2009-11-09, 16:24 | Link #181 |
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I think you are underestimating Buggy. Even though he is mainly portrayed as a laughable character with alternating fortunes and unfortunes, being the ex-nakama to Shanks, and being a member of the Roger's crew, when he was still young, he should have enough strength, that may easily go above Usopp's or Nami's.
Buggy's main weakness is that he is not using his head much. He might have developed some techniques in the past but being in east blue so long, he might have abandoned them because of not needing them anymore. One interesting development regarding his character would be having one of the strongest hakis among all the characters (it would be surprising for him to have lasted this long, if he hadn't had the will to survive). Since he is closer to the idiot-side, not using it or not trying to improve it is something you would expect from him. If this fight is also meant to have him show some kind of development, maybe we will get to see some of it. |
2009-11-09, 17:29 | Link #182 | |
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Can't be helped, what with all the work he put towards movie 10/volume 0 and the fact that he recently became a father. It's best if he has as much rest as he can so he doesn't self-destruct from his workload...... ....And hey, at least he's not NEARLY as bad with breaks as Togashi, right? |
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2009-11-09, 17:39 | Link #183 | |
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It would be murder to fans like me but if he would announce having 3-6 months hiatus it would be perfectly fine too. Seriosly if you think amount of stuff he has been doing in these couple of years I think he earns some rest. I really would hate if he would get burnout or something, Oda says he loves making One Piece and its his passion but I hope he wont overwork himself. Well unlike Togashi who has amazing series but he dont have passion to it... |
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2009-11-09, 18:25 | Link #184 | |
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I think the reason Buggy is shown in recent chapters is so that he can remain in the story. The Strawhats are about to make it into the new world, and if we suddenly see Buggy show up in the new world as well, we will need an explanation for how someone as weak as Buggy made it that far. The person that Buggy hates more than anyone is Shanks, so it's a longshot that he would ever join a crew represented by Shanks' strawhat. |
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2009-11-09, 19:15 | Link #185 | |
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If Smoker was to actually try to fight back against Hancock, I can assure you that things would go down differently. Don't get me wrong here. I'm also of the opinion that Hancock is more powerful than Smoker (not just her, but any warlord for that matter), but not to the extent of making him look like child's play. He's a formidable opponent for anyone.
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2009-11-09, 20:27 | Link #186 | |
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So yeah I am pretty sure that Hancock is stronger than Luffy at this point and with that said... way to strong to join strawhats. |
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2009-11-09, 21:27 | Link #187 | |
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Don't go saying any warlord can beat smoker when the only other one we know can hit a logia user is jinbei and he was near water . Even if smoker wanted to fight back vs boa he would have to change his whole fighting style . Until i see some other warlord able to do haki or hit a logia user i have smoker beating them . Last edited by andy; 2009-11-09 at 21:41. |
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This has already been addressed. Read my first reply in this post.
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2009-11-10, 07:33 | Link #191 | |
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Boa has full control of her haki , that was a miss translation , don't read your manga from a certain site. Were taking about a 1on 1 fights . I forgot about BB yes he could beat smoker . Also i would don control smoker he just make his body smoke. How would kuma hit smoker ,he just turn into smoke again . How would moria get smoker's shadow when he can't even touch him. Of course luffy is going to have a bigger contribution than boa in the war , i never said otherwise. Boa was there because of luffy she save him and give him ace key i don't see her doing anything else unless luffy get in trouble again and no one around. Not only boa has full control of haki over luffy .She also has her DF which can turn anything into stone after a hit . Last edited by andy; 2009-11-10 at 07:58. |
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2009-11-10, 08:17 | Link #192 |
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Technically, whether the body is tangible or not, it will still cast a shadow on the floor. I'll concede though that it would be very difficult for Moria to steal the shadow while worrying about the logia user in elemental form trying to attack him. Then again, even though Moria can't hit Smoker at all, Smoker can't do anything to doppleman either.
Kuma can literally deflect anything, and that includes smoke. He might not be able to hurt Smoker, but he can always repel him away if he tries to get close. Smoker would also have a very hard time hitting Kuma since he can basically warp himself.
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2009-11-10, 08:27 | Link #193 | |
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It is certainly true, that Smokers focus was on Luffy. However, Smoker is an experienced, level headed fighter. And he is well aware that he is in the middle of a big war, as well as Luffy having a lot of allies on this battle field. Given these facts, i don't really expect Smoker to focus so much on Luffy, that he doesn't notice his surroundings anymore (especially since Luffy did not put up any resistence, it was not very a "conciousness-demanding" encouter for smoker). Even more with the way Oda portayed this war, you always have to be on guard, cause someone might just stab you into your back if you aren't. Even more so on their second encounter, when Boa destroyed Smokers jutte, he was aware that there was a high level opponent trying to help Luffy. A fighter as (fighting)intelligent as Smoker should not be caught that much off guard in such a large-scale war. So i think it may not be childs play for Boa, but the difference in power/skill is quite formidable. |
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2009-11-10, 08:46 | Link #194 | |
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Idk. How do strings/puppet powers control anything?
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2009-11-10, 09:19 | Link #195 | |
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And still the point is that Hancock is way to strong to be in the strawhats. And even if Luffy defeated Marigold and Sandersonia i dont think Hancock its on the same level as those two. In fact... I bet she is way stronger than both. We've seen what regular Haki can do. We've seen normal arrows filled with regular Haki breaking stones... So can you imagine what could mean being kicked by King's Haki wich i think its safe by now to assume that is way stronger than regular Haki. And even if the Merrow Merrow does not affect Luffy we've seen her use her DF to hit Luffy in Amazon Lilly with that Pistol Kiss or something... (Chapter 518) |
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2009-11-10, 12:55 | Link #196 | ||
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Anyway, although anything is possible, I would be surprised to see any real development in Buggy's strength. Which is kind of a shame, since his role as comic relief thing is getting old. And there's no way he'll join Luffy's crew. He has no purpose, he's weak, and most of all why the hell would he want to join them, just like the Strawhats wouldn't want him to join either. About Boa joining the crew, she's stronger than Luffy in my book and has other obligations so I don't think that's going to happen either. I'd be happy to just see her interact with the crew at some point, should be very amusing. |
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2009-11-10, 16:29 | Link #198 | |
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Yet again i just said that from the list of possibilities (Perona, Crocodile, Buggy, Bon Clay, Boa, etc) he and maybe Bon Clay (even though i still find his fighting hability too similar too Sanji's) would be the ones i can see in the strawhats... Even though i dont want to see Buggy in the crew since i hate that clown XD. Yes he did... He said a former enemy would join... at least that was mentioned by someone in this forum... And since we have no chapter this week to talk about its a good topic anyway XD Last edited by ShadowKiko; 2009-11-10 at 20:03. |
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2009-11-10, 16:51 | Link #199 | |
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2009-11-10, 19:21 | Link #200 | |
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One of the most interesting things to see will be how he'll interact with Jimbei. They're bound to have had some history in the past. Perhaps we'll discover more about the "pirates of the sun" founded by Fisher Tiger, Arlong's tyranny, and why Jimbei let Arlong loose in exchange for becoming one of the warlords.
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