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kj1980 · 2007-09-13, 09:12

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ayukanon45 · 2007-09-13, 14:58

just saw it, ammazing episode, be ready for a wtf? unless, you alreadyt no. WTF?

MarthX · 2007-09-13, 15:12

Finished watching it on Nico.

Spoiler:

ayukanon45 · 2007-09-13, 15:17

yep, they ARE releasing a second soundtrack

Shiroth · 2007-09-13, 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayukanon45

yep, they ARE releasing a second soundtrack

You mean third.

And please, don't tell me this is if the first time someone has noticed new BGM material. New BGM material has been appearing since the second episode of Kai.

MarthX · 2007-09-13, 15:35

I know there's been new tracks, but I don't recall hearing the ones in this episode before. Or maybe my excitement is interfering with my brain.

ayukanon45 · 2007-09-13, 15:36

yueah, i meant 3rd, but yes, its been very obvious since then. I just dont want to wait for the new ost!!! btw, does this end the arc, i wasnt really paying much attention to detail, and i dont want to rewatch it.

MarthX · 2007-09-13, 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayukanon45

yueah, i meant 3rd, but yes, its been very obvious since then. I just dont want to wait for the new ost!!! btw, does this end the arc, i wasnt really paying much attention to detail, and i dont want to rewatch it.

According to the episode titles, Minagoroshi ends

Spoiler:

**Klashikari** · 2007-09-13, 15:40

let's see :

Spoiler for PART A:

Teppei is interrupted by the phone call and isn't exactly thrilled by this, leaving satoko severely beaten (she has bruises everywhere, her face included. in fact, her mouth is slightly bleeding)

The call is of course one of the consultant of the child agency, having some questions for Satoko. Teppei tries to make some excuses, but the consultant is persistent enough, and he goes looking for his niece
Teppei tells to satoko she has a phone call, however, he "subtely" threaten her as he is her family, and satoshi's room might be in bad shape if she screws around. He also press her shoulders with forces. Satoko understands and pick the call

Soon, Keiichi picks the phone instead and tells her that they succeed to change everyone's mind, even the Sonozaki. Keiichi is very excited by this. Then Rika picks the phone, assuring her the village no longer bully her. Satoko doesn't believe that, and Rika (in her kuro mode) admits she didn't believe it either, but Keiichi proved he could beat fate. Teppei is still behind her and strengthen his grip on her shoulders. Rika talks about Satoshi and the fact he did "that" for her, and it shouldn't be a trial. Teppei doesn't understand quite much and begins to glare at Satoko. She begins to panick a bit, and the consultant takes back the call, asking once again if Teppei is abusing her. Satoko finally asks them to be saved, Teppei instantly reacts, yelling she betrayed her.
Satoko is "back to normal", and yell at teppei to go away, that this house is hers and satoshi's, and she hates her. As she is yelling him to go away once more, Teppei slaps her, yelling "what's that stare huh?" He grabs her head, slams her down and is about to punch her, but he is interrupted by some men who knock on the door. This is the police. Teppei opens the door and is instantly abducted by the men. Keiichi is worried, but Ooishi assures him everything is okay and he contacted his men with his talki walkie.

Teppei is taken into custody. Satoko is with a policewoman and everyone is there. Satoko burst in tears, rushes towards rika and both hug each other. And then, the watanagashi festival...

Everyone rush immediately to the tayakoyaki stand, while Rika and Hanyuu talk a bit. Both notice the Festival is even lively than usual, and Rika is simply happy, and joins the rest. However, Hanyuu stays behind, reverting back her sad expression.

In the night of watanagashi, Rika talks once again with Tomitake and Takano. Tommy is still wondering why they would be killed. takano is amused and says it is probably the curse. Rika foretells them that Tomitake will scratches his throat to death (hemorraghe shock) while Takano will be found somewhere in the mountain, burned in a can. Tomitake is wondering if it is the "LEVEL 5" for his case, but assures her he will be fine. Takano wonders if Rika made a dream. Takano says everything will be alright and Tomitake will protect her. Rika then wonders who will protect her if both of them are killed. Takano says the yamainu will keep their job on, but Rika isn't exactly persuaded. Both tell her that Irie is still there.
They really don't take Rika seriously and she leaves them. Despite they don't buy what she said, Rika won't give up

Rika then explains the facts to Ooishi, who wonder where she knew about this. Ooishi understands it might be the fifth year of the curse (Tomitake is killed, Takano is missing). Ooishi understood her emssage and will do the necessary. Rika is relieved, and tells him no one aside him believed her, and Ooishi then says it is his job so.

