Macross Frontier - Episode 25 Discussion / Poll [END]

[FLCL]

Originally Posted by finalnight

Just watched the sub, is it me or did they never show the Macross Battle Frontier transform? How lame, we waited a whole series and they didnt even show the transform sequence.

Also, never showed Frontier fire its main gun. I guess moneyshots are saved for the movie.

what are you talking about, in fold fame it oblierated the vajra with it

[mechabao]

Originally Posted by FLCL

what are you talking about, in fold fame it oblierated the vajra with it

He meant that they never showed the Frontier firing its main gun in episode 25. Quite ironic that for a mecha porn loaded episode, the battle galaxy and frontier were mostly in the background (mostly doing nothing) with the fighters taking center stage.

[Anh_Minh]

Hee. The romance is somehow less decided than it was in ep24. VF25 did forgive Alto for his transgression, only to be casually trashed after he didn't need it any more. Men can be such bastards.

Also, for the romance involving his penis rather than his heart, Alto made a play for a threesome with Sheryl and Ranka. "You're both my wings." Har. They don't seem totally hostile to the idea, but he'll have to work some more to sell it.

[Harimo Haria]

A great series, ending left me feeling a bit empty but hopefully the movie will fill in that gap.

[germanturkey]

^^ so there is a movie?

anyways, 8/10

excellent space battle, superbly choreographed, amazing music, but it was so rushed and the story so messed that it dropped it down a few points.

like, all of a sudden the Vajra are friends and the last 5 eps of Alto x Sheryl development gets throw out the window? come on.. i loved the Lion duet. excellent.

in the case of a movie, i seriously hope that they do finish off the triangle.

so what i'll take from this series:
Sheryl
the music
the excellent space battles
Sheryl
the ridiculously amazing final fight
Sheryl
That picture of Alto as a girl with sheryl
and that picture of sheryl in white lingerie with the headphones and mp3 player...

did i mention Sheryl?

[Cadorna]

EPICCCC, Awesomeeeee

I give a 9/10 becaue the damn unresolve LT, but the ep was a epic final battle. i think the movie will be a continuation and not a remake, because the other "Villans" ( the onesd behind Grace in shdows ) are still out there, and Galaxy's colony and rest of the fleet too.

Can anyone take a picture from the 11 Macross Fleet and Macross City ( epic homage ep).

[MaiHikari]

Macross was about the music, the fighting, and the romance. MF accomplished the first two but left the third unresolved. Episode 25 was epic for its battle scenes and music remixes, although it was a little rushed.

The goods:
- Remixes of all the good songs
- Excellent mecha action
- Sheryl is cured
- Grace is dead
- Brera and Alto fighting together
- Alto's salute to Sheryl in reference to DYRL

The bads:
- It's convenient that the giant Ranka was not Ranka so the people of Frontier can forgive her.
- Sheryls cure was Ranka's touch; cliche and anticlimatic
- Galaxy is still faceless, only represented by Grace
- Alto ran away from answering the girls again; LT unresolved

The fixes:
- A good movie wrapping up all lose ends!

Ep 25: 8/10
Overall Series: 9/10

[Minari]

can someone explain the salute about reference to DYRL? Like what is the significance of it? Because I never watched it... ^^;;;

[Shouta]

7/10 on the episode

- Action was insane. Lots of cool Macross stuff in it. It was orgasmic.
- Animation was up to snuff for the most part although some of the dancing animation was loose.
- It captured the right feel. On the other hand, the music was all over the place and that was kind of annoying.
- Story was still too compressed and that made the last two eps or so feel really rushed.
- Characters are still a mess and this didn't do anything to actually redeem Ranka, my biggest complaint with the characters, beyond really stupid and superficial means.
- Of course, a non-ending even compared to Mac7.

[glyph]

Originally Posted by mechabao

He meant that they never showed the Frontier firing its main gun in episode 25. Quite ironic that for a mecha porn loaded episode, the battle galaxy and frontier were mostly in the background (mostly doing nothing) with the fighters taking center stage.

Well, you already get to see Battle Galaxy which is a NMC like Battle Frontier fire its main guns, so it's redundant. They'd rather showcase the Macross Pinpoint Barrier Punch and Daedalus (Destroid) attack.

[wolfboy]

I love how they added the Ghosts. Those suckers are faaast.

Also, I never noticed Ranka's family were big as Zentradi. I take it they're permanently micronized now?

Spoiler for family size:

[glyph]

Originally Posted by Minari

can someone explain the salute about reference to DYRL? Like what is the significance of it? Because I never watched it... ^^;;;

Hikaru salutes Misa on the Macross Bridge in battroid mode just before sortieing on the final bombing run inside the Gorg Boddole Zer Fortress while Minmay sings.

[Wesley84]

Originally Posted by wolfboy

I love how they added the Ghosts. Those suckers are faaast.

Also, I never noticed Ranka's family were big as Zentradi. I take it they're permanently micronized now?

Spoiler for family size:

...I think that's a matter of perspective.

[wolfboy]

Originally Posted by Wesley84

...I think that's a matter of perspective.

Is it? That's really deceptive then

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by Minari

can someone explain the salute about reference to DYRL? Like what is the significance of it? Because I never watched it... ^^;;;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzn5V...eature=related
Better if you watch it tons of references in Frontier finale.

[finalnight]

This series showed a lot of similarities to GSD in pacing/structure and the ending is another (yes i realize GSD copied from the other macross's). A rushed thing that showed flashes of greatness that will be patched/upgraded by the movie.

Eternal threesome ftw!

[Minari]

ahhh i see

Thanks. So I would take it Sheryl would be in the lead then in love triangle points? lol

[Kristen]

Macross 25 was the epitome of a climax. To me, the entire Macross series is nothing more than a 10 hour long symphony that carries a story with it. And this was the grand finale, pulling together all the music and feelings of the storyline together into one big conclusion.

Absolutely amazing series, and it's a shame to see it go. I'm guessing it'll be liscenced within a month.

10/10

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Kristen

Absolutely amazing series, and it's a shame to see it go. I'm guessing it'll be liscenced within a month.

10/10

Won't be licensed unless Satelight and Big West sue Harmony Gold over distribution. Would be a distinct possibility, but the music is licensed by yet another corporation. The problem with Macross is that its always multi-licensed, more complicated than most anime out there. Then again, its music also goes on charts, which is what other anime can seldom accomplish.

On the other hand, there will be a movie.

- Tak

[kujoe]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzn5V...eature=related
Better if you watch it tons of references in Frontier finale.

Macross: Do you remember love?

Oh yes, yes I do. Still one of the greatest moments in anime ever in my opinion. But it's also kind of funny how this war-like, gigantic race got beaten by a pop singer in a cute outfit. Well, that's Macross for you.

Originally Posted by Tak

Won't be licensed unless Satelight and Big West sue Harmony Gold over distribution. Would be a distinct possibility, but the music is licensed by yet another corporation. The problem with Macross is that its always multi-licensed, more complicated than most anime out there. Then again, its music also goes on charts, which is what other anime can seldom accomplish.

But didn't ADV put out a new release of the non-Robotech Macross series? I would like to think that a Macross Frontier US release has a good chance of happening. Considering all the issues involved, it would probably take some time though, even if it were possible.