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Old 2013-03-05, 17:36   Link #12641
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I dunno about the character's part...I for one love the cast of the Monogatari series. Plus Zen, Kumagawa, Emukae, Shiranui and a few others.

And I'm sure a lot of others do too.
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Old 2013-03-05, 17:42   Link #12642
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I dunno about the character's part...I for one love the cast of the Monogatari series. Plus Zen, Kumagawa, Emukae, Shiranui and a few others.

And I'm sure a lot of others do too.
Yep, the characters from Monogarari are great, as are the ones in Medaka Box. The thing that poster from MAL doesn't seem to grasp is that most of Nisio's characyers are there to pose a question to the audience about something, to get them to think about something.
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Old 2013-03-05, 17:48   Link #12643
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I like the characters in Monogatari, as well. Not as much a fan of the characters in Medaka Box. I like some of them, but others I could really do without. Especially all the characters that serve no real purpose to the story and end up being discarded in a few chapters, never to be seen again except for the occasional cameo. He's done that with a LOT of characters in this manga. I just feel like most of the characters in MB are shallow and undeveloped compared to his other works.
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Old 2013-03-05, 18:02   Link #12644
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A lot of Nisio's character development for characters in Medaka box seem quite arbitary, outside of the obvious glaring fault I'd probably say Nisio's handled it quite badly considering this development for almost all characters in this manga. Ironically Zenkichi for as much as he got screwed over/not developed and the butt of the manga for a long time he probably so far got developed the best, he got a reasonable character climax and a great arc climax.

Was it really so difficult for Nisio to bother doing at lest some of that shit, with another character, any other character.
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Old 2013-03-05, 18:19   Link #12645
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Zenkichi always the bridesmaid but never the bride...that sounds off for some reason.
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Old 2013-03-05, 19:17   Link #12646
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Zenkichi always the bridesmaid but never the bride...that sounds off for some reason.
Wait Zenkichi still engaged to the girl unless it gets called off, so how is that comparison remotely true? You can argue maybe in the future but you should be currently replacing Kumagawa in that phrase (which would actually make more sense). This is ignoring the fact that Zenkichi has 2 girls who are more than willing to be with should things with Medaka go awry.

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Old 2013-03-05, 19:37   Link #12647
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Wait a minute. Zenkichi now owner of the main achievements in the manga.
On the battlefield - a victory over Iihiko.
In love - Medaka.
Absolute top.
I do not want to offend fans Kumagawa. But the events of the last two chapters (with a calm deliberation) more like an honorable retirement. Than the actual elevation. Something like a very honorable but nothing decisive positions. And the status of the younger brother as the honorable award.

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Old 2013-03-05, 19:57   Link #12648
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Nn, those spoilers... yeah, I think I'm done reading Medaka Box. Someone PM me if the next arc is somehow a titanic jump in quality or something, okay?
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You know, Medaka Box is probably the worst thing he's ever written, and Katanagatari the second-worst. Neither is particularly indicative of the rest of his body of work. His books do tend to vary a lot in quality, but only because he writes so god-damned much.
So please, don't judge him based on a no-effort work like this. Normally his stories actually do have some kind of internal logic, even if that logic is weird.
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Old 2013-03-05, 20:01   Link #12649
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At the rate this is going... I feel like Medaka box might get axed pretty soon.
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Old 2013-03-05, 20:02   Link #12650
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At the rate this is going... I feel like Medaka box might get axed pretty soon.
yet the spoilers say otherwise...
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Old 2013-03-06, 03:33   Link #12651
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that most of Nisio's characyers are there to pose a question to the audience about something, to get them to think about something.
The problem is that not all want to read some psychobabbling about some shit. They want to read manga with manga characters. And as stand alone Medaka characters sometimes do seem pretty shitty and one sided in comparison to the same Monogatari.

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yet the spoilers say otherwise...
It could be that MB will be for some reason stretched out. Normally Jump is pretty strict but for some titles it takes softer approach. Maybe they just like to taste Nishio's ass and ride his name even though the popularity of his manga is crap low.
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Old 2013-03-06, 09:39   Link #12652
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Nn, those spoilers... yeah, I think I'm done reading Medaka Box. Someone PM me if the next arc is somehow a titanic jump in quality or something, okay?
Ok, will do.

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You know, Medaka Box is probably the worst thing he's ever written
It's depressing how often I'm hearing this everywhere. Like, seriously, must the fifth time in these weeks.
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Old 2013-03-06, 09:48   Link #12653
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Nn, those spoilers... yeah, I think I'm done reading Medaka Box. Someone PM me if the next arc is somehow a titanic jump in quality or something, okay?

You know, Medaka Box is probably the worst thing he's ever written, and Katanagatari the second-worst. Neither is particularly indicative of the rest of his body of work. His books do tend to vary a lot in quality, but only because he writes so god-damned much.
So please, don't judge him based on a no-effort work like this. Normally his stories actually do have some kind of internal logic, even if that logic is weird.
I was just quoting someone on MAL. I actually really liked the Monogatari series. My point mostly applied to this manga and how surprised I was with how the quality didnt live up to his former works. I'm honestly wondering if it has something to do with the medium-- just because someone is great at writing novels, doesn't mean he's automatically good at writing for comics (or manga). There's a lot of difference between the two. Pacing, development, etc.
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Old 2013-03-06, 13:45   Link #12654
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So the next chapter..Kumagawa mainly is the central character..despite graduating.
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Old 2013-03-07, 08:17   Link #12655
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Does anyone remember when kumagawa was convincing Naze to join the minus and he showed her a list of the members, does anyone know if that "trump card" ever appeared,(unless it was ajimu) and maybe once the new freshman appear maybe that person will be among them considering kumagawa named him as a "child"..any thoughts?
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Old 2013-03-07, 09:19   Link #12656
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It was Ajimu.
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Old 2013-03-07, 19:28   Link #12657
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Expect the release to be tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/CXCScans/status/309810504245862400
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Old 2013-03-08, 06:38   Link #12658
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Spoiler for for now the last page(raw) before the scan came out:


Spoiler for nienami...:
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Old 2013-03-08, 06:44   Link #12659
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she stand beside zenkizhi (possible romance?)
Seriously? Zen loving anyone other than Medaka? Get real.
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Old 2013-03-08, 06:53   Link #12660
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what i mean that nienami was in love in zenkichi, that would be interesting. sorry for the misunderstanding.
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