Rika is in front of the shrine with everyone else, and tells them that Tomitake and Takano will be killed tonight. Keiichi is alright with this, and suggest them to look for Tomitake, first.

If you don't want to be spoiled any further, DON'T READ the PART B. it is HUGE.

Spoiler for PART B:

Everyone escorted the couple, and Tomitake assures them it is okay now. Rika is still worried about them. The groups greet each other good night, and leave. Rika is still really worried.

Tomitake is packing his bag, and asks Takano to tell Irie about Rika, which might go paranoid. If something happens to her, it might be bad for them. Takano suddenly puts her hand on his, and tells him she loves him.
They don't have much time, and Takano mentions about her dream.
Takano wants to make the curse of Oyashiro-sama as a reality.

Tomitake says "no way...", but Takano confirms his doubt. Tomitake stands up immediately, and takano was expecting this reaction.

Takano says it is part of her job and opens the door, and the yamainu infiltrates immediately the room. Takano mentions they were sent by Tokyo to "diffuse the bomb", but they can also make it explodes.
Tomitake is completely shocked and doesn't want to believe this. He knows what would happen if they do this, and Takano confirms this.

Tomitake tries to convince Okonogi (the leader of the Yamainu?) but takano is amused, since the Yamainu is HER troop.
The Yamainu then restrain Tomitake on the ground.

Takano is delighted, but asks once again if Tomitake would follow her. Tomitake doesn't want to be a comrade/accomplice. Takano then shows a syringe. Takano begins some delirium speech, while Tomitake is helpless, knowing his incoming demise.

Tomitake is put in the chest of Takano's car. She then gives to the Yamainu their orders. Takano drives the car, but notices a police car, which doesn't help her plan. She keeps going.
She stops someplace ahead, and unload Tomitake, and his bike.
She then says once Tomitake will wake up, he will goes to LEVEL 5 and die. It will fit the Curse.

Takano is wearing a black suit, and drink a tea in a operation truck. One of her men reports something about Tomitake's corpse. Takano doesn't mind, and asks to go on on their plan, but the Soldier is a bit hesitant. Takano is in her delirium.
The solider understands, and is about to leave. But takano stops him and asks how was her cover for her "death", and he explains that they burned a body and put in a dram can around the mountain.

The police found tomitake's corpse. Kuma is reporting the details, while ooishi conclude it is the fifth time. Irie is present and doesn't believe it, and doesn't WANT to believe it.
Takano is awaiting the massacre...

Complains : the tracks were a bit off, especially for the first part, while the later part sound too recycled.
Also, the transition between satoko's conclusion and the festival is a bit fast, but it isn't too bad.

Praises: The big impact of Satoko's case (TAKE THAT TEPPEI). Rika's fight, despite "everything look normal". She doesn't take things easy.

Aside of this, they really wanted to put a slow but sinister mood of the change of the event.
Rika did everything she could do, and it is obviously a dead end...

An excellent episode, and frankly, next week will be a killer.

Deathkillz · 2007-09-13, 15:50

oki wtf just happened

Spoiler:

LuckyCat · 2007-09-13, 16:18

Yeah this episode had a really nice transition with the victory for Satoko followed by the unfolding murder plan.

I may need to watch it again!

Sterling01 · 2007-09-13, 16:55

Takano is falling off the deep end

I mean she looks so tired

RAW's out

harukamae · 2007-09-13, 18:20

auauau

Spoiler for episode 11:

MarthX · 2007-09-13, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterling01

Takano is falling off the deep end

I mean she looks so tired

RAW's out

That's why people call her Droopy.

Shiroth · 2007-09-13, 18:54

Spoiler for Episode 11:

Yet again the musical score for this series is played at the correct times, just like the first series. Kawai has always created such tracks that let out the right level of emotion for that scene, and they're used perfectly in this show.

