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***Pellissier*** · 2008-01-10, 03:11

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Tormenk · 2008-01-10, 07:37

Pheles arrival can only mean the advent of some sorely needed action that's been missing from the show for quite some time now. That aside, I'm quite looking forward to her introduction since her awesome entrance in ep 12.

Keroko · 2008-01-10, 08:16

I hope we get more of the awsome Pheles soundtrack. :3

EXEs · 2008-01-10, 08:21

Yes, let the asskickin' (hopefully) begin!

Sinestra · 2008-01-10, 11:31

Exactly what i have been waiting for hopefully its time to "Buckle up" for some serious distardly destruction with a spice of chaos.

Ellis · 2008-01-10, 11:49

Besides, they are all there at the same time...
'Hope we'll hear more of Pheles soundtrack too!

A storm is coming !

ThoHell · 2008-01-10, 15:25

Hmm, not sure how to express this episode. Guess I was hoping for more..oh well was still interesting.

piku · 2008-01-10, 15:36

very good episode. battle scene, especially the one shana gave the last two attack to pheles, the motion just as smooth as movie quality. drawing style was above average, and new BGM is so good that make me cannot wait for the OST release.

not satisfy to some deletion and changes of script compare with novels. margery vs wilhelmina should be a intense battle, and wilhelmina

Spoiler for in novel 12:

that she needn't ask why pheles has to search for reiji maigo...

this episode complete the story on 1/2 of novel 12. so fast... telling the truth i prefer JC Staff put more time on battle scene and make better description on story and characters.

last but not least, wilhelmina's action to pheles just show that they are yuri...

Mentar · 2008-01-10, 16:40

Good lord.

First half was utter madness. But done in an extremely good way. Excellent ep. Now on to the joyful task to somehow compress raws of 700+ megs size to normal releases >_<

Kyuusaisha · 2008-01-10, 17:14

Ok, so the fix really felt nice considering I hadn't got one in 3 weeks. From the preview, with me not being able to read the novels I was wondering if it was going to go back to fillers again. Would love it if someone could clarify that for me.

Tokkan · 2008-01-10, 17:33

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Originally Posted by Kyuusaisha

Ok, so the fix really felt nice considering I hadn't got one in 3 weeks. From the preview, with me not being able to read the novels I was wondering if it was going to go back to fillers again. Would love it if someone could clarify that for me.

HELO thar. Following episodes are material not in novels: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7. Everything else is not filler, except eps 8 and 9 which are from a sidestory collection.

serenade_beta · 2008-01-10, 21:52

Spoiler for ep13:

cnnydz · 2008-01-11, 05:29

whoa they went through half of vol12, so i guess it will be more intense next week then. maybe after 12 eps of relative quietness JC staff decided to go all out. however i don't know if they got enough material to make it a 20eps season, maybe an anime original ending?

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Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for ep13:

Spoiler for sabrac:

Kinny Riddle · 2008-01-11, 09:23

Three weeks is a long time to bear for such a cliffhanger.

In the flashback, just after Pheles stuffed Johann into the Reiji Maigo, and just before it makes its random teleportation, you can just catch a glimpse of a thread of Unrestricted Spell entering the Reiji Maigo for a second. That would probably be where "Silver" came from.

The reason Rammy refused to reveal where Silver was became clear, he was trying to protect Yuji all along when Margey was, and still is, quote emotionally unstable.

I'm now heads over hells on Inoue Marina voicing Pheles.

She sounded much younger than I imagined her to be, which can be a good thing.

Poor Wilhelmina, her unrequited love on Merihim was such a trauma for her now she's hitting on girls exclusively. Had Shana stopped aging at 16/17 rather than 11/12 years old when she became a Flame Haze, Wilhemina might even hit on her as well.

Finally seeing "Baka-te" (a nickname some used to distinguish between Fumina and the less klutzy Hecate) on the move at last.

Reckoner · 2008-01-11, 11:06

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Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

Had Shana stopped aging at 16/17 rather than 11/12 years old when she became a Flame Haze, Wilhemina might even hit on her as well.

