(L) Kaze no Stigma

[Shiki Nanaya]

Originally Posted by Susanou

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I doubt if you would be able to stop someone with ease after assuming she has been dead for years and she suddenly appears before your eyes

Glad to see the show's finally back to it's main plot--the last couple of episodes didn't really appeal to me. It seems that guy with the mask (Vernheart Rhodes) is gonna make his appearance next week (ok appeared this week in the flashback of that guy but we didn't saw his face). And of course, we have Tsuo Rin vs. Ayano =D

As for Kazuma..he'll probably find out sooner or later his brother is missing and comes to rescue him for the usual fee

True, I guess it's not going to be easy doing so especially by their unexpected reunion, but what i meant was if he truly desired to keep her there - like a little chat to catch up lol Also a question:

Spoiler for Stars of Sagacity:

Ya im glad it's now going to its main plot. Ya i was wondering if the Vernheart Rhodes is the mastermind or leader of the organization, since i know from the flashback that he is the guy who executed the ritual. Still i want to know if he is a subordinate of Lapis/Rapis or is he the master of that youma, though in my opinion it is lapis who's in charge, still i want to confirm it.

Also about Ren being kidnapped or missing, i mean i know kazuma will rescue him for sure, but what about their father I mean didnt he already recovered, i mean he should play a bigger role or at least a role like katherine lol. Seriously i hope he takes part in battles as well, like rescuing ren, since i am more interested in Kazuma confronting Tsoi Rin and Vernheart Rhodes, rather than him rescuing Ren AGAIN which has already been done

[QUOTE=Deathkillz;1088388]rin...

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i wonder why she showed up all of a sudden...from the looks of it she still retained some if not all of her past memories yet she just ran away from kazuma ~ would be understandable if the past enemy kazuma lost rin to took control over her body but she appears to have a will ~ and the fight in the preview O.O i smell epixness all around XD

Spoiler for Tsoi Rin:

I know same here! I was wondering why she showed up all of a sudden, if you notice it, Kazuma was in an alley so it wasn't just coincidence that she passed by, but for sure she went there to see him. Yes i completely agree with you since i also thought that she still had or have retained all/some of her past memories with him and i think thats a credible reason as why she would ran away from him. You know since she might not know how to approach him, thinking that she would for sure be different than what he expected her to be. Still Kazuma's in deep thought now, i dont blame him at all.

In my opinion, I think that it is possible that she may still love Kazuma, despite her sould being taken over by the youma, Lapis, her heart and mind is still the same, so her feelings and memories should still be there. Man i cant wait for ep.19, im wondering if Ayano will be able to find out or realize Tsoi Rin's connection to Kazuma, ah man i'd love to see Ayano's reaction when she finds out that the girl she's fighting with is Kazuma's lover. I can just imagine her trying to fight her with other intentions, like getting rid of her number 1 rival

[TougeSil80]

Alright just watched up to ep.13. Just a question though

Spoiler for up to ep.13:

How related are Ayano and Kazuma? They seem to have different parents, but are their father brothers? If it is then they really shouldn't be dating.

[Anh_Minh]

For the nth time - in Japan, and in most of the world, it's okay for first cousins to marry.

Their fathers are actually cousins, not brothers, anyway.

[TougeSil80]

Thanks for the info. That makes it less creepy.

[Deathwing]

well i just started watching this and finished the miso arc and i have to say kazuma seems like the biggest jerk alive

miso made the decision for the demon power but kazuma had a hand in driving her to it because he insulted her brother who recently passed and basically mocked miso until she snapped and then he has the nerve to give her that whole self righteous speech to her at the end.

What really pisses me off is that Kazuma is mad at the family for having lots of power and treating him like trash so what does he do get lots of power and starts treating people like trash
seriously i have never seen an anime where i want the main character to get the living crap beat out of him
also the family love affair creeps me out i know its a cultural thing but still

[holyman282]

Originally Posted by Deathwing

well i just started watching this and finished the miso arc and i have to say kazuma seems like the biggest jerk alive

miso made the decision for the demon power but kazuma had a hand in driving her to it because he insulted her brother who recently passed and basically mocked miso until she snapped and then he has the nerve to give her that whole self righteous speech to her at the end.

What really pisses me off is that Kazuma is mad at the family for having lots of power and treating him like trash so what does he do get lots of power and starts treating people like trash
seriously i have never seen an anime where i want the main character to get the living crap beat out of him

Personally in the miso arc i think kazuma was helping her. The thing you must understand is that it's difficult for Kazuma to show care openly, so he disguises most of his caring actions behind, either "it's for money" or just plain insulting them or leading them on.

The thing with Miso is that she was already going to stab Kazuma even if he didn't insult her brother cause you see she already had the knife stashed away. Kazuma being the sort of person, tried to release all her pent up anger (cause keeping it in can't be healthy.)... So if you look at it, Kazuma isn't a jerk, in fact he's a pretty nice person hiding behind a facade of indifference.

Perhaps you haven't watched his actions closely enough, because what's cool about him is the way in which he shows his caring side.

[Deathwing]

Originally Posted by holyman282

Personally in the miso arc i think kazuma was helping her. The thing you must understand is that it's difficult for Kazuma to show care openly, so he disguises most of his caring actions behind, either "it's for money" or just plain insulting them or leading them on.

