2009-11-06, 10:07 | Link #1021 | |
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Given that the transference of information "backward" in time requires a conscious action on the part of the future end of the transference, and given that Data Entities at any point in their development before they achieved awareness (i.e. when they were at the IQ equivalent of "dumb animals") would be unable to comprehend the data stream from the future anyway, I do think that linear time would still apply to their pre-sapience evolution, even if they "broke free" from it starting when they developed this ability to transmit data back in time. |
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2009-11-07, 03:36 | Link #1022 | |
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1) Make sure the later years in the franchise aren't quite as eventful. This is going to have to be by number of "events" as opposed to memorability, since I imagine the final event, no matter when that may be, will probably be the most memorable single event. But we're fudging anyway, so linguistic leeway is certainly acceptable. 2) Retroactively add a few more "events" to the first year. A bit less likely, considering the first year was pretty full (8 volumes worth) but still feasible. I'm not sure any uncovered events in the first year are hinted at, but I'm sure the author could think of something. Preferably as fanon-killing as possible... I love seeing that. ^__^
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2009-11-07, 16:40 | Link #1023 | |
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2009-11-07, 18:57 | Link #1025 |
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I didn't think that the Valentine's Day promotion for Volume 7 had anything to do with that. In fact, I'm quite certain it doesn't, as Kyon mentions somewhere in either this volume or a later one that the punishment Haruhi gave to Kyon and Mikuru was never to be spoken of.
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2010-05-05, 19:21 | Link #1026 |
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I think the de facto spoiler nature of the Volume 10 novel makes this thread very appropriate for discussion purposes. After all, to really understand and analyze Volume 10 requires familiarity with the previous 9 volumes.
So are there any drawn images of the new SOS Brigade candidates?
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2010-05-06, 02:09 | Link #1028 |
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I believe the movie editing was explained by one of the video game plots. I can't remember which it was, but I do know that one game (I think it was the one preceding Tomadoi) deals with alternate timelines surrounding the Culture Festival. All sorts of craziness can be caused there (Kyon dying, Haruhi meeting her younger self, Kimidori replacing Nagato, etc.) since its a visual novel with lots of bad endings. Since no english translation of the game has been made widely available, I think most of us, myself included, are quite ignorant of what else is going on in the Haruhi universe.
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2010-05-06, 08:00 | Link #1030 | |
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2010-05-06, 08:23 | Link #1031 | |
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I've read the first chapter of Kyogaku. Suzumiya's got to be the most clueless girl I've ever seen. And I would never imagine that she's a good cook.
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Seeing how some authors like to have their stories open-ended, maybe it'll be a case of 'you decide which one of the timelines you prefer'. More or less like in those old gamebooks, as Lone Wolf, lol. |
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2010-05-06, 08:27 | Link #1032 |
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Unless it's been stated as canon, it's probably not. The intrinsicly random nature of game adaptations (you play them, not watch them...most of the time) means that they are almost never taken as canon in relation to the parent property. Of course if there's any series would gleefully break that unwritten rule...
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2010-05-06, 09:16 | Link #1033 |
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A fan-translation patch, not exactly a sub. Also, I don't think it's novel canon, but it's anime canon to a certain extent, since I saw that Haruhi wants Mikuru to sing the opening for the movie they shot for the Culture Festival near the start of the story. (Too many commas.)
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Actually, the anime canon is kinda messed up now isn't it? In Disappearance movie Haruhi mentioned she had been drunk before, but no such thing happened in the anime. Last edited by Heatth; 2010-05-07 at 16:49. |
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2010-09-27, 01:34 | Link #1038 | |
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...But my personal favorite is that it's an artifact left behind in the past by one of Mikuru's fellow time travelers, from a time "before" they "became" unable to go back to the period before Haruhi's time fault. Yes, I am aware that that violates even time travel logic (don't think about it too hard, or your head will explode). That's why I like it. ^_^
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2010-09-27, 10:01 | Link #1039 | |
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thanks for the reply. now i understand why tsuruya ask kyon about alien and timetraveler. |
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2010-09-27, 14:35 | Link #1040 | |
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It's quite possible for the alloy rod to have been from the future and not the past. You could say, dig a hole and bury the rod then time travel a hundred years into the future then unbury it. Wah la! 100 year old looking alloy rod without actually waiting 100 years. It's pretty obvious that Fujiwara's group is trying to make Kyon suspicious of Mikuru's group . |
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