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Durandal's motives were quite different; he was interested in conquering/dominating the world only as a means to his ultimate end: to enact the Destiny Plan. His overall objective wasn't evil at all; in fact, it could be argued that his intentions were well-meaning. Of course, it neither justifies his actions nor does it make him any less of a villain, but Durandal lacks the selfishness inherent in that of the UC villains.
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Anyways I started this discourse only to see if could figure out the element in the ending of Victory that surprisingly reminded me of GSD's ending. It's clear that the common link is the idea of exterting complete control over individual lives that the villians in the two series tried to accomplish (I thought Zanscare would've went ahead with the Angel Halo no matter what the result of their conventional war was). Other UC villians might've tried conquer the world but their methods would resulted in a lesser form of control. However you are right that it's implausible to compare any thing in Victory to GSD. I seriously doubt that Fukuda ever sat down and watched Victory since so few gundam fans do. |
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2007-09-24, 11:51 | Link #89 |
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A couple of months or so ago, I caught the first ep of Victory Gundam here on a-suki, and for a 90's anime, it was pretty damned good. Exceptional, even - in fact, I found it compared favorably to the CE stuff (OK, since I've only seen the one ep, I can't say for sure, since there hasn't exactly been any opportunity for canned footage yet...)
And then I waited, and waited, and waited, and, you know what - there's still only that one episode available subbed. Which is really sad. I'd love to see what happens next, and MAHQ imagery promises that the mobile suits will look spectacular... What happened? V Gundam is the last full length UC show, and the last (aired)Gundam show of any length unavailable to the western public (i.e. us drooling fans). In fact, it's one of a bare handfull of animated Gundam productions not listed on the license page... GIVE! :-) At any rate, here's to hoping I manage to spark some discussion and interest in the show so the subbers pick it back up again - it would give us something *else* to watch in between 00 eps - or a fallback incase 00 flops completely. |
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2007-09-26, 19:46 | Link #92 |
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I personally didn't find the Motorrad Fleet to be that goofy. Why waste missiles and beam energy to blow up buildings when those beams and missiles can be fired at enemy mechs while the ships just crush everything under-tire? It worked great for that first city they hit after they landed on earth, then they just blow up whatever is off their course with missiles like they did with that church.
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2007-09-26, 20:31 | Link #94 |
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To my eye, the animation was at least somewhat under-par for its time with the exectpion of some episodes like the final episode. As a friend of mine said, "G.I.Joe has better animation." And he meant the older G.I.Joe.
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2007-09-26, 20:39 | Link #95 |
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It's only the worse visual production of any Gundam series (I just mean it's general animation, not that the production failed as in GSD's case)...Don't get me wrong it doesn't really hamper my enjoyment because I love old school looking, grimey, gritty, imperfect renderings that give certain series that "homely" feel, but I can understand why one would criticize V-Gundam's visuals...Nevertheless there are some higher produced scenes thru-out the series that are of a better marginal quality...
And yeah GI Joe was better in some instances...If you look at Zeta from 1985, V's not even in the same Colony Zip code when it comes to the depth of animation...I still really enjoyed it though...
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2007-09-26, 21:38 | Link #96 | |
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Of course, if you're talking about art direction or character/mecha designs, I can certainly understand how they can turn people off. Personally, I liked its dreary, dark and desolate settings. It fit the mood of the series quite well, and matched well with the equally dreary and melancholic orchestral music. And of course, there's the excellent battle choreography, as mentioned earlier.
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I'm talking strictly the depth of the animation and the detail...In lots of instances there is none...From afar sometimes the Gundam or MS would look like crude renderings...Now I did see some DVD eps of V but mostly the fansubbed eps and while you see better smoothness depending on what version you watch you still get a sense of what's real good renderings and what's half-a$$ or marginal...Another key as Shinji noted is the timeframe inwhich V is produced making the animation more criticized...
Now for Zeta, again I've seen both fansubbed and DVD...The DVD kills Victory in the crispness and attention to detail...But even while watching the fansubs I could clearly see an animation effort that was beyond it's time...Victory doesn't have that in the same abundance...As for atmosphere, music, and everything else you mentioned I totally agree...That's why the minor//major flaws in general animation don't really affect my enjoyment of V...Additionally there's some real good production in the end where it counts...
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2007-09-26, 22:10 | Link #98 | |
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However, from what I've seen of that era (1990-1993) I have to say I can hardly remember any TV anime that was actually animated well (maybe someone can enlighten me though). The 80's were a bit of a renaissance for anime in general, and IMO many of the shows actually had better animation than those of the early 90's. Tekkaman Blade comes to mind for how crude and low budget shows from that age can be...
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^I mean even Gundam X suffered slightly from this aswell (Although I'd say to a lesser degree than V)...I think Tomino (even in Turn A) seems to have a much more theatrical approach to the G-series, making attention to mecha detail standout, so it was kind of odd to me that Victory is his least detailed-oriented G-series...
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wingdarkness already covered most of my points, but I think that there's also a certain lack of polish to Victory that isn't really present in most of the other Gundam shows. It's as if they were being too unsubtle about hiding a budgetary/production shortfall. This is a likely explanation since this came at a time when Sunrise was in poor financial shape, which lead to Bandai buying them up. I generally don't care that much about the visual quality of a show, so while it's a little unusual for me to notice it in Victory, it doesn't really bother me either. Quote:
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