The thing with Miso is that she was already going to stab Kazuma even if he didn't insult her brother cause you see she already had the knife stashed away. Kazuma being the sort of person, tried to release all her pent up anger (cause keeping it in can't be healthy.)... So if you look at it, Kazuma isn't a jerk, in fact he's a pretty nice person hiding behind a facade of indifference.

Perhaps you haven't watched his actions closely enough, because what's cool about him is the way in which he shows his caring side.

im focusing on after the knife incident
well he could have apologized and not have said something like your brother died because he was weak and after the 2nd attempt he just insulted her by saying you can never scratch me however true it may be he didn't have to say it. this would lead a person in grief to do something for power so in turn he was the main driving force to her decision(although i admit it was her decision in the end.)

i realize he does hide is emotions behind the tough facade but so did his father (the scene when kazuma won his father was impressed by his growth) and most of his family

the thing that really bothers me is that he is becoming his family and it seems to be rather hypocritical running his mouth about his family when he is becoming so much like them

mabye ill change my mind later after seeing more of this series but for now i wanna see kazuma get knocked off his high horse

[Anh_Minh]

Agreed with Holyman. Kazuma's was making so she wouldn't feel guilty about trying to stab him, and also working with the principle that anger was better than grief. At least with him as an enemy, she had something to look forward to.

[TougeSil80]

I agree with DeathWing more on the Misao incident. She was feeling grief that her brother was killed by Tatsuya. But Tatsuya was dead, so her borther's death was advenged. Kazuma should've left it at that. There was really no reason to tell her the truth.

[Deathwing]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Agreed with Holyman. Kazuma's was making so she wouldn't feel guilty about trying to stab him, and also working with the principle that anger was better than grief. At least with him as an enemy, she had something to look forward to.

go find somebody's brother who died, now tell them it was because they were too weak, see if they don't try to do anything to beat the crap out of you
that is just beyond tough facade to downright mean. he could have at least said im sorry or my condolences or he could have shut the hell up

[holyman282]

Originally Posted by Deathwing

go find somebody's brother who died, now tell them it was because they were too weak, see if they don't try to do anything to beat the crap out of you
that is just beyond tough facade to downright mean. he could have at least said im sorry or my condolences or he could have shut the hell up

I think you forgot one important thing, Miso's brother's death was partly Kazuma's fault..... He was the one who didn't clear the matter up and caused them to chase after him and subsequently gets killed by the youma possessed guy.

If that's the case you can also see it as Kazuma feeling guilty about the death of her brother and taking responsibility (even though it wasn't his fault as he didn't kill him).

Call it however you like but he was showing sympathy and care the only way he knew how. If you watch further, you'll see alot of these actions coming from Kazuma of apparently being a jerk on the surface, but deep down he shows genuine concern.

Offcourse you are entitled to your own opinion, but i find his actions quite touching, as a person who finds difficulty in expressing his feelings, try to do so in the only way he knows how.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Deathwing

go find somebody's brother who died, now tell them it was because they were too weak, see if they don't try to do anything to beat the crap out of you
that is just beyond tough facade to downright mean. he could have at least said im sorry or my condolences or he could have shut the hell up

But that's the point. He wanted her to attack him. It would be cathartic.

If he'd been nice, she'd have felt bad for wanting to knife him.

[usagijen]

I better double time on summarizing.. I want to catch up with this Kazuma arc..! >__<''''

in any case, here's my (once again) delayed summary of Episode 16, and...
my Deep Frying / Retelling of the Real Father and Son Story~ :3

[Kazuma77]

thanks usagijen you have great summaries... i dont know why Kazuma&Ayano relationship doesnt progress the same way in anime... in anime looks like its not going anywhere...

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by TougeSil80

I agree with DeathWing more on the Misao incident. She was feeling grief that her brother was killed by Tatsuya. But Tatsuya was dead, so her borther's death was advenged. Kazuma should've left it at that. There was really no reason to tell her the truth.

the whole point of kazuma telling misao about was to allow her to let out any frustration, angst, fury, anger, sorrow on him instead of letting her keep all of that inside with certainly wasnt healthy or doing any favors for her :/ i guess the danger here is that you never know when she might go crazy so kazuma aimed to remove that before she got out of hand later on...telling her sooner rather than too late shows how much kazuma cared and he did act like a jerk on purpose fro misao to realise this (you can tell she was on edge already when she was keeping that dagger hidden...its just that kazuma never thought that misao would go so far for revenge

Originally Posted by Kazuma77

thanks usagijen you have great summaries... i dont know why Kazuma&Ayano relationship doesnt progress the same way in anime... in anime looks like its not going anywhere...

main reason because ayano doesnt know kazuma well enough yet...not his true feelings anyway :/

[Kazuma77]

true feelings about what? i hope we wont get to the topic "kazuma past" again...

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by Kazuma77

true feelings about what? i hope we wont get to the topic "kazuma past" again...

unavoidable because his true feelings is his past and unless ayano can get past his "outer shell" into the core of his being we can say bye bye to kazuma x ayano :3

[Bondius]

Spoiler for Not exactly safe for work ^.^":

I think we need a bigger version and some detexting, onegaishimasu ^.^

[Kazuma77]

why would someone need to know the past of someone they love? as far as i know past isnt important .... if i would love someone i would no matter what his past is... isnt that the whole point of relationships?

[Deathkillz]

its not the fact that ayano doesnt love him but rather he isnt letting her into his heart atm

Originally Posted by Bondius

Spoiler for Not exactly safe for work ^.^":

I think we need a bigger version and some detexting, onegaishimasu ^.^

wow...*bleeds!*