2004-01-06, 08:34 | Link #41 | |
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But anyway my point is that his muscle snapped just by hitting Gaara in a 'first gates state'. So with the 4~5 Gates open, running into an absolute wall of chakra at this speed means looking like a piece of chopped meat after that. Pain or not, his body would be just completely destroyed. |
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2004-01-06, 09:13 | Link #42 | ||
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2004-01-06, 09:24 | Link #43 |
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Something tells me that Lee is very aware of Neji's "64 hands" and that part of Lee's plan may of been just to stay "faster" or "ahead" of Neji's paws alltogether. I think that is the only reason Lee wanted or had to use the gates, because LEE knew that was the only way he could possible win against Neji.
The points everyone made are great, but I'm just putting more into that Lee could of won because of his own statement and Gai's "that this was the move he was going to beat/use on Neji" (wording?) I don't think Gai would of wasted his own time or raised the hopes of Lee on a manuever that could/would cost Lee's life IF it wouldn't actually work. After Lee won after opening the gates would he of died for sure? I'm a bit confussed. The fight with Gaara he opened "three" right? Can Lee open any more and live? I was also always wondering if Lee contains a lot of chakra? I know he has to have some to channel to open the gates, thus use his chakra more effeciently, but thought he didn't have a lot because of everyones comment that he can not do jutsu(s). |
2004-01-06, 09:33 | Link #44 |
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well... he opens the death gate and he is dead!!! althought for some time he is "invencible" so to speak.
And imo Lee can beat Neji since Neji had trouble finding even Naruto when he became faster due to the Demon Fox Chakra, so if Lee removes the Weight in his legs and opens the 5 gates he can open (think its 5 =P can really remember) he can beat Neji since he can't keep up with him!!!! even the armor of Sand wasn't efficient so i don't think his Divination Whirl will do any better unless he does it randomly and sometimes block the "invisible" attack!!!! his eyes are great, but not that great.... |
2004-01-06, 10:41 | Link #45 | |
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2004-01-06, 19:11 | Link #46 | |
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As much as Naruto's power dint seem so great in the NAruto-Neji fight could be a fact becose of a not so good drawings quality..just assuming but I know that the Kyubi's Chakra wraping around Naruto in the NAruto-Neji fight could have looked a lot more powerful if I refer to the mangas...
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2004-01-06, 19:20 | Link #48 | |
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If you have, you'll know just how good Neji's Byakugan really is (although its unclear whether he was always that good or became that good after the chuunin exam). |
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2004-01-07, 00:15 | Link #49 |
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it is hard to say, i think neji can detect high speed
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so i think speed is out of the question, now as in terms of power, Gai mention tat Juken is the counter of regular tai-jutsu (Teiken is the name?) juken is tai-chi base martial arts, its main purpose was to counter against brutial steel punches and kick (using physics, and spins to return or borrow power from the puncher) so going head to head against neji is out of the question. neji has 64-pt move tat shuts or open/redirct chakra float, so if lee gets poke he will be f-ed. but i do believe lee's gate opening can by-pass pressed pressured pts, since the gate opening things opens his life gates to increase chakra float, tat means it will most likly unplug the pressed pts. now hitting neji with open gate might work... if neji don't activate kai-ten, i bellieve if neji uses kai-ten and lee kicks neji with opengates, lee probably woud of died. (open gate puts a lot of near death stress on his body, plus kai-ten returns damage back to the attacker) overall i think the only way lee is able to beat neji is to somehow outsmart neji or be faster than neji's kai-ten. |
2004-01-08, 09:19 | Link #51 |
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byakugan will look through everything.
neji only will loose after rock lee open his fifth gate.... i think neji will allow rock lee to have the time open the fifth gate... bcoz neji's personality reminds me a lot of VEGETA from DBZ but i like neji bcoz he is good guy |
2004-01-08, 11:20 | Link #52 |
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Neji lost because he was off guard, that's it simply put. He was cocky and arrogant, and he underestimated Naruto. Neji probably wouldv'e been serious against Lee and wouldn't have left the openings he did against Naruto. However this can go on for days. Why? No one except for Lee has really shown their true potential. Neji is alot smarter and possible could find a way to counter Lee's speed. Who knows. Neways we may yet eventually see about between these two or sumthin, so keep watching the show. Not to mention let's see a fight where Neji takes it seriously and goes all out.
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2004-01-12, 08:16 | Link #53 |
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i few important points to bring up
a) the arrow hunter is talking about wuz shot beyond 50 meters... and becuase of byakugan Neiji can see through the trees and see it... thereby giving him time to react whereas... with Lee... he will be around 10 meters from Neiji and using his incredible speed... less time to react... the arrow made the trees bend... lee running made the ground break... similar... secondly Byakugan allows Neiji to see how fast rock lee is moving... but even with Sasuke and the Sharingan... he could barely track Lee WITH WEIGHTS ON! (think before the chunin exam)... like it says everywhere... sure u can follow the moves... but you might not have the reaction time to actually move or do anything... sharingan and byakugan are similar... in their ability to track... when the enemy is up close and not hiding behind (in which byakugan would allow the user to see through the objects)... therefore... i think Byakugan would have a limit... and Neiji would probably have his ass handed over to him by Lee... |
2004-01-12, 11:10 | Link #54 | |
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So that only proves that Neji's reflexes are completely crazy. |
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2004-01-12, 11:28 | Link #55 |
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umm no he would have lost. Everyone thinks rock lee's gates is something he can use every battle. It is his trump card, even his trainer told him only to use it when he really needed it. I don't think gai would have given him permission to use it against neji. But supposing he used it, then what? his body is torn to shit and he ends up in hospital like he did with gaara. Chouji got beat up too, but he didn't go popping pills just because his opponent was stronger than him
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2004-01-12, 11:39 | Link #56 | |
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not to mention using a forbidden/dangerous jutsu against a fellow leaf is just cowardly. (which is why the N/S fight has so much significance) |
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2004-01-12, 13:00 | Link #58 | ||
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