Rias · 2007-09-13, 19:00

Hmm...well, another great epsiode, besides the minor points that went on too fast, the epsiode is nicely done.

We are now finally into the anti-climax of the story, and the real meaning of Minagoroshi-hen will soon take place. Some parts still went too fast, namely Satoko's rescue, and espically Tomi's struggle.

Spoiler:

It's good to see Dr.Iri at the end, but he really could've talked more. It's good that they will spend more time at this anti-climax portion, since the coming epsiodes will be just as epic than what happened earlier in the arc.

Sterling01 · 2007-09-13, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiroth

Spoiler for Episode 11:

Yet again the musical score for this series is played at the correct times, just like the first series. Kawai has always created such tracks that let out the right level of emotion for that scene, and they're used perfectly in this show.

I still don't understand why they didn't use the game's music

Shiroth · 2007-09-13, 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterling01

I still don't understand why they didn't use the game's music

Because they didn't choose to use it, plain and simple.

It would have been nice for the game music (like what Kyoani do with there Key adaptations), though i'm perfectly happy with a new Kawai score. I love his work, especially when it fits perfectly in Higurashi.

**Klashikari** · 2007-09-13, 19:56

Well... it is hard to say.
Frankly, i don't mind Kawai's new tracks (which are much more effective than those used for S1), but some time, it is just over used or too dull.
I'm especially referring to Satoko's outburst and hug.... to be quite blunt, the tracks were like... well a dull drama for some powerful moments. These are the only scenes i would complain in this ep for the BGM.

*phew*
well then, here is the truckload of screencaps. Again, you will be spoiled if you take a peek at these, i leave that to your own discretion.
Episode 11 : Screencaps

MrZombie · 2007-09-13, 20:21

I do have to agree about the music. It's no where as powerful as those found in the games, hell even Matsuri's soundtrack is much, much better.

And really, I agree what the hell

Spoiler for epsiode 11:

But still, some very nice moments in this episode. I still gave it a ten despite the failings this episode had. I enjoyed the hell out of it.

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2007-09-13, 15:12	Link #3
MarthX Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 39	Finished watching it on Nico. Spoiler: Really great episode but I felt they tossed away the Satoko rescue too soon. Seems like they were in a hurry to get to the festival. I think I noticed some new music tracks too

