[Game] Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru - Ep. 8 Twilight of the golden witch

[Tambo]

Originally Posted by Arcanis

Anyway the point of this post is that I really want to find a transcript of the scrolling text scenes (Battler and Beato's and the very final one). My Japanese is just medium level I only got through the game with the help of Rikaichan and stuff so I only understood like 30% of those scenes (since you can't extract the text from them, god the quizzes were a pain). I really want to read them properly, if not a transcript anyone got at least a summary or something? Please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdI5H...eature=related
Do you mean this?

[Mcjon01]

Originally Posted by Arcanis

Thanks a lot! I don't need a translation, that is enough. But do you have the last scrolling scene from the ???? Tea Party?

Heh, sorry, I kind of missed that you asked for that the first time around. Here it is.

Spoiler for ???? transcript:

待ちくたびれたぞ、戦人ァ。

……すまねぇ。来るのが、遅れちまった。

そなた、何故、車椅子なんぞ座っておるのか。
ほら、手を貸してやるからシャンとせい。

ベアトが歩み出て、……車椅子に座る戦人に、手を差し出す。
戦人は、……その手をゆっくりと掴み、………ゆっくりと、……立ち上がる……。

………俺は、…………………。

聞けっ。ここにようやく、我らは全員が集ったぞっ。
今宵、黄金郷はここに復活するっ。

割れんばかりの拍手が、戦人を祝福する。

そこには、みんないた。
みんな、みんな、みんな。

そしてベアトは戦人を抱き締める。
強く強く、……二度と離さないように抱き締める。

本当に、………よく帰ってきたな……。

帰ってきたぜ。遅くなったな。

……もう、離さぬぞ。

あぁ。俺ももう、離さない。

俺たちは、永遠に一緒だ。

As it turns out, the actual text for all the parts shown in the game as pictures is in the script. Even the riddles. Being able to copy and paste into a dictionary really helped with that part.

[Renall]

Originally Posted by Judoh

You didn't get what I meant. What would that change? What's the difference?

Interchangeability of fictionalized representations of characters means it doesn't matter whether Kyrie or Rosa said a line as long as it was plausible for one of them to do so (and that particular line would work for either one), perhaps?

I still maintain he just made a mistake. You can attempt to justify it with an explanation, but there isn't an actual answer. If he comes out and says "Oh yeah, sprite error in the script, for some reason I thought it was Rosa," we're golden on it being an error. Otherwise, no way to know what he "meant" to do. I just think forgetfulness is more likely. Kyrie and Rosa both have asides with Battler in the first few episodes and offer him similar input and advice. It'd be easy to mix the two up if one hadn't gone back and reviewed the scene.

Of course, why he wouldn't do that first, or why someone testing the VN wouldn't, I can't say.

[Jan-Poo]

What I wonder is what prevented them from simply making a copy and paste of the old code.

At any rate that very same episode had a Hideyoshi hilariously showing up after he was killed earlier...... then again that was confirmed as being an error and was fixed... unlike Rosa... so who knows...

[Renall]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

What I wonder is what prevented them from simply making a copy and paste of the old code.

At any rate that very same episode had a Hideyoshi hilariously showing up after he was killed earlier...... then again that was confirmed as being an error and was fixed... unlike Rosa... so who knows...

At the very least, I'd go back to the old scene to read it. I mean, how can he get the text right and mess up the sprite? It would have to be intentional, but there hardly seems to be any good reason for it.

[Mcjon01]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

What I wonder is what prevented them from simply making a copy and paste of the old code.

At any rate that very same episode had a Hideyoshi hilariously showing up after he was killed earlier...... then again that was confirmed as being an error and was fixed... unlike Rosa... so who knows...

Well, for one thing, it's not a scripting error since what's being shown there is an image file, "kakera_memory5.bmp". So I don't think it's a simple as copy-pasting some code.

[AuraTwilight]

Watch, it's gonna turn out to be a snippet from Land of the Golden Witch and it's gonna be an elaborate troll.

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by Mcjon01

Spoiler for ???? transcript:

待ちくたびれたぞ、戦人ァ。

……すまねぇ。来るのが、遅れちまった。

そなた、何故、車椅子なんぞ座っておるのか。
ほら、手を貸してやるからシャンとせい。

ベアトが歩み出て、……車椅子に座る戦人に、手を差し出す。
戦人は、……その手をゆっくりと掴み、………ゆっくりと、……立ち上がる……。

………俺は、…………………。

聞けっ。ここにようやく、我らは全員が集ったぞっ。
今宵、黄金郷はここに復活するっ。

割れんばかりの拍手が、戦人を祝福する。

そこには、みんないた。
みんな、みんな、みんな。

そしてベアトは戦人を抱き締める。
強く強く、……二度と離さないように抱き締める。

本当に、………よく帰ってきたな……。

帰ってきたぜ。遅くなったな。

……もう、離さぬぞ。

あぁ。俺ももう、離さない。

俺たちは、永遠に一緒だ。

Here's the translation:

Spoiler:

I've waited for you, Battlerrr.

I'm sorry. I was a bit late at coming here.

Why are you sitting on a wheelchair?
Here, I'm giving you a hand, get yourself together.

As she was walking, she presented her hand to Battler who was sitting on the wheelchair.
Battler... slowly... gripped that hand, and... slowly... stood up.

I...

