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Slade · 2004-05-22, 11:32

Nice, this is just the kind of series I've been looking forward to. Stylish with plenty of action and comedy.

Mugen and Jin rock equally

. Mugen's almost got the Spike Spiegel goofyness while Jin has a cold and calculating(yet fair) demeaner, a nice contrast of personalities indeed. It'll be a blast seeing how they deal with each other.

This series is so stylish it bloody bleeds(to be redundent) style- Definitely going to follow these series and pick up the DVD when it comes out... although I hope the animation quality doesn't drop from the first episode like it often does in many different anime series.

Well, time will tell... if I had to review the first episode though from a scale of 10, I'd give it a shiny 10

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silentpixel · 2004-05-22, 12:22

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Originally Posted by kagetsu

Finished mine, I don't do this often just whenever I get spurts.

i really like that

Youko Recca · 2004-05-22, 12:29

Why is that?

silentpixel · 2004-05-22, 13:24

no i meant i like what he made. lol i like your to. even though their both similar

hunterx · 2004-05-22, 14:42

without the hiphop it would just be like another recycled samurai anime. I like how they took all that samurai stuff and added hiphop and all the jarring and mixing to it. I hope they stick to their take it or leave it style.

kagetsu · 2004-05-22, 14:46

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Originally Posted by silentpixel

no i meant i like what he made. lol i like your to. even though their both similar

The first one I made had all three of them in it but it was to big for the boards. Plus while I was making it I had put mugen in the scene first and really liked it so I took fuu and jin out and added a border to it last night. I was gonna try to do a blue glow coming off the sword but I didn't like it as much. Maybe its just my skills suck right now in photoshop but if I figure something out i'd put it in.

jennwenn · 2004-05-22, 14:48

I watched it again, this time not when I was doing something else at the same time and w/subs. I think I know where the story is headed now. I suspect Fuu's family was killed by a samurai/villain-type and she is hiring Mugen and Jin to track him down and kill him for revenge.

This is very typical of samurai stories, like in Blade of the Immortal or Lone Wolf & Cub. (I'm getting SERIOUS Blade of the Immortal vibes.) But of course, I anticipate some Watanabe twists. I really want to watch more samurai flicks, there must be so many injokes here. For example, Fuu made fun of the guard's traditional shaved hairstyle (I don't know the name of it) as if she were speaking from the modern "how unfashionable" persepctive, and Mugen cut off the Addidas guy's (dyed punk blonde!) topknot, which is a huge sign of disrespect.

I loved the scene where Fuu said she'd do anything and the guy's like "anything?! *drool*"

I still don't know what to think about that flying squirel mascot thing. Uh, unneccesary?

So Watanage has tackled jazz & space and is taking on hip-hop & samurai. Hip-hop still isn't my thing, but its a cool concept. I like how no character yet can be called a rehash of Spike, Ed, Faye, or Jet. The new characters are totally different. In fact, if I didn't already know I'd probably not recognize that this series was from the director of Cowboy Bebop.

I'm so glad that many more samurai/ninja/historical Japan anime are coming out now. I love this genre to death!

Who licensed this again?

Youko Recca · 2004-05-22, 14:59

Geneon is getting this bad boy.

oDin01 · 2004-05-22, 14:59

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Originally Posted by jennwenn

Who licensed this again?

Geneon. Licenced almost a year before the anime even aired in Japan.

jennwenn · 2004-05-22, 15:12

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Originally Posted by oDin01

Geneon. Licenced almost a year before the anime even aired in Japan.

Good! Geneon are by far the fastest when it comes to releasing their DVDs.

wnkryo · 2004-05-22, 16:29

This series is SUPER hot. ------WoW

A little thing like a license can't stop "people" from seeing this one

Edit: Just want to add that, if those who didn't notice, Zoro from One Piece voices Mugen. I guess he was made for a swordsmen voice ^^

metachronism · 2004-05-22, 18:05

For those of you wondering, "champloo" is an okinawan stir fry--probably hinting at the amalgamation of Edo-era Japan and the present-day Japan in the show. You'll notice that they intentionally mix modern slang with historical language of the era, and some of the people are dressed...eh... strangely

.

Mugen is from "Ryūkyū" which is the old name of Okinawa (actually, it's the name of the kingdom that existed there that was independent of Japan). That's why he's dressed funny (well, ok, it's a little exaggerated in the show) and his capricious attitude doesn't "fit in" with the rest of the Edo folks.

BTW, I love the caustic humor in this show

--meta

apr · 2004-05-22, 20:06

Personally I think the bestest part of the first episode is Fuu's face when she's called an idiot by one of the customers.

Regarding the show, I think the music is brilliant (and I usually can't stand hip-hop), with a delightful ending theme, although I might wish they could spell "lyrics" properly.