Shana is 12? I thought she was like 15/16, meh.

Deathkillz · 2008-01-11, 13:09

Holy...what just happened O.O

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X10A_Freedom · 2008-01-11, 15:03

Hmmmm...

Spoiler:

Overall, lots of explosions and stuff but I feel rather empty because this was closer to mindless action rather than an epic, emotional event. 7/10.

teachopvutru · 2008-01-11, 16:09

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Originally Posted by X10A_Freedom

Hmmmm...

Spoiler:

Overall, lots of explosions and stuff but I feel rather empty because this was closer to mindless action rather than an epic, emotional event. 7/10.

I thought all the Yuri stuff about Wilhemnia were just jokes...

Haven't watch episode 13 yet so can't comment on it.

masama · 2008-01-11, 17:46

the fights didn't last very long now did it? I was looking forward to Pheles kicking ass but she seems a bit weak, probably she's still recovering. And that red dress doesn't suit shana in her flame haze mode! too red!

So basically Yuji is the tomogara no moribito?

Good episode, certainly worth the wait.

Illumina · 2008-01-11, 18:15

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Originally Posted by masama

the fights didn't last very long now did it? I was looking forward to Pheles kicking ass but she seems a bit weak, probably she's still recovering.

Spoiler for ep13:

View Poll Results: Shakugan no Shana II - Episode 13 Rating
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2008-01-10, 07:37	Link #2
Tormenk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gaf's Room	Pheles arrival can only mean the advent of some sorely needed action that's been missing from the show for quite some time now. That aside, I'm quite looking forward to her introduction since her awesome entrance in ep 12. __________________ "Are you afraid of change? Or are you afraid to change?" "Wheel turns, river flows and life goes on." "Best way to kill a man, is to leave him alone." "Until you come, until we close our eyes."

2008-01-10, 11:31	Link #5
Sinestra ション (^^) IT Support Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Freedom Guard Ship Amaterasu	Exactly what i have been waiting for hopefully its time to "Buckle up" for some serious distardly destruction with a spice of chaos. __________________

2008-01-10, 15:36	Link #8
piku Wilhelmina Carmel my love Join Date: Jul 2006	very good episode. battle scene, especially the one shana gave the last two attack to pheles, the motion just as smooth as movie quality. drawing style was above average, and new BGM is so good that make me cannot wait for the OST release. not satisfy to some deletion and changes of script compare with novels. margery vs wilhelmina should be a intense battle, and wilhelmina Spoiler for in novel 12: has seen the complete picture of how Johan was seal in reiji maigo, and Sabrac insert some Jizaihou in it before its random transfer that she needn't ask why pheles has to search for reiji maigo... this episode complete the story on 1/2 of novel 12. so fast... telling the truth i prefer JC Staff put more time on battle scene and make better description on story and characters. last but not least, wilhelmina's action to pheles just show that they are yuri... __________________

2008-01-10, 21:52	Link #12
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for ep13: Ah, it's finally back! Though I never went into withdrawal though The first half - HOLY SH*!! THAT WAS SO CRAZY!! GAHH! WOAH!! The people being skewered by glass, smashed by debris, the burning, Ogata turning into some broken lump of meat, Tanaka's scream of utter despair, Yuuji's screaming in general, the action!!!!!!!!!!!! Most disturbing and most action-packed thing I've seen ever since this season started, and maybe even more than the whole season packed together! Lots of going crazy from Pheles and Margery, to the point they couldn't see their surroundings! Yuuji sure is lucky to have Azure with her. Satou seemed to have guessed Yuuji was the one that casted the silver Seal, sharp! sympathizes with Tanaka* Satou and Tanaka were able to calm Margery down... Whew... Anyways... Wow. Very disturbing, very scary, and sent my tension skyrocketing to almost max levels! A new, but dead(?) Denizen called Sabrac... So he was the one to finish off Johann and forced Pheles to place Johann in the Midnight Lost Child. Though it seems Sabrac himself inserted something inside it as well... Maybe the reason why Silver appears in Yuuji's seal? As expected, Kazumi felt Yuuji moving farther from her... Was Pheles talking to Fumina?... Obviously, Fumina's not normal... Even I need to admit it now... sob Next time - Lots more Kazumi than this episode, more on Johann and Pheles; Eternal Lovers 10/10 __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2008-01-10, 08:16	Link #3
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	I hope we get more of the awsome Pheles soundtrack. :3

2008-01-10, 08:21	Link #4
EXEs Hallelujah... Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hong Kong Age: 32	Yes, let the asskickin' (hopefully) begin!

