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HayashiTakara · 2010-04-14, 17:29

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Originally Posted by Cinocard

If you count scouting as a trainer's important job, then Miguel is good. But as long as it comes to training alone...Yeah, I agree so far he sucks. I don't believe he has ever given any useful advices to his boxers in the ring.

Wait, now that I think about it, Kamogawa or any other trainers never appear to be much useful during the matches either

Well Kamogawa actually trains Ippo, it's because of the training and advices that Ippo keeps winning.

Cinocard · 2010-04-14, 17:34

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Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Well Kamogawa actually trains Ippo, it's because of the training and advices that Ippo keeps winning.

Yes, that's the thing. We never really see how other trainers train their boxers either. We only see them doing their job at the ring. Most of the time they either merely cheer the fighters on, or give advices that "I'm sure he already knows that by himself."

In reality trainers are important (during the game) in all sports, but I guess it's just hard to portray them as such in a boxing manga, compare to a soccer or basketball manga.

HayashiTakara · 2010-04-14, 17:36

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Originally Posted by Cinocard

Yes, that's the thing. We never really see how other trainers train their boxers either. We only see them doing their job at the ring. Most of the time they either merely cheer the fighters on, or give advices that "I'm sure he already knows that by himself."

In reality trainers are important (during the game) in all sports, but I guess it's just hard to portray them as such in a boxing manga, compare to a soccer or basketball manga.

Well, we kinda see some kind of training, but it's not as strict and hands on as Kamogawa. Well except for Miata's dad.

Miguel is a sham, he can find a good boxer but he's failed to train the two that we've seen. Miguel is more like a talent agent than a couch/trainer.

AnimeFangirl · 2010-04-14, 20:11

Yeah, we've seen him with three different boxers and he failed with all three of them. I don't know why Morikawa keeps dragging him out there to be repeatedly humiliated. Maybe he's there to make Kamogawa look good. Not necessarily in a "Stupid American Can't Do What Mighty Japanese Can" way, but in a contemporaries/rivals way.

kenjiharima · 2010-04-14, 21:39

Probably it's more of Miguel can't beat Kamogawa then and until now. Since Kamogawa has more heart, power and chin in his prime than any of the boxers in HNI will ever have, though Ippo as a main character will be his successor.

Though still those love taps Ippo gave are not that convincing....Or probably like in the Shimakiburo o r whaterever the short fish guy's name is....In that match where he landed a few soft punches in his head, then out came the "ULTIMATE PUNCH" which staggered the fish dude.

Possible Ippo has perfected the ULTIMATE PUNCH.

gonzo562 · 2010-04-20, 09:53

just watched the 891 raw on youtube. It looks like it about the fight will end in a few chapters.

woli legs are really screwed

Noe · 2010-04-20, 17:02

This match still continues...

kenjiharima · 2010-04-20, 19:28

Ippo also probably has the hardest groin there is.

That is not the way to FAP

AnimeFangirl · 2010-04-21, 05:47

Don't knock it till you've tried it, man.

Wrath88 · 2010-04-21, 19:54

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Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Ippo also probably has the hardest groin there is.

That is not the way to FAP

That's the way to prevent yourself from fapping.

CommS007 · 2010-04-22, 07:04

They should like have a DOUBLE KO in the 10th round =D

>.>

Blablabla · 2010-04-22, 11:57

Ho ho ho... Woli always talks about studying and learning but Miguel should have studied Ippo a little more... then he should have known about what the Monkey is going to meet and would have told him that what he is up to do isn't a such good idea.

Spoiler for 892:

Blood is coming.

HayashiTakara · 2010-04-22, 12:26

Just imagining a Dempsey Roll on a person who isn't use to getting hit sends shivers up my spine.

Blablabla · 2010-04-22, 14:31

And since he is in the corner, as genious as he may be he can not back off enough to pull out a counter like Vorg or Ryuhei did.

Wrath88 · 2010-04-23, 00:27

He'll attempt some serious swaying like we saw earlier, but given how that requires some use of his legs, I bet we'll see glancing blows, mixed in with 'I cannot dodge, so I must block', plus of course Ippo's trademark block-breaking punches.

~~Tsuyoshi~~ · 2010-04-23, 08:32

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Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Just imagining a Dempsey Roll on a person who isn't use to getting hit sends shivers up my spine.

There will be blood.....heads will fly.....

HayashiTakara · 2010-04-23, 08:40

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Originally Posted by Yoko Takeo

There will be blood.....heads will fly.....