The animation is top-notch, very likely because someone who puts out Cowboy Bebop will get a budget the size of Jupiter, but the show is remarkably ugly. All characters were hit with the ugly-stick prior to release from the drawing board, which is rather interesting. Note the teeth especially.

Storywise, it has yet to bloom. It was a clear character introduction episode, and my Japanese isn't all that fabulous just yet (I watched the raw). Fuu is a damsel in distress, Jin is a hero with skills, and Mugen is a punk -- it should become interesting, at least.

In reply to the discussion on scratch cuts, I thought it was nice. I seem to recall it was used moderately, in situations when the story was either pulled back a bit, or when it jumped between two concurrent events.

All in all, it's a big fat YAY! since I loved Cowboy Bebop and want to see more like it.

Spooky-Electric · 2004-05-22, 22:02

There's a new sub out from a group called something.

Lunchboxx · 2004-05-22, 22:04

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Originally Posted by Spooky-Electric

There's a new sub out from a group called something

Yeah, I was Amazed when I refreshed Animsuki and they had That up, its not there anymore but how did it get there in the first place?

**ElvenPath** · 2004-05-22, 22:33

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Originally Posted by Spooky-Electric

There's a new sub out from a group called...

Samurai Champloo is licensed by Geneon Entertainment (USA), Inc.

Spoiler:

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Originally Posted by Lunchboxx

Yeah, I was Amazed when I refreshed Animsuki and they had That up, its not there anymore but how did it get there in the first place?

It was an error.

Back on-topic now.

Final · 2004-05-22, 23:07

The OP made me want to vomit. I'm sorry but I don't like the broken english rap the only group that really has made it work is Zap Mamma. I'd prefer to just hear some Japanese rapping over the beats or just some lyrics like the ending.

that's my only complaint.

other then that the show banged. The whole mood was dope. Starting with "This show is fictional. However, there are some parts that portray actual history..." then it goes on to say, "Just shut your mouth and watch it." Mugen is hard, more then just a dumb thug, but being stupid works for him like this run on sentence does for me. Jin is old school, I don't need to say any more. Fuu is cute and who ever said it was right... This show reeks of Blade of the Immortal. but I like how dark and grimy the show is.

this is the first thing I typed but I saved it for last.

I think I'm gonna puke on the person that says, "I normally don't like hip hop." STFU most people don't know what real hip hop is. Too many people confuse Top 40 rap for Hip Hop. If you don't know who The Roots, Mos Def, Common, Gang Star, The Lox, Company Flow, Reflection Eternal and Pharohe Monch are then you definatly are confusing the two. I can't say I don't like rock because the only things I have to measure it up to is Creed, Poison and Metalica. The only real Hip Hop in the main stream right now is OutKast and maybe JayZ and Nas to lesser extent. [/rant]

Devin · 2004-05-22, 23:51

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Originally Posted by Final

The OP made me want to vomit. I'm sorry but I don't like the broken english rap the only group that really has made it work is Zap Mamma. I'd prefer to just hear some Japanese rapping over the beats or just some lyrics like the ending.

that's my only complaint.

other then that the show banged. The whole mood was dope. Starting with "This show is fictional. However, there are some parts that portray actual history..." then it goes on to say, "Just shut your mouth and watch it." Mugen is hard, more then just a dumb thug, but being stupid works for him like this run on sentence does for me. Jin is old school, I don't need to say any more. Fuu is cute and who ever said it was right... This show reeks of Blade of the Immortal. but I like how dark and grimy the show is.

this is the first thing I typed but I saved it for last.

I think I'm gonna puke on the person that says, "I normally don't like hip hop." STFU most people don't know what real hip hop is. Too many people confuse Top 40 rap for Hip Hop. If you don't know who The Roots, Mos Def, Common, Gang Star, The Lox, Company Flow, Reflection Eternal and Pharohe Monch are then you definatly are confusing the two. I can't say I don't like rock because the only things I have to measure it up to is Creed, Poison and Metalica. The only real Hip Hop in the main stream right now is OutKast and maybe JayZ and Nas to lesser extent. [/rant]

So critical of you, Final.

Well i agree that those rappers you mentioned are talented and they stay underground. Reflection Eternal is no more though, now there's just Talib Kewli, and DJ H-tek does his own thing now i think. To add a few more talented and underground rappers, Rass Kass, Cormega, Planet Asia, and X-raided.

Anyway, to not stray from the topci, i still liked the Hip Hop from Samurai Champloo. I mean, you don't hear many Asian rappers out there, except for JIN, who might make it big here in the U.S.

jennwenn · 2004-05-22, 23:57

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Originally Posted by Final

The OP made me want to vomit. I'm sorry but I don't like the broken english rap the only group that really has made it work is Zap Mamma. I'd prefer to just hear some Japanese rapping over the beats or just some lyrics like the ending.

that's my only complaint.

