2014-02-08, 01:20 | Link #2161 | |
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Just finished watching a straight marathon of Ep 1 - 18, and I have to say, I enjoy this show a lot. The first 5 or 6 episodes made me want to beat my head off my keyboard in regards to Hikari and Manaka's characters, but I'm glad to see they actually grew up a little. It was nearly unbearable for me to watch Hikari and his seemingly pointless anger issues.
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Personally I'd like to see Hikari and Manaka get together, just as long as they want to be together, not because someone else died for it to happen. |
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2014-02-08, 12:07 | Link #2162 | |
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I would like to see Hikari and Manaka together as well, and I don't think it's unlikely to happen. Manaka seemed to develop romantic feelings towards Hikari, and it all comes down to whether or not those feelings will continue to grow. I hope they will, but only time will tell. |
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2014-02-08, 12:22 | Link #2163 |
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Hmm. While I agree that phrases such as "X 'deserves' to be with Y" cannot apply to love in real life, I don't think that's necessarily an incorrect way to think in fictional works like anime. After all, good romantic drama--and any interpersonal relationship for that matter--has to engage and interest the viewer in some way. That means some characters may actually have a more compelling reason to be in love or even end up with with somebody else. This is one of the reasons I never really cared for Sayu's infatuation with Kaname, because it appeared too superficial (i.e., falling for a charming pretty boy). Now in the real life that happens all the damn time. I've had a major crush on a girl for no real reason other than the fact that she was cute and treated me nice. Not very compelling writing material. But who cares? I'm a real person and I'm not defined by how "interesting" some audience sees me. Fictional characters are definitely subject to that judgement.
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2014-02-08, 12:34 | Link #2164 | |
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2014-02-08, 12:40 | Link #2165 | |
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PS:I think seabed suited Manaka more as literaly everyone (including teacher, and Sayu) are more interesting characters. |
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2014-02-08, 13:39 | Link #2167 |
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I have no idea. It absolutely wouldn't surprise me if Manaka still isn't conscious and is instead being hospitalized for examination. So the next episode simply focuses on how the gang--specifically Hikari and Miuna--deals with the impact of her return. This show can drag it's feet sometimes...
Edit: I don't recall seeing Manaka awake in the preview for next episode, but my assumption could still totally be wrong. |
2014-02-08, 13:53 | Link #2168 |
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to be fair so far the next episode previews never really spoiled the big stuff like that Kaname didnt show up in the preview for 17 and his awakening was a complete surprise at the end of 16. The show gives enough in the previews to give you a very rough picture of the next episode but they arent as telling as alot of other anime.
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2014-02-08, 14:00 | Link #2169 | |
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This so much. |
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2014-02-08, 17:36 | Link #2170 | |
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And in a roundabout way, I think that one of the themes with this sort of story is that there is no fairness in love. Or, to put it the old-fashioned way, "all's fair in love and war" (i.e. conventional fairness doesn't apply here, at all).
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2014-02-08, 18:55 | Link #2171 |
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the picture book Miori was reading Miuna caught my attention. It seems to encapsualte the show themes. It has words from the title in it "calm/lull" and "tomorrow". It also talks about the "light"(Hikari).
The same vibe i got when Akari was explaining to her son what "Tomorrow" meant. The concept of "tomorrow" has been thrown a lot in this show. Could it be the characters searching for this metaphysical "tomorrow" that never seems to come? Last edited by deadite; 2014-02-08 at 19:24. |
2014-02-08, 19:55 | Link #2173 |
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My thoughts exactly, to me it is quite obvious Manaka offered her life to the sea god and he wont give it back just as easily, Hikari & Co. need to find another sacrifice of equal value, remember the law of equivalent exchange >_<
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2014-02-08, 23:28 | Link #2174 |
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How are Miuna's feelings for Hikari more 'meaningful' than Sayu's feelings for Kaname? As far as I can see, Miuna's feelings are just a misguided childhood crush which got dragged by years of absence fed by fantasies and wishful thinking. The last episode kind of proves the point. Sayu's feelings, on the other hand, just seem a more normal crush on an attractive, charming male character which rekindled after years of absence. It's not just Sayu who wants Kaname's attention, but a lot of the girls in her class. Because of that, I think they are more plausible (but not likely to happen with the time constrains, except hinting at it). Miuna could be very well mistaking familial love with romantic love.
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2014-02-08, 23:43 | Link #2175 | |
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Here some list from previous discussion that maybe could answer whether Miuna feeling towards Hikari is a meaningful ones (or not... ) Quote:
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Admiration This is why some strong character (usually the protagonist) would attract a bunch of love interest from the heroines. It's not a shame if you fall in love because of an admiration. Pretty much of love story that what happened IRL and Fiction also started from an admiration (well, I don't have any number to backing this fact...). Happened to: - Miuna to Hikari - Sayu to Kaname - Manaka to Hikari - Chisaki to Hikari - Chisaki to Tsumugu Growing ups Together This reason brings the famuous osanajimi/childhood friend genre. Usually you would want to spent your entire live with someone that grown ups together with you. Happened to: - Hikari to Manaka - Manaka to Hikari - Chisaki to Hikari - Chisaki to Tsumugu - Kaname to Chisaki Wanna Protect their Smile This also a good reason to fall in love. Much of the reason of protagonist that fall in love to the heroine/hero is because they wanna protect the heroin/hero smile/happiness. Usually, it's the result of an events. Happened to: - Hikari to Manaka - Miuna to Hikari - Tsumugu to Chisaki? He/She changed/saved your Live We tend to love the ones who has big impact in our live story. Whether it's them who bring a change in our live, or them who change us and made us growing as person, or them who save our live. Happened to: - Miuna to Hikari - Hikari to Manaka? - Chisaki to Tsumugu? PS: This is my favorite reason. I recomend Koe no Katachi manga as reference. The main love story in this manga is based on the reason above. It's one of those heartwarming story that you'd sure will fall in love with ( YMMV). Go read it now and tell me how do you feel after reading it. |
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2014-02-09, 05:23 | Link #2179 | |
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2014-02-09, 05:28 | Link #2180 | |
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A normal relationship wouldn't be one to be part of the past, but a person's present and future. ices: If you use "bring out the best of Miuna", then you can play that card too with Kaname and Sayu when she was a little kid. He also brings out the worst of her (the entire 'date' episode) and the last episode was borderline this until Uroko appeared. That list is interesting but ultimately undermining the characters as individuals, reducing them into check ups like a laundry list. I would not really use it to prove something 'meaningful'. What's with the "?" Chisaki saved Tsumugu from drowning and Hikari did the same this last episode with Manaka.
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drama, harem, love polygon, mari okada, p.a. works, romance, seinen |
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