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2010-12-05, 22:33 | Link #462 | ||
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Rin really did love Tokiomi, and respected him. Hell, even as she was about to be killed by Saber in the prologue, she didn't hate her, but was only mused on her cool efficiency and grace. Rin does have many layers. Quote:
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2010-12-05, 23:05 | Link #464 | |
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As for how I was planning on doing that. I planned on Shirou following along with Kiritsugu on one of the trips that he takes and seeing how Kiritsugu really works when something goes wrong. Honestly this all came from when Kiritsugu tells Shirou during the whole Magus walk alongside death speech, "You die when you die, and you kill when you must." I wanted to write a Shirou that took that line a bit more seriously. |
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2010-12-05, 23:08 | Link #465 | |
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How can I explain myself without saying something that'll get me misunderstood, sounding like "you just hate Rin"? Hmm... I'll have to think on that....but I'll keep that for another time. Quote:
Also the "killer" part of it could just mean combat effectiveness, not that he slaughters magi left and right. Just that he is effective against them. Quote:
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2010-12-05, 23:16 | Link #467 | |
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2010-12-05, 23:54 | Link #468 | ||
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2010-12-06, 08:07 | Link #469 | |
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And, really, if Rin were to put her entire life on hold to help Sakura, then that would just make Sakura feel even worse, because she'd think she's intruding. She has to help Sakura, of course, but the best way to do that isn't necessarily to spend every waking moment with her. We simply don't know what exactly she would do here, and I agree with you that Rin isn't the best at dealing with such situations, but at least she has Shirou to help, and it hardly takes much of a change in their routine for Sakura to come see them in the morning even if Rin stays around at Shirou's that night (or, hell, Sakura could come with her, if necessary). But, yeah, RB, it's well-written, although I would also like to know more about what happens to Sakura here. Rin's reaction to her father is probably about right. She recognises that he's an idiot, that he caused Sakura lot of suffering and that she is never going to live up to his ideal (and, indeed, does not want to), but she still loves him nonetheless. |
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2010-12-06, 10:50 | Link #470 | |
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Shirou followed his father's degraded ideal (kill one to save many) in precisely one ending (which is the MoS Bad End), and I very much doubt that doing so made him happy. Further, Kiritsugu knew the problems with that ideal (because it fucked his life up and resulted in him losing his wife and kid and killing many innocents for nothing), so he sure as hell wouldn't encourage Shirou to follow it. Shirou just wants to help people, and there's no way that, as a 13-year-old kid, he'd accept that he can't do that and he has to resolve to just murdering innocent people in cold blood because they're "in the way", like his father did. It's simply not in-character for him to do so unless he has some huge choice between protecting someone he loves and potentially letting others die to make like he did in HF (and like Kiritsugu had to make in his backstory), and even then it's more than likely that he'd just abandon the ideal and save the person, because that's how Shirou is. He's an idealist, and it's pretty damn hard to stop a 13-year-old from thinking that way (even Kiritsugu was an idealist at that age). And, if Kiritsugu were to still follow the ideal, then he'd probably have left Shirou to die (or left him in the orphanage), because the main reason he saved him was so that he could have something to cling on to, to say that he'd saved at least one life amongst the mess of the Grail War that had killed so many for nothing. |
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I know, but when I feel off when I want to make such a change that creates so many plot holes and just labels it as AU. I mean, it's one thing if that's what I was aiming for, but it's another when my goal is something close to canon.
Child Solider Shirou is going to have to be put on the back burner for right now. I'm going to try to think up of a new thing. Probably try a hand at humor before going back to trying a serious story. |
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Honestly, I'm sick of all this glorification of the idea of murdering innocent people, even if it's for a "good cause".... We get enough of it from people saying "wow, isn't the Mind of Steel ending awesome?" Even if you ignore the fact that he's probably just doomed the entirety of Fuyuki to being swallowed by the Grail mud, it's still not a good thing that he's decided to murder an innocent girl who dearly loves him and deserves a chance in life (that he can perhaps give her) in cold blood.... |
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