2007-09-13, 15:40	Link #9
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	let's see : Spoiler for PART A: Teppei is interrupted by the phone call and isn't exactly thrilled by this, leaving satoko severely beaten (she has bruises everywhere, her face included. in fact, her mouth is slightly bleeding) The call is of course one of the consultant of the child agency, having some questions for Satoko. Teppei tries to make some excuses, but the consultant is persistent enough, and he goes looking for his niece Teppei tells to satoko she has a phone call, however, he "subtely" threaten her as he is her family, and satoshi's room might be in bad shape if she screws around. He also press her shoulders with forces. Satoko understands and pick the call Soon, Keiichi picks the phone instead and tells her that they succeed to change everyone's mind, even the Sonozaki. Keiichi is very excited by this. Then Rika picks the phone, assuring her the village no longer bully her. Satoko doesn't believe that, and Rika (in her kuro mode) admits she didn't believe it either, but Keiichi proved he could beat fate. Teppei is still behind her and strengthen his grip on her shoulders. Rika talks about Satoshi and the fact he did "that" for her, and it shouldn't be a trial. Teppei doesn't understand quite much and begins to glare at Satoko. She begins to panick a bit, and the consultant takes back the call, asking once again if Teppei is abusing her. Satoko finally asks them to be saved, Teppei instantly reacts, yelling she betrayed her. Satoko is "back to normal", and yell at teppei to go away, that this house is hers and satoshi's, and she hates her. As she is yelling him to go away once more, Teppei slaps her, yelling "what's that stare huh?" He grabs her head, slams her down and is about to punch her, but he is interrupted by some men who knock on the door. This is the police. Teppei opens the door and is instantly abducted by the men. Keiichi is worried, but Ooishi assures him everything is okay and he contacted his men with his talki walkie. Teppei is taken into custody. Satoko is with a policewoman and everyone is there. Satoko burst in tears, rushes towards rika and both hug each other. And then, the watanagashi festival... Everyone rush immediately to the tayakoyaki stand, while Rika and Hanyuu talk a bit. Both notice the Festival is even lively than usual, and Rika is simply happy, and joins the rest. However, Hanyuu stays behind, reverting back her sad expression. In the night of watanagashi, Rika talks once again with Tomitake and Takano. Tommy is still wondering why they would be killed. takano is amused and says it is probably the curse. Rika foretells them that Tomitake will scratches his throat to death (hemorraghe shock) while Takano will be found somewhere in the mountain, burned in a can. Tomitake is wondering if it is the "LEVEL 5" for his case, but assures her he will be fine. Takano wonders if Rika made a dream. Takano says everything will be alright and Tomitake will protect her. Rika then wonders who will protect her if both of them are killed. Takano says the yamainu will keep their job on, but Rika isn't exactly persuaded. Both tell her that Irie is still there. They really don't take Rika seriously and she leaves them. Despite they don't buy what she said, Rika won't give up Rika then explains the facts to Ooishi, who wonder where she knew about this. Ooishi understands it might be the fifth year of the curse (Tomitake is killed, Takano is missing). Ooishi understood her emssage and will do the necessary. Rika is relieved, and tells him no one aside him believed her, and Ooishi then says it is his job so. Rika is in front of the shrine with everyone else, and tells them that Tomitake and Takano will be killed tonight. Keiichi is alright with this, and suggest them to look for Tomitake, first. If you don't want to be spoiled any further, DON'T READ the PART B. it is HUGE. Spoiler for PART B: Everyone escorted the couple, and Tomitake assures them it is okay now. Rika is still worried about them. The groups greet each other good night, and leave. Rika is still really worried. Tomitake is packing his bag, and asks Takano to tell Irie about Rika, which might go paranoid. If something happens to her, it might be bad for them. Takano suddenly puts her hand on his, and tells him she loves him. They don't have much time, and Takano mentions about her dream. Takano wants to make the curse of Oyashiro-sama as a reality. Tomitake says "no way...", but Takano confirms his doubt. Tomitake stands up immediately, and takano was expecting this reaction. Takano says it is part of her job and opens the door, and the yamainu infiltrates immediately the room. Takano mentions they were sent by Tokyo to "diffuse the bomb", but they can also make it explodes. Tomitake is completely shocked and doesn't want to believe this. He knows what would happen if they do this, and Takano confirms this. Tomitake tries to convince Okonogi (the leader of the Yamainu?) but takano is amused, since the Yamainu is HER troop. The Yamainu then restrain Tomitake on the ground. Takano is delighted, but asks once again if Tomitake would follow her. Tomitake doesn't want to be a comrade/accomplice. Takano then shows a syringe. Takano begins some delirium speech, while Tomitake is helpless, knowing his incoming demise. Tomitake is put in the chest of Takano's car. She then gives to the Yamainu their orders. Takano drives the car, but notices a police car, which doesn't help her plan. She keeps going. She stops someplace ahead, and unload Tomitake, and his bike. She then says once Tomitake will wake up, he will goes to LEVEL 5 and die. It will fit the Curse. Takano is wearing a black suit, and drink a tea in a operation truck. One of her men reports something about Tomitake's corpse. Takano doesn't mind, and asks to go on on their plan, but the Soldier is a bit hesitant. Takano is in her delirium. The solider understands, and is about to leave. But takano stops him and asks how was her cover for her "death", and he explains that they burned a body and put in a dram can around the mountain. The police found tomitake's corpse. Kuma is reporting the details, while ooishi conclude it is the fifth time. Irie is present and doesn't believe it, and doesn't WANT to believe it. Takano is awaiting the massacre... Complains : the tracks were a bit off, especially for the first part, while the later part sound too recycled. Also, the transition between satoko's conclusion and the festival is a bit fast, but it isn't too bad. Praises: The big impact of Satoko's case (TAKE THAT TEPPEI). Rika's fight, despite "everything look normal". She doesn't take things easy. Aside of this, they really wanted to put a slow but sinister mood of the change of the event. Rika did everything she could do, and it is obviously a dead end... An excellent episode, and frankly, next week will be a killer. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter] Last edited by Klashikari; 2007-09-13 at 16:11.

