The Genderbending of Haruhi Suzumiya [Spoilers Aplenty]

[DJ_RockmanX]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Mmm. Shouldn't we add the extra "u" for pronunciation clarification?

I suppose. Although it doesn't look as pretty.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

I suppose. Although it doesn't look as pretty.

Romanized Japanese isn't very pretty...

Also, that's the third time I've edited the style page within 5 minutes... good god...

[Kang Seung Jae]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Mmm. Shouldn't we add the extra "u" for pronunciation clarification?

There is no real need, unless you want to get technical.

[Onizuka-GTO]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Just like to point out that each person has a particular style of writing... having multiple people do it is going to cause certain issues.

Besides, I'd rather we do it in order rather than choose random chapters, so we can see how the story will change as a result.

*puts on shades/cross arms & Strike pose*

Who do you think your talking to?

*Baka-Tsuki flag flying in the background/space fleet twinkle in the heavens*


heh. always wanted to say that.

Anyway, been there, done that, got the virtual t-shirt and directors mug to go with it too.

but hey, by all means do it your own way, less work for me.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by dreamoflife

Yeah, but what's frustrating is that we have no way of knowing what he's really like. It's like he has all this potential to be fascinatingly complex, but you have to pick at subtext to get at it, he's horrifyingly underused.

I agree with Emori.

To understand what Itsuki is like, you really would need to explore what the Organization really was. What do we know about it? We at least know the following.

1.They currently are the benefactors of the Haruhi Espers (Itsuki included), that destroy the Avatars in the Closed spaces that She creates.

2.Their objectives are to prevent the creation of new closed spaces by Haruhi, and to contain the ones that she does create. This is done to ensure the stability of the current reality.

3.The resources they have available to them are not insignificant (Gaining private access to a mansion on a Private island? That can't be cheap)

4.Some of their members might unpleasant people. One of Saski's espers was pretty afraid of Mori, the organizations "maid". Mori didn't exactly look like she was thinking happy thoughts when they rescued Mikuru.

5.They have expertise. Note how one of the brothers was able to sucessfully track down a vehicle in a high speed chase. And Tamaru was obviously confident enough in his sailing skills to take the boat out in the middle of storm without desperation pushing him. These guys are obviously not salary men.

Generally speaking, people with these kinds of assets and skills aren't given or provided to people with sun shiny rosy dispositions. You might not like what you find when you look into Itsuki's background.

I personally think theres allot of nice material that could be expanded lying underneath everything going on in the original series.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

*puts on shades/cross arms & Strike pose*

Who do you think your talking to?

*Baka-Tsuki flag flying in the background/space fleet twinkle in the heavens*


heh. always wanted to say that.

Anyway, been there, done that, got the virtual t-shirt and directors mug to go with it too.

but hey, by all means do it your own way, less work for me.

Do we even have a flag? If not, can it be this one?

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

To understand what Itsuki is like, you really would need to explore what the Organization really was. What do we know about it? We at least know the following.

1.They currently are the benefactors of the Haruhi Espers (Itsuki included), that destroy the Avatars in the Closed spaces that She creates.

2.Their objectives are to prevent the creation of new closed spaces by Haruhi, and to contain the ones that she does create. This is done to ensure the stability of the current reality.

3.The resources they have available to them are not insignificant (Gaining private access to a mansion on a Private island? That can't be cheap)

4.Some of their members might unpleasant people. One of Saski's espers was pretty afraid of Mori, the organizations "maid". Mori didn't exactly look like she was thinking happy thoughts when they rescued Mikuru.

5.They have expertise. Note how one of the brothers was able to sucessfully track down a vehicle in a high speed chase. And Tamaru was obviously confident enough in his sailing skills to take the boat out in the middle of storm without desperation pushing him. These guys are obviously not salary men.

Generally speaking, people with these kinds of assets and skills aren't given or provided to people with sun shiny rosy dispositions. You might not like what you find when you look into Itsuki's background.

I personally think theres allot of nice material that could be expanded lying underneath everything going on in the original series.

Don't forget that the reason they have so much money is because of the Tsuruya family.