I didn't like the opening music either. But I have heard worse. EE Jump's Japanese pop rap thing. Ugh.

Quote:

other then that the show banged. The whole mood was dope. Starting with "This show is fictional. However, there are some parts that portray actual history..." then it goes on to say, "Just shut your mouth and watch it." Mugen is hard, more then just a dumb thug, but being stupid works for him like this run on sentence does for me. Jin is old school, I don't need to say any more. Fuu is cute and who ever said it was right... This show reeks of Blade of the Immortal. but I like how dark and grimy the show is.

Yep, and since the mangaka of Blade of the Immortal doesn't really want his work animated, this will have to do!

Quote:

this is the first thing I typed but I saved it for last.

I think I'm gonna puke on the person that says, "I normally don't like hip hop." STFU most people don't know what real hip hop is. Too many people confuse Top 40 rap for Hip Hop. If you don't know who The Roots, Mos Def, Common, Gang Star, The Lox, Company Flow, Reflection Eternal and Pharohe Monch are then you definatly are confusing the two. I can't say I don't like rock because the only things I have to measure it up to is Creed, Poison and Metalica. The only real Hip Hop in the main stream right now is OutKast and maybe JayZ and Nas to lesser extent. [/rant]

The fact that you know of those bands are what make you a true hip-hop fan. I don't care for it, so how would I know the obscure, non Billboard groups? I don't know much about hip-hop because it doesn't interest me. I agree that most famous artists aren't the actual artists but the "stars" who have publicity potential.

I don't like hip-hop or rap, but I still like Samurai Champloo. (Though I wouldn't get ahead of myself and say its an amazing work just yet. Right now the story is generic but with good visuals.) I don't really like or know much about jazz either, but I still enjoyed Cowboy Bebop.

SassyRobot · 2004-05-23, 00:02

Well I dont have much else to add since most things have already been mentioned...

The scratch thing was a neat transitition and didn't get TOO annoying since it wasn't used too much. I didn't mind it but i'm glad it wasn't over used.

I liked the art and thought it was stylish. I didn't think they were ugly, but i did notice the sometimes nasty teeth.

Oh and i'm not too sure about that flying squirrel thing either....

I watched the raw so i didn't really know what was being said, but i still enjoyed it. It seems pretty cool! i hope it doesn't start to slip ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by metachronism

For those of you wondering, "champloo" is an okinawan stir fry--probably hinting at the amalgamation of Edo-era Japan and the present-day Japan in the show. You'll notice that they intentionally mix modern slang with historical language of the era, and some of the people are dressed...eh... strangely

.

Mugen is from "Ry?ky?" which is the old name of Okinawa (actually, it's the name of the kingdom that existed there that was independent of Japan). That's why he's dressed funny (well, ok, it's a little exaggerated in the show) and his capricious attitude doesn't "fit in" with the rest of the Edo folks.

BTW, I love the caustic humor in this show

--meta

ah so that's what 'champloo' means i was wondering about that thanks for that info

2004-05-22, 20:06	Link #113
apr Pedestrian Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden	Personally I think the bestest part of the first episode is Fuu's face when she's called an idiot by one of the customers. Regarding the show, I think the music is brilliant (and I usually can't stand hip-hop), with a delightful ending theme, although I might wish they could spell "lyrics" properly. The animation is top-notch, very likely because someone who puts out Cowboy Bebop will get a budget the size of Jupiter, but the show is remarkably ugly. All characters were hit with the ugly-stick prior to release from the drawing board, which is rather interesting. Note the teeth especially. Storywise, it has yet to bloom. It was a clear character introduction episode, and my Japanese isn't all that fabulous just yet (I watched the raw). Fuu is a damsel in distress, Jin is a hero with skills, and Mugen is a punk -- it should become interesting, at least. In reply to the discussion on scratch cuts, I thought it was nice. I seem to recall it was used moderately, in situations when the story was either pulled back a bit, or when it jumped between two concurrent events. All in all, it's a big fat YAY! since I loved Cowboy Bebop and want to see more like it. __________________ ...in my humble opinion.

2004-05-22, 22:02	Link #114
Spooky-Electric Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003	There's a new sub out from a group called something. Last edited by NightWish; 2004-05-23 at 05:34.

2004-05-22, 11:32	Link #101
Slade Coordinated Insanity Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Between Good & Evil	Nice, this is just the kind of series I've been looking forward to. Stylish with plenty of action and comedy. Mugen and Jin rock equally . Mugen's almost got the Spike Spiegel goofyness while Jin has a cold and calculating(yet fair) demeaner, a nice contrast of personalities indeed. It'll be a blast seeing how they deal with each other. This series is so stylish it bloody bleeds(to be redundent) style- Definitely going to follow these series and pick up the DVD when it comes out... although I hope the animation quality doesn't drop from the first episode like it often does in many different anime series. Well, time will tell... if I had to review the first episode though from a scale of 10, I'd give it a shiny 10 .