2008-01-10, 11:49	Link #6
Ellis Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	Besides, they are all there at the same time... 'Hope we'll hear more of Pheles soundtrack too! A storm is coming !

2008-01-10, 15:25	Link #7
ThoHell Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	Hmm, not sure how to express this episode. Guess I was hoping for more..oh well was still interesting.

2008-01-10, 16:40	Link #9
Mentar Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hamburg Age: 54	Good lord. First half was utter madness. But done in an extremely good way. Excellent ep. Now on to the joyful task to somehow compress raws of 700+ megs size to normal releases >_<

2008-01-10, 17:14	Link #10
Kyuusaisha Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Age: 32	Ok, so the fix really felt nice considering I hadn't got one in 3 weeks. From the preview, with me not being able to read the novels I was wondering if it was going to go back to fillers again. Would love it if someone could clarify that for me.

2008-01-11, 09:23	Link #14
Kinny Riddle Gone for Good Join Date: Apr 2004	Three weeks is a long time to bear for such a cliffhanger. In the flashback, just after Pheles stuffed Johann into the Reiji Maigo, and just before it makes its random teleportation, you can just catch a glimpse of a thread of Unrestricted Spell entering the Reiji Maigo for a second. That would probably be where "Silver" came from. The reason Rammy refused to reveal where Silver was became clear, he was trying to protect Yuji all along when Margey was, and still is, quote emotionally unstable. I'm now heads over hells on Inoue Marina voicing Pheles. She sounded much younger than I imagined her to be, which can be a good thing. Poor Wilhelmina, her unrequited love on Merihim was such a trauma for her now she's hitting on girls exclusively. Had Shana stopped aging at 16/17 rather than 11/12 years old when she became a Flame Haze, Wilhemina might even hit on her as well. Finally seeing "Baka-te" (a nickname some used to distinguish between Fumina and the less klutzy Hecate) on the move at last.

2008-01-11, 13:09	Link #16
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	Holy...what just happened O.O Spoiler: OGATA CHAN!!!...shi- that was a painful sight to see. tanaka had every right to open his eyes wide in such situations... Margery completely went berserk...it's scary...she turned into a real monster who wouldn't listen to anyone or anything. That rampage was just mad. Pheles on the other hand was rather quick to calm...I thought she would have wrecked the place a bit more - or not at least be as "sane" as to talk to Wilhemina like that (err...I must have missed this but what is her relation to Wilhemina?). Awesome ep...but I get the feelings of deja vu - god help it that the next ep won't return to normal >_< __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2008-01-11, 15:03	Link #17
X10A_Freedom Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Neo-Venezia...I wish!	Hmmmm... Spoiler: A battle which we've been waiting forever and it's a shocker in term of blood and gore! I did find the battle a bit boring though, maybe because it was concluded so quickly. This made it all feel rather...cheesy. This was supposed to be highly emotional but aside from Tanaka, it felt emotionally dry on the part of Pheles and Marjory. Possibly due to the lack of airtime of the battle. Yuri? I'm not willing to jump into conclusions at the moment. Seemed like an old friendship thing so far. Overall, lots of explosions and stuff but I feel rather empty because this was closer to mindless action rather than an epic, emotional event. 7/10.

2008-01-11, 17:46	Link #19
masama use the fōrks ~ Join Date: Jan 2007	the fights didn't last very long now did it? I was looking forward to Pheles kicking ass but she seems a bit weak, probably she's still recovering. And that red dress doesn't suit shana in her flame haze mode! too red! So basically Yuji is the tomogara no moribito? Good episode, certainly worth the wait.