[Tangowr]

[DJ_RockmanX]

@RR: You raise good points, but it isn't our job to flesh out Itsuki in the rewritten version of the novels. We'll wait for Tanigawa to do that himself. All we have to do is translate Itsuki and the organization into the characters we're creating.

@Kaisos: Where was that said?

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

@RR: You raise good points, but it isn't our job to flesh out Itsuki in the rewritten version of the novels. We'll wait for Tanigawa to do that himself. All we have to do is translate Itsuki and the organization into the characters we're creating.

@Kaisos: Where was that said?

Mmm, it was hinted at in Volume 7 that the Tsuruya family is funding the Organization. I forget where, think Koizumi said it. Would make sense, considering Tsuruya's knowledge that most of the brigade isn't exactly human, and the absurd amount of money that the family has. Doesn't one of her relatives own a castle in Europe?

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Tangowr

Pics 3, 5, and 9 are absolutely gorgeous. Pics 3 and 5 are an improvement over the original, actually. I found Haruhi's mouth movements overdone, but they don't look so bad with Haruhi gender-bended into Haruki.

Male Yuki wouldn't have a witch hat, though. I don't think so anyway. Probably a cloak of some sort.

[Tangowr]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Do we even have a flag? If not, can it be this one?

I say this...no...since this isn't the gurren brigade...

[DJ_RockmanX]

This is the GREAT SOS-DAN. Who the hell did you think we were?

[Kristen]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Pics 3, 5, and 9 are absolutely gorgeous. Pics 3 and 5 are an improvement over the original, actually. I found Haruhi's mouth movements overdone, but they don't look so bad with Haruhi gender-bended into Haruki.

Male Yuki wouldn't have a witch hat, though. I don't think so anyway. Probably a cloak of some sort.

A wizard's cap, maybe?

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Pics 3, 5, and 9 are absolutely gorgeous. Pics 3 and 5 are an improvement over the original, actually. I found Haruhi's mouth movements overdone, but they don't look so bad with Haruhi gender-bended into Haruki.

Male Yuki wouldn't have a witch hat, though. I don't think so anyway. Probably a cloak of some sort.

Dress him up as Harry Potter.

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

This is the GREAT SOS-DAN. Who the hell did you think we were?

It was actually an in-joke... see, Oni is British, and I was suggesting that as the BT Flag...

Nevermind.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

It was actually an in-joke... see, Oni is British, and I was suggesting that as the BT Flag...

Nevermind.

Oh... the B-T flag. Well that's fine, I know that Oni's British.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

Oh... the B-T flag. Well that's fine, I know that Oni's British.

I actually made a Canadian version, too.


My country is now AWESOME.

[Tangowr]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

I actually made a Canadian version, too.


My country is now AWESOME.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Dress him up as Harry Potter.

Yeah, you and ChrissieXD both have good ideas there.

Oh Canada! You have never looked so cool - Great job there Kaisos.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Don't forget that the reason they have so much money is because of the Tsuruya family.

[Teal'c]Indeed[/Teal'c]. That also brings up the question, why exactly are the Tsuruya family involved with a group like the organization? How does the Tsuruya family get it's bread? Would it be incorrect to say their is no distinction between the Tsuruya clan an the organization?

All very interesting question, but not exactly relevant to this thread.

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

@RR: You raise good points, but it isn't our job to flesh out Itsuki in the rewritten version of the novels. We'll wait for Tanigawa to do that himself. All we have to do is translate Itsuki and the organization into the characters we're creating.

Absolutely. The focus of this project is to gender invert the caste of the novels. And frankly I don't think that this kind of material would come up in the novels, but will merely be alluded to. I don't think the Agency would want Kyon who's trust they really need to keep Haruhi stable to find out about any Skeletons they might have in the closet.

They wouldn't be a secret organization if they let stuff like that out

Originally Posted by Tangowr

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Damn, Haruki is such a Frau Fresser, ain't he. Nothing can appease his appetite.

[Kristen]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Yeah, you and ChrissieXD both have good ideas there.

Oh Canada! You have never looked so cool - Great job there Kaisos.

Or go or the wizard mickey mouse look.