2012-02-29, 11:25 | Link #4642 |
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The 40 might be one of the most useless measurements at the Combine. It says nothing about most players' speed. It might be useful, sort of, for running backs, but how often are they on breakaway sprints? Receivers on a fly need long-distance sprinting, but even the DBs shouldn't need it if they're playing their position correctly.
It is absolutely meaningless for linemen, linebackers, quarterbacks, and kickers. The 20 shuttle and the 3-cone are far, far more relevant to the game itself. And even then, this is all without pads. Some run better with pads than others. Like Drob says above, combine speed and game speed are way differently, usually.
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2012-02-29, 15:46 | Link #4643 |
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Really seemed to me that the Combine bolstered the mental and media credentials of the top tier for the incoming draft. Luck, Griffin and Kalil were definitely impressing those who spoke to them. Considering Luck and Griffin didn't throw and a good deal of others didn't do the full workout, I daresay their college pro days are the ones where they will do more physical work. Combine seemed more geared for people to show they could talk the talk and connect with teams likely to draft them.
On another front, there seems to be talk building Kansas City wants to get hold of Manning. I can't see that happening.
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2012-02-29, 23:14 | Link #4647 |
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Yeah well, good player, but it was time. I think Ward should just retire. He might still want to play, but once he goes into retirement he'll have boatloads of other things to do. And he's already accomplished everything you could ask for in an NFL career practically. I don't think he's a Hall of Famer, but I'd put in in the group close to it.
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New Orleans Saints are screwed. Great way to kick off the offseason.
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2012-03-02, 17:10 | Link #4650 |
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The Saints will probably be in worse hands with the amount of emphasis on player safety concerns the last few years. The piling up of lawsuits by former players doesn't help either. And it was a thing regarding money, which never sounds good. I think the Saints are going to get punished far worse like Adam Schefter predicts. The thing that is kind of funny is that his really didn't help that defense at all. What the Saints need is better players, not money bribing scams to build confidence.
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2012-03-02, 20:50 | Link #4653 | |
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The AINTS are in deep doo doo plain and simple. #BOUNTYGATE.
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2012-03-02, 21:03 | Link #4654 | |
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Kind of ironic though Wing since you always ragged on the pats for their no-nos and now this comes to light with the Saints. I'll just go with what I brought up in my disscusion with you on spygate. Most teams do some dirty handed thing (whether slight or huge) to win it just doesn't usually get found out.
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2012-03-02, 21:29 | Link #4656 | |
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Nawlins has thoroughly been stomped on.
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2012-03-02, 23:29 | Link #4657 | |
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It pales in comparison to guys in the locker room having unofficial "bounties" on big hits...have any of you played football? In high school we'd get helmet stickers and candy snacks for the best decleaters and hits of the week...Many of my best friends at LSU who played on the football team routinely talked about how big hitters got prizes and used to ride the Golf cart on the practice field for rewards...This is the nature of the Defensive Coaching, and to incentivize players for making violent plays in a violent sport... In the NFL it's money as opposed to gobstoppers, and I've never seen one Saints player do anything as overwrought as players like Cortland Finnegan and Bernard Pollard do almost every game trying to hurt players...Do I even have to mention James Harrison? Or how about Rodney Harrison's hayday as the king of late hits and filthy play... You see one Saints player ever do what Dom Suh does? No you don't... Sure the saints will be penalized because of the twitteriffic age we live in where every incident gets blown up into the size of a smudge on the Hubblescopes' bubble-lens, and i won't deny that Gregg Williams is certainly blowhard enough to talk about something that's basically supposed to be seen as player thing (The 2009 Playoff ramblings he had on this about Warner and Favre probably kickstarted this whole thing) ... So when the Godell hammer goes down, it won't be because of the act, it'll be because of the twitterriffic cloud the act will spawn...Add to that the current waters of the NFL following the lock-out and impending lawsuits and myriad of other injury based litigation the league is seeing and we'll get a PC PETA-level over-the-top fine or something, but let's pull back into reality before we start suggesting that many players who play defense in the NFL don't try to kill their opponents within the whistle...Saints players certainly aren't as good as doing it as the guys I've mentioned above...Nor (which is even funnier) do they seem to have any of the visual evidence the leagues more brazen offenders put on tape every week)...But perhaps Bill Belichick's tapeguy is waiting to reveal that bit of evidence that shames the Saints out of their shot at a dynasty...
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2012-03-03, 11:03 | Link #4659 |
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Even though that McCray hit on Warner is going to be one of the highlights news outlets point to as example of the bounty system, I don't have a problem with it. Any defensive would love to get a shot at a QB on an interception or fumble return.
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2012-03-03, 12:56 | Link #4660 | |
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The problem plain and simple is players getting non-contract bonuses for big plays and for opposing players getting injured, which can border on the level of malicious intent if someone wants an extra $1,000 that day.
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