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bruno321 · 2007-07-21, 09:19

Hey. Just out of curiosity, what anime isn't based out on manga? The ones that immediately come to mind are Neon Genesis Evangelion and Ergo Proxy.

theDarkHorse · 2007-07-21, 09:43

First one that comes into mind is Last Exile.

Then there are all your anime movies, of which few are manga based.

Then there are those which are based off games/dating sims/H-games, like Air.

Anime based on manga isn't as large a sector as one may think.

SeijiSensei · 2007-07-21, 09:57

I believe Noein is an original story like Ergo Proxy.

Another group of anime derive from novels. Curiously the three that I've enjoyed most were all written by women and set in fictitious Asian (usually Chinese) settings. These include the well-known Juuni Kokki (aka "Twelve Kingdoms") and two current series, Saiunkoku Monogatari and Seirei no Moribito ("Guardian of the Sacred Spirit"). All three authors gave their stories strong and intriguing female protagonists, too.

bruno321 · 2007-07-21, 11:25

Keep them coming

Also, I meant "original anime", as in original stories, based out of nothing I forgot about light novels and games. So yeah, things like Noein and Ergo Proxy.

Radiosity · 2007-07-21, 11:28

Definitely give Sola a try, it's an original work that has a manga as well, but it wasn't based on the manga.

KholdStare · 2007-07-21, 11:44

Does Romeo x Juliet count?

G. Zeus · 2007-07-21, 12:25

IIRC, Escaflowne started as anime and the manga versions were released afterwards. Unlike Evangelion though, the manga adaptations sucked hardcore.

I believe that anime series are more likely to be based on material from other media than OAVs or movies. Makoto Shinkai's works (Voices of a Distant Star, The Place Promised in Our Early Days) were originally in video and the manga adaptations by Yumeka Sumomo (under the pen name "Mizu Sahara") only came afterwards.

Matrim · 2007-07-21, 13:10

Off the top of my head - Noir, Madlax, Simoun, Red Garden and a lot of Sunrise series - most Gundams (not sure about them, though), Mai HiME, Cowboy Bebop, etc

Juan Valdez · 2007-07-21, 14:45

Weren't Mai Hime and Mai Otome original works? I know mangas exist for both, but the manga is based off the anime, not the other way around.

Terrestrial Dream · 2007-07-21, 15:07

Cyber Formula pretty, it is a racing anime in future and it is pretty old but OVA are not that old. Double One game out one 92, Zero came in 1994, don't know about saga, and Sin came in 98.
As said in above Gundam is also not based on manga.

Frans · 2007-07-21, 16:05

Mai-Hime and Mai-Otome manga is original and anime first.. they both have manga, but the story is different.
And most Gundam (maybe all) is original.
Fafner, GunxSword, Heat Guy J, Blood+, Figure 17, Galaxy Angels, Nadesico, Infinite Ryvius, Solty Rei, Gunbuster 1 & 2, Arjuna, Avenger, FLCL, Nanoha, Battle Athletes... the list could go on and on...

Just out of curiosity, why did you ask for original animes?

retardation · 2007-07-21, 18:01

a lot of these bones series: kurau: the phantom memory, eureka7, scrapped princess, wolf's rain (some of these have mangas but i think they came out afterwards)

then others: gungrave (based on a game), kemenozume, trigun (i think the anime came out before the manga), paranoia agent

bruno321 · 2007-07-22, 08:43

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Originally Posted by Frans

Just out of curiosity, why did you ask for original animes?

Just trying to see if there was a pattern. Something which could let you tell "oh, this is an original anime". Telling if an anime is based out of an H-game is not difficult. But I'm not seeing any pattern here

And while at it, I get to discover some series I've never heard of before

Pendevous · 2007-07-22, 14:35

Nanoha and Blood+ are the first ones that I had in mind. Kanon from what I know originated from a game, not a manga. Same goes for Air and DC ~Da Capo~ I think... I'm not entirely sure.

Radiosity · 2007-07-22, 15:05

Nanoha doesn't really count in this case because it's a spinoff from an erogame (Triangle Heart) which is also a short oav anime. So it's not from manga, sure, but it is a derivative work still. However, what they've done with Nanoha blows Triangle Heart out of the water imho, and it might as well be treated as an original work now, since it's basically just Nanoha herself and some other characters that were taken from the games.

And yes, Air is originally an erogame as well as Kanon and DC

Robotnik · 2007-07-22, 15:55

Anime not based on manga, games or novels? Some of these might already have been listed, but OTOH:

* Vandread
* Witch Hunter Robin
* Big O
* Cowboy Bebop
* Please Teacher
* Please Twins
* Tsukikage Ran: Carried by the Wind
* Heat Guy J
* Stellvia
* Kiddy Grade
* Gravion
* Goddanar
* Rahxephon
* Divergence Eve (& Misaki Chronicles)

That's all I can come up with right now; some of these do have manga and novel adaptations, but it's the anime that came first, not the other way around.

2007-07-21, 09:19	Link #1
bruno321 Whirling Knife Join Date: May 2007 Location: Montevideo, Uruguay Age: 34	Anime which isn't based on manga Hey. Just out of curiosity, what anime isn't based out on manga? The ones that immediately come to mind are Neon Genesis Evangelion and Ergo Proxy.