2007-09-13, 15:50	Link #10
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	oki wtf just happened Spoiler: And when things where going so well...why did takano had to go and do that ;___; Ive always suspected her of something and this just confirms it...gah this arc is killing me! @_@ on a happier note: yay for satoko! __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2007-09-13, 16:55	Link #12
Sterling01 霊夢→デレ Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC, NY Age: 46	Takano is falling off the deep end I mean she looks so tired RAW's out __________________ Last edited by Sterling01; 2007-09-13 at 17:39.

2007-09-13, 14:58	Link #2
ayukanon45 Doujin Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta, Georgia	just saw it, ammazing episode, be ready for a wtf? unless, you alreadyt no. WTF?

2007-09-13, 15:17	Link #4
ayukanon45 Doujin Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta, Georgia	yep, they ARE releasing a second soundtrack

2007-09-13, 15:35	Link #6
MarthX Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 39	I know there's been new tracks, but I don't recall hearing the ones in this episode before. Or maybe my excitement is interfering with my brain.

2007-09-13, 15:36	Link #7
ayukanon45 Doujin Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta, Georgia	yueah, i meant 3rd, but yes, its been very obvious since then. I just dont want to wait for the new ost!!! btw, does this end the arc, i wasnt really paying much attention to detail, and i dont want to rewatch it.

2007-09-13, 16:18	Link #11
LuckyCat Wise Kitty Cat Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego, CA	Yeah this episode had a really nice transition with the victory for Satoko followed by the unfolding murder plan. I may need to watch it again!

2007-09-13, 18:20	Link #13
harukamae だんご大家族の一人 Join Date: Mar 2007	auauau Spoiler for episode 11: This is just awesome! We finally get a look from the other side of the "Fifth Year Curse"! I am pumped and cannot wait for next week! It'll be awesome to see the showdown in the woods animated... But I do agree, I think they threw away the Satoko/Teppei portion...I mean, I know they have a lot of ground to cover, but still...

2007-09-13, 18:54	Link #15
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	Spoiler for Episode 11: Yeah i watched the preview for this episode last week, but still, THAT WAS CRAZY. Brilliantly done, just what i've been waiting to see in Kai. Takano was on top form this episode --- just when you think you've seen everything about her, and now this. I was very surprised, though couldn't help but love the mood set at the time. Yet again the musical score for this series is played at the correct times, just like the first series. Kawai has always created such tracks that let out the right level of emotion for that scene, and they're used perfectly in this show. __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2007-09-13, 19:00	Link #16
Rias Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003	Hmm...well, another great epsiode, besides the minor points that went on too fast, the epsiode is nicely done. We are now finally into the anti-climax of the story, and the real meaning of Minagoroshi-hen will soon take place. Some parts still went too fast, namely Satoko's rescue, and espically Tomi's struggle. Spoiler: Takano's quote of "Just expected from Jirou-san, we need 6 Yamainu to supress you" makes no sense when Tomi just got knocked over in like 5 seconds. They should've at least shown that some of the Yamainu was knocked down to show that Tomi is actually THAT strong It's good to see Dr.Iri at the end, but he really could've talked more. It's good that they will spend more time at this anti-climax portion, since the coming epsiodes will be just as epic than what happened earlier in the arc. __________________

2007-09-13, 19:56	Link #19
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	Well... it is hard to say. Frankly, i don't mind Kawai's new tracks (which are much more effective than those used for S1), but some time, it is just over used or too dull. I'm especially referring to Satoko's outburst and hug.... to be quite blunt, the tracks were like... well a dull drama for some powerful moments. These are the only scenes i would complain in this ep for the BGM. phew well then, here is the truckload of screencaps. Again, you will be spoiled if you take a peek at these, i leave that to your own discretion. Episode 11 : Screencaps __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2007-09-13, 20:21	Link #20
MrZombie Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Age: 40	I do have to agree about the music. It's no where as powerful as those found in the games, hell even Matsuri's soundtrack is much, much better. And really, I agree what the hell Spoiler for epsiode 11: "The as expected" line. Lazy animation again! But still, some very nice moments in this episode. I still gave it a ten despite the failings this episode had. I enjoyed the hell out of it.