) which is not only a pirate copy but a real rip-off at that price! I would expect the official version to cost that much (when you take typical discounts into account)!

blkwdw13 · 2004-01-12, 11:44

Hey are all these bootlegs and if they are can't they get in serious trouble for having the on their site?

Edit by Mod (xris)

Yes... they are all bootlegs. There are plenty of clues to tell you they are pirate copies (please search the forums for other posts on how to spot bootlegs).

Closing thread

P.S. Some on-line shops don't know or care if they are bootlegs or not.

Ansible · 2004-01-14, 13:44

I just got GTO and evangelion on DVD, the cheapest box sets I could find, japanese language audio with english/chinese subtitles. I guess you get what you pay for; I'm dissapointed with the audio, which sounds muddy, and the subtitles are far below the quality I've come to expect from fansubs. Is this typical? There are misspelled words, the fonts are ugly, and sometimes whole sentences are just not even translated. And don't even talk to me about timing... ugh.

Is this typical of these japan-only dvds? Do DVDs with english dubbing usually have better english subtitles? I really prefer to watch with japanese sound and english subtitles over english dubs, and I'd rather not have to pay extra to get dubbed DVDs...

Flash_Squirrel · 2004-01-14, 13:47

Welcome into the world of bootlegged DVDs.

microlith · 2004-01-14, 14:06

If you were to buy legit R1 dvds with Japanese/English audio and English subtitles, you would'nt have the problems with piss-poor audio, video, and utterly crap subs.

I suggest www.rightstuf.com to start, check the "Where To Buy" thread for more info.

Ansible · 2004-01-14, 18:00

Doh! It never even crossed my mind that these were bootlegs. It makes sense though, given the huge asian bootleg software scene, especially in china.

StarCreator · 2004-01-15, 03:04

Anything with only Japanese language (no English or other language dub) with English -and Chinese- subtitles that is region free is VERY likely to be a bootleg. The only exception to this I've ever found are the very early Odex DVD sets (but Odex started applying region coding, then stopped producing DVDs entirely).

scotty81 · 2004-01-15, 05:59

in the french evangelion dvd version , there are many mistakes in the subs.
you have ... instead of à , ^ instead of ù . and you have to pay 25€ for that.

2003-12-11, 13:49	Link #27
squalldawa Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2003	please, i cant remember this website... It was 2 or 3 days ago, i saw the add to the right when i connected to animesuki, it was a website that made some special offers or 9usd per dvd. And so i cant remember the addresse, they had some Detective conan dvd bundles for 29 usd each, and so if someone remembers it..it was a single name address like www.animedvd.com or something...

2004-01-04, 06:29	Link #31
Genesis Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Age: 40	Naruto with english subs. bootleg? Sorry for asking I tried to find the answer on the other threads but didn't so if somebody with the knowledge could check the link and tell me I would me grateful! I just don't want to buy bootleg.. Link to bootleg site removed Last edited by xris; 2004-01-04 at 06:33. Reason: Removed link

2004-01-04, 06:38	Link #33
xris Just call me Ojisan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: U.K. Hampshire	Yes, they are bootlegs Since no one has the license for Naruto (with English translation), it is a pirate copy, a bootleg. You can tell because of the number of eps per DVD (21!!) and price (under $40). It didn't say but they more than likely also have Chinese translations and are region-free. Actually, they also sell a DVD with only eps 1-4 (for $15) which is not only a pirate copy but a real rip-off at that price! I would expect the official version to cost that much (when you take typical discounts into account)! Last edited by xris; 2004-01-04 at 06:42. Reason: Extra

2004-01-12, 11:44	Link #34
blkwdw13 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003	Naruto DVD's Hey are all these bootlegs and if they are can't they get in serious trouble for having the on their site? Edit by Mod (xris) Yes... they are all bootlegs. There are plenty of clues to tell you they are pirate copies (please search the forums for other posts on how to spot bootlegs). Closing thread P.S. Some on-line shops don't know or care if they are bootlegs or not.