2004-05-22, 12:29	Link #103
Youko Recca Breakdancing Samurai Join Date: Nov 2003	Why is that?

2004-05-22, 13:24	Link #104
silentpixel Champloo Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NYC Age: 40	no i meant i like what he made. lol i like your to. even though their both similar

2004-05-22, 14:42	Link #105
hunterx ore wa kanpeki da Join Date: Nov 2003	without the hiphop it would just be like another recycled samurai anime. I like how they took all that samurai stuff and added hiphop and all the jarring and mixing to it. I hope they stick to their take it or leave it style.

2004-05-22, 14:48	Link #107
jennwenn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: good 'ole US of A	I watched it again, this time not when I was doing something else at the same time and w/subs. I think I know where the story is headed now. I suspect Fuu's family was killed by a samurai/villain-type and she is hiring Mugen and Jin to track him down and kill him for revenge. This is very typical of samurai stories, like in Blade of the Immortal or Lone Wolf & Cub. (I'm getting SERIOUS Blade of the Immortal vibes.) But of course, I anticipate some Watanabe twists. I really want to watch more samurai flicks, there must be so many injokes here. For example, Fuu made fun of the guard's traditional shaved hairstyle (I don't know the name of it) as if she were speaking from the modern "how unfashionable" persepctive, and Mugen cut off the Addidas guy's (dyed punk blonde!) topknot, which is a huge sign of disrespect. I loved the scene where Fuu said she'd do anything and the guy's like "anything?! drool" I still don't know what to think about that flying squirel mascot thing. Uh, unneccesary? So Watanage has tackled jazz & space and is taking on hip-hop & samurai. Hip-hop still isn't my thing, but its a cool concept. I like how no character yet can be called a rehash of Spike, Ed, Faye, or Jet. The new characters are totally different. In fact, if I didn't already know I'd probably not recognize that this series was from the director of Cowboy Bebop. I'm so glad that many more samurai/ninja/historical Japan anime are coming out now. I love this genre to death! Who licensed this again?

2004-05-22, 14:59	Link #108
Youko Recca Breakdancing Samurai Join Date: Nov 2003	Geneon is getting this bad boy.

2004-05-22, 16:29	Link #111
wnkryo HainShodan Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: new york city	This series is SUPER hot. ------WoW A little thing like a license can't stop "people" from seeing this one Edit: Just want to add that, if those who didn't notice, Zoro from One Piece voices Mugen. I guess he was made for a swordsmen voice ^^

2004-05-22, 18:05	Link #112
metachronism Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	For those of you wondering, "champloo" is an okinawan stir fry--probably hinting at the amalgamation of Edo-era Japan and the present-day Japan in the show. You'll notice that they intentionally mix modern slang with historical language of the era, and some of the people are dressed...eh... strangely . Mugen is from "Ryūkyū" which is the old name of Okinawa (actually, it's the name of the kingdom that existed there that was independent of Japan). That's why he's dressed funny (well, ok, it's a little exaggerated in the show) and his capricious attitude doesn't "fit in" with the rest of the Edo folks. BTW, I love the caustic humor in this show --meta

2004-05-22, 23:07	Link #117
Final Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Squaresville Age: 44	The OP made me want to vomit. I'm sorry but I don't like the broken english rap the only group that really has made it work is Zap Mamma. I'd prefer to just hear some Japanese rapping over the beats or just some lyrics like the ending. that's my only complaint. other then that the show banged. The whole mood was dope. Starting with "This show is fictional. However, there are some parts that portray actual history..." then it goes on to say, "Just shut your mouth and watch it." Mugen is hard, more then just a dumb thug, but being stupid works for him like this run on sentence does for me. Jin is old school, I don't need to say any more. Fuu is cute and who ever said it was right... This show reeks of Blade of the Immortal. but I like how dark and grimy the show is. this is the first thing I typed but I saved it for last. I think I'm gonna puke on the person that says, "I normally don't like hip hop." STFU most people don't know what real hip hop is. Too many people confuse Top 40 rap for Hip Hop. If you don't know who The Roots, Mos Def, Common, Gang Star, The Lox, Company Flow, Reflection Eternal and Pharohe Monch are then you definatly are confusing the two. I can't say I don't like rock because the only things I have to measure it up to is Creed, Poison and Metalica. The only real Hip Hop in the main stream right now is OutKast and maybe JayZ and Nas to lesser extent. [/rant]