Listen... here, all of us have finally met again.
Tonight, the Golden Land revives here.

Without stopping, the clapping blessed Battler.

Everyone was there.
Everyone. Everyone. Everyone.

And then, Beato hugged Battler.
Stronger and stronger, as if never parting with him again, she hugged him.

You really... came back.

I'm back... late, though.

I... won't let you go again.

Indeed. I won't let you go away either.

We'll be together... forever.

[Jan-Poo]

Originally Posted by Mcjon01

Well, for one thing, it's not a scripting error since what's being shown there is an image file, "kakera_memory5.bmp". So I don't think it's a simple as copy-pasting some code.

I assume it's a screenshot since it would be too much of a hassle to recreate that frame using a graphic program.

Then that means they remade the code anyway.

[Mcjon01]

That's probably true. I guess the point I was trying to make before I lost track of it was that since it's just a screenshot anyway, why recreate anything at all? The earlier scene still exists, they could have easily just taken the screenshot from there directly. If they had been recreating the scene on the fly in the script I could see there being opportunity for error, but the fact that it's a screenshot makes it seem more like it was an intentional change, for whatever reason.

[Jan-Poo]

Did anyone check if the other screenshots are actually exactly the same as in the original game?

As far as I can tell they could have remade all of them for who knows what reason...

[Renall]

I believe there is one other error (possibly in the very same screenshot): In one of the pictures, Battler's expression is a different one than it was in the actual scene.

[Ayu-ayu]

Originally Posted by immblueversion

Spoiler for EP8:

Understandable. They probably don't do the big reveal until the Magic ending, or do they?

Spoiler for That's right...:

That's right, you don't see Tohya's true form until the epilogue where he finally meets Ange.

[luckyssol]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

- He begins to see figures of people he starts to recall. He knows these people but he cannot recall their names.

I find it interesting that Tooya would have a memory of Kanon.
Sometimes I wonder what really happened on Rokkenjima Prime.

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by Ssol

Sometimes I wonder what really happened on Rokkenjima Prime.

I kind of figured this, but I need to make sure:

Spoiler for EP8:

Rokkenjima Prime is the real Rokkenjima, and the place where what really happened (which we never find out what it was) happened. That much is obvious. But is the whole "Prime" thing what started the whole "transformer" debates that have been going on (akin to "Optimus Prime")? They seem pretty ridiculous, so I figured it's just part of an uncannily brilliant joke.

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by neutrino

Going by (the hypothetical) "pro-story" viewpoint, if you don't have drama or strong narrative or characterization, why make it a novel at all, as opposed to a short story or even a puzzle?

You don't really need too much drama, just enough to spice things up. As for characterisation, there's enough for you to understand the characters. However, drama is not central in mystery novels, but the mystery itself.

[Arcanis]

Originally Posted by Mcjon01

Heh, sorry, I kind of missed that you asked for that the first time around. Here it is.

Spoiler for ???? transcript:

待ちくたびれたぞ、戦人ァ。

……すまねぇ。来るのが、遅れちまった。

そなた、何故、車椅子なんぞ座っておるのか。
ほら、手を貸してやるからシャンとせい。

ベアトが歩み出て、……車椅子に座る戦人に、手を差し出す。
戦人は、……その手をゆっくりと掴み、………ゆっくりと、……立ち上がる……。

………俺は、…………………。

聞けっ。ここにようやく、我らは全員が集ったぞっ。
今宵、黄金郷はここに復活するっ。

割れんばかりの拍手が、戦人を祝福する。

そこには、みんないた。
みんな、みんな、みんな。

そしてベアトは戦人を抱き締める。
強く強く、……二度と離さないように抱き締める。

本当に、………よく帰ってきたな……。

帰ってきたぜ。遅くなったな。

……もう、離さぬぞ。

あぁ。俺ももう、離さない。

俺たちは、永遠に一緒だ。

Thanks again.

As it turns out, the actual text for all the parts shown in the game as pictures is in the script. Even the riddles. Being able to copy and paste into a dictionary really helped with that part.

What. If only I had known that I would've saved so much time...

[Ayu-ayu]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Short summaries for today. Beato stalls for time.

Just in case it's not clear, this whole argument in the Golden Land is a feint for Battler, Lambda, and Ange to break into the library. All the characters in the Golden Land are putting up a fake prolonged argument as a show for distracting Erika, trying to also cover for Battler and Lambda's absence by pretending they are part of the argument going on.

[Ayu-ayu]

Originally Posted by immblueversion

I kind of figured this, but I need to make sure:

Spoiler for EP8:

Rokkenjima Prime is the real Rokkenjima, and the place where what really happened (which we never find out what it was) happened. That much is obvious. But is the whole "Prime" thing what started the whole "transformer" debates that have been going on (akin to "Optimus Prime")? They seem pretty ridiculous, so I figured it's just part of an uncannily brilliant joke.

Congrats, you just won ten tons of Energon cubes for solving the puzzle...

Yes, that's right, it was just a cheesy pun on the term. I just had to make fun of it on the other thread since it sounds like a Transformer name, though I added an "s" to the end of Rokkenjima to follow the tradition (Optimus, Rodimus, etc.). Plus it tied in with the other joke theories going on at the time.

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by Ayu-ayu

Congrats, you just won ten tons of Energon cubes for solving the puzzle...

Yay for useless prizes!

Spoiler:

You know what I mean.