2007-07-21, 09:57	Link #3
SeijiSensei AS Oji-kun Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 74	I believe Noein is an original story like Ergo Proxy. Another group of anime derive from novels. Curiously the three that I've enjoyed most were all written by women and set in fictitious Asian (usually Chinese) settings. These include the well-known Juuni Kokki (aka "Twelve Kingdoms") and two current series, Saiunkoku Monogatari and Seirei no Moribito ("Guardian of the Sacred Spirit"). All three authors gave their stories strong and intriguing female protagonists, too. __________________ Taking Anime Seriously - Politics by the Numbers - Sports by the Numbers - MAL List - Avatars - Images

2007-07-21, 11:25	Link #4
bruno321 Whirling Knife Join Date: May 2007 Location: Montevideo, Uruguay Age: 34	Keep them coming Also, I meant "original anime", as in original stories, based out of nothing I forgot about light novels and games. So yeah, things like Noein and Ergo Proxy. Last edited by bruno321; 2007-07-21 at 11:42. Reason: bolded out for clearness

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KholdStare ISML Technical Staff Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 35	Does Romeo x Juliet count? __________________ Kholdy's MAL, ISML Chat, Saimoe Blog, Saimoe Wiki

2007-07-21, 12:25	Link #7
G. Zeus Cafe Alpha customer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Manila Age: 37	IIRC, Escaflowne started as anime and the manga versions were released afterwards. Unlike Evangelion though, the manga adaptations sucked hardcore. I believe that anime series are more likely to be based on material from other media than OAVs or movies. Makoto Shinkai's works (Voices of a Distant Star, The Place Promised in Our Early Days) were originally in video and the manga adaptations by Yumeka Sumomo (under the pen name "Mizu Sahara") only came afterwards. __________________ Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou <º))))><.¸.•´¯`•.¸reviews¸.•´¯`•.¸links¸.•´¯`•.¸.><((((º> Last edited by G. Zeus; 2007-07-21 at 12:50.

2007-07-21, 09:43	Link #2
theDarkHorse at what speed must i live Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 33	First one that comes into mind is Last Exile. Then there are all your anime movies, of which few are manga based. Then there are those which are based off games/dating sims/H-games, like Air. Anime based on manga isn't as large a sector as one may think.

2007-07-21, 11:28	Link #5
Radiosity Sexy Tornado Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The European Bunion Age: 45	Definitely give Sola a try, it's an original work that has a manga as well, but it wasn't based on the manga.

2007-07-21, 13:10	Link #8
Matrim Naysayer?Fanboy?Wiseacre? Join Date: Dec 2005	Off the top of my head - Noir, Madlax, Simoun, Red Garden and a lot of Sunrise series - most Gundams (not sure about them, though), Mai HiME, Cowboy Bebop, etc __________________ 'The world we live in is always in darkness.' 'Yes, and that is why we seek light.'

2007-07-21, 14:45	Link #9
Juan Valdez Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tha Town	Weren't Mai Hime and Mai Otome original works? I know mangas exist for both, but the manga is based off the anime, not the other way around.

2007-07-21, 15:07	Link #10
Terrestrial Dream 勇者 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tesla Leicht Institute Age: 34	Cyber Formula pretty, it is a racing anime in future and it is pretty old but OVA are not that old. Double One game out one 92, Zero came in 1994, don't know about saga, and Sin came in 98. As said in above Gundam is also not based on manga. __________________

2007-07-21, 16:05	Link #11
Frans Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006	Mai-Hime and Mai-Otome manga is original and anime first.. they both have manga, but the story is different. And most Gundam (maybe all) is original. Fafner, GunxSword, Heat Guy J, Blood+, Figure 17, Galaxy Angels, Nadesico, Infinite Ryvius, Solty Rei, Gunbuster 1 & 2, Arjuna, Avenger, FLCL, Nanoha, Battle Athletes... the list could go on and on... Just out of curiosity, why did you ask for original animes?

2007-07-21, 18:01	Link #12
retardation phantom loser Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: toronto Age: 40	a lot of these bones series: kurau: the phantom memory, eureka7, scrapped princess, wolf's rain (some of these have mangas but i think they came out afterwards) then others: gungrave (based on a game), kemenozume, trigun (i think the anime came out before the manga), paranoia agent

2007-07-22, 14:35	Link #14
Pendevous Yoroshiku Graphic Designer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Age: 36	Nanoha and Blood+ are the first ones that I had in mind. Kanon from what I know originated from a game, not a manga. Same goes for Air and DC ~Da Capo~ I think... I'm not entirely sure.

2007-07-22, 15:05	Link #15
Radiosity Sexy Tornado Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The European Bunion Age: 45	Nanoha doesn't really count in this case because it's a spinoff from an erogame (Triangle Heart) which is also a short oav anime. So it's not from manga, sure, but it is a derivative work still. However, what they've done with Nanoha blows Triangle Heart out of the water imho, and it might as well be treated as an original work now, since it's basically just Nanoha herself and some other characters that were taken from the games. And yes, Air is originally an erogame as well as Kanon and DC

2007-07-22, 15:55	Link #16
Robotnik Not a member Join Date: Jan 2006	Anime not based on manga, games or novels? Some of these might already have been listed, but OTOH: * Vandread * Witch Hunter Robin * Big O * Cowboy Bebop * Please Teacher * Please Twins * Tsukikage Ran: Carried by the Wind * Heat Guy J * Stellvia * Kiddy Grade * Gravion * Goddanar * Rahxephon * Divergence Eve (& Misaki Chronicles) That's all I can come up with right now; some of these do have manga and novel adaptations, but it's the anime that came first, not the other way around.