Indeed, Judgement Day will literally fall on that bastard Woli, I hate him so much

~~Tsuyoshi~~ · 2010-04-23, 08:47

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Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Indeed, Judgement Day will literally fall on that bastard Woli, I hate him so much

Woli is cheap. He's like one of those bosses in a video game who spams this super cheap move all the time that you can't avoid no matter how hard you try. Think Eddy Gordo in Tekken. Cheapest. Character. Ever.

kenjiharima · 2010-04-25, 17:30

Christie and Gordo have the same moves btw. Though Eddy has lower HP and Christie as lesser damage.

But Enough Tekken talk!

I wanna see a (Kamogawa)TEKKEN-DEMPSY-ROLL in Woli's ribs.

The aching ribs will be a factor I tell you on Woli's counter attempt.

Blablabla · 2010-04-26, 07:34

Don't forget that Miyata managed to pull out a linghting Jolt counter on RBJ with despite of a completely destroyed ribcage.

2010-04-14, 20:11	Link #844
AnimeFangirl Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The dog gossips too much.	Yeah, we've seen him with three different boxers and he failed with all three of them. I don't know why Morikawa keeps dragging him out there to be repeatedly humiliated. Maybe he's there to make Kamogawa look good. Not necessarily in a "Stupid American Can't Do What Mighty Japanese Can" way, but in a contemporaries/rivals way. __________________

2010-04-14, 21:39	Link #845
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Probably it's more of Miguel can't beat Kamogawa then and until now. Since Kamogawa has more heart, power and chin in his prime than any of the boxers in HNI will ever have, though Ippo as a main character will be his successor. Though still those love taps Ippo gave are not that convincing....Or probably like in the Shimakiburo o r whaterever the short fish guy's name is....In that match where he landed a few soft punches in his head, then out came the "ULTIMATE PUNCH" which staggered the fish dude. Possible Ippo has perfected the ULTIMATE PUNCH. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

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Noe HARDCORE Fate addict™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fate's futon ofc Age: 31	This match still continues... __________________ ALL HAIL FATE T. HARLAOWN! #Feitoism @ irc.rizon.net to revere, share, and cherish Fate Testarossa Harlaown. My blog

2010-04-20, 19:28	Link #848
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Ippo also probably has the hardest groin there is. That is not the way to FAP __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2010-04-21, 05:47	Link #849
AnimeFangirl Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The dog gossips too much.	Don't knock it till you've tried it, man. __________________

2010-04-20, 09:53	Link #846
gonzo562 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007	just watched the 891 raw on youtube. It looks like it about the fight will end in a few chapters. woli legs are really screwed

2010-04-22, 07:04	Link #851
CommS007 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Benelux (Mostly Belgium and Netherlands) Age: 42	They should like have a DOUBLE KO in the 10th round =D >.>

2010-04-22, 11:57	Link #852
Blablabla Zetsubo-sensei daaaaaa !! Join Date: Dec 2005	Ho ho ho... Woli always talks about studying and learning but Miguel should have studied Ippo a little more... then he should have known about what the Monkey is going to meet and would have told him that what he is up to do isn't a such good idea. Spoiler for 892: I mean... retreating in the corner thinking that it is your best spot against someone who used to knocked out so many people with a technique named "dempsey roll". Blood is coming.

2010-04-22, 12:26	Link #853
HayashiTakara Chicken or Beef? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 41	Just imagining a Dempsey Roll on a person who isn't use to getting hit sends shivers up my spine. __________________ http://htakara82.deviantart.com/

2010-04-22, 14:31	Link #854
Blablabla Zetsubo-sensei daaaaaa !! Join Date: Dec 2005	And since he is in the corner, as genious as he may be he can not back off enough to pull out a counter like Vorg or Ryuhei did.

2010-04-23, 00:27	Link #855
Wrath88 Kissing... Join Date: Dec 2005	He'll attempt some serious swaying like we saw earlier, but given how that requires some use of his legs, I bet we'll see glancing blows, mixed in with 'I cannot dodge, so I must block', plus of course Ippo's trademark block-breaking punches. __________________ Okairii, Nerine-chan

2010-04-25, 17:30	Link #859
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Christie and Gordo have the same moves btw. Though Eddy has lower HP and Christie as lesser damage. But Enough Tekken talk! I wanna see a (Kamogawa)TEKKEN-DEMPSY-ROLL in Woli's ribs. The aching ribs will be a factor I tell you on Woli's counter attempt. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2010-04-26, 07:34	Link #860
Blablabla Zetsubo-sensei daaaaaa !! Join Date: Dec 2005	Don't forget that Miyata managed to pull out a linghting Jolt counter on RBJ with despite of a completely destroyed ribcage.