2004-01-14, 13:44	Link #35
Ansible Member Join Date: Jan 2004	DVD subtitle quality!? I just got GTO and evangelion on DVD, the cheapest box sets I could find, japanese language audio with english/chinese subtitles. I guess you get what you pay for; I'm dissapointed with the audio, which sounds muddy, and the subtitles are far below the quality I've come to expect from fansubs. Is this typical? There are misspelled words, the fonts are ugly, and sometimes whole sentences are just not even translated. And don't even talk to me about timing... ugh. Is this typical of these japan-only dvds? Do DVDs with english dubbing usually have better english subtitles? I really prefer to watch with japanese sound and english subtitles over english dubs, and I'd rather not have to pay extra to get dubbed DVDs...

2003-11-07, 02:36	Link #21
Supernaut Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003	Too true, Esperchild. If you shop Amazon, beware the "Used" listings. Too many items are listed as a used US region 1 but are actually HK bootlegs. The bootleggers seem to be ripping recent R1 releases now, too. I've seen an Excel Saga "Perfect collection" touted as "English Dubbed - as seen on Cartoon Network".

2003-11-07, 09:54	Link #23
Tabiree FUNimation's Gen Fukunaga Join Date: Nov 2003	I'd look into getting the R2s. If the series isn't as well known then expect pretty bad subs+video

2003-11-07, 21:39	Link #24
Supernaut Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003	The Xenos- Tell your roommate to look elsewhere. Picture/audio quality issues aside, the subtitles are absolutely horrible. Japanese to Chinese to English does evil things to the script.

2003-11-08, 11:22	Link #25
Sabin Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 44	I have some experience with bootlegs and its like russian roulette when it comes to quality. Also it seems that the more popular the show is, the better the quality will be. I have Naruto up to ep 34 and the picture and sub quality is pretty good. Just the occasional typo. The same goes for Azumanga Daioh. Sellvia on the other hand has VHS quality video and sound with subs that are totally incompreshensible. On the other hand it was some wicked case art that i am going to scan at work and make into a realy nice poster (working at a printing shop is great )

2003-12-02, 18:03	Link #26
Shouta Infinite-Zero/Translator Join Date: Dec 2003	If you're looking to check out some Dendoh, we have 1-8 finished at our channel on ETG #Infinite-Zero. We're hoping to get 9-11 out soon but since I'm insanely busy (I'm the translator) it's getting harder and harder to make time to finish stuff >_<. Anyway, If you're looking for it, just stop by and leave me a PM and I'll see if I can hook you up.

2003-12-11, 15:13	Link #29
Esperchld Photographer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio, USA Age: 43	good for you for forgetting that site. All bootleg sites must be forgotten.

2004-01-04, 06:32	Link #32
stingray Kinda Sorta Anime fan Join Date: Dec 2003	well, it isn't licensed so yes, it's a bootleg. i wouldn't doubt they have really bad subs w/ tons of grammatical errors and misspells.

2004-01-14, 13:47	Link #36
Flash_Squirrel F&C Fanboy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saiph	Welcome into the world of bootlegged DVDs.

2004-01-14, 14:06	Link #37
microlith Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Folsom, CA Age: 41	If you were to buy legit R1 dvds with Japanese/English audio and English subtitles, you would'nt have the problems with piss-poor audio, video, and utterly crap subs. I suggest www.rightstuf.com to start, check the "Where To Buy" thread for more info.

2004-01-14, 18:00	Link #38
Ansible Member Join Date: Jan 2004	Doh! It never even crossed my mind that these were bootlegs. It makes sense though, given the huge asian bootleg software scene, especially in china.

2004-01-15, 03:04	Link #39
StarCreator HnK founding lunatic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 41	Anything with only Japanese language (no English or other language dub) with English -and Chinese- subtitles that is region free is VERY likely to be a bootleg. The only exception to this I've ever found are the very early Odex DVD sets (but Odex started applying region coding, then stopped producing DVDs entirely). __________________ * StarCreator * Hikari no Kiseki

2004-01-15, 05:59	Link #40
scotty81 DSL addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brest, Brittany, France Age: 42	in the french evangelion dvd version , there are many mistakes in the subs. you have ... instead of à , ^ instead of ù . and you have to